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I am moving from PC to console and have a fast question. (not about characters)
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Mystrius_Archaion✭✭✭✭✭
✭Correct, lag has nothing to do with FPS as I stated earlier.
But, you did say wireless in cyrodiil wouldn't work when you said "good luck in cyrodiil".
Cyrodiil's problem is not the internet connection type. It overtaxes the servers even, but the main problem there is FPS.
I remember gaming on City of Heroes in the "Rikti Warzone" "raiding the mothership" with the zone limit of 50 players with everyone having permanent and temp pets from 1-12 of them each and all sorts of particle effects all bunched up in one small area.(please please look it up on Youtube. It was EPIC! It would also show you what I mean.)
Needless to say, it was a slideshow because FPS was horrible, but it worked until sometimes we killed the server and everyone got booted.
That was back on the 256kbps connection I had to game on years ago.
Why does ESO not even work that well? I have no problem with my connection like I used to. City of Heroes was arguably using a lot more of my bandwidth during those times as well as overtaxing my graphics card at the time.
Our biggest problem is not connection type.Edited by Mystrius_Archaion on August 28, 2017 12:24AM1 -
Aurielle✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Mystrius_Archaion wrote: »I concede that I made a boo-boo by conflating FPS with connection type, but the general consensus has long been that wired > wireless on console as far as connection stability goes.
"has long been"
That's the problem. Everyone pulls out old statistics when they try to say wired is better than wireless.
I'll give you the real honest reasons that wired is better sometimes:
1) Distance to the wireless router and objects between the pc and router are often interfering if people do not understand how to place the modem and router.
I actually work for a company that has internet service and often has techs install the modem at "one end of the house" due to it being where the cord comes in and nobody wanting to run wires through their house. Most houses are not pre-wired for internet.
2) Interference from other devices on the 2.4Ghz radio band.
This is minimized if you use 5Ghz band and if you don't have multiple other wireless devices running at the same time. Why do we need wireless control of all our lights and thermostat to our router when we could wire the tech to the modem or just physically adjust things while at home either coming or going?
That is probably the issue you were having. Too much interference causing spikes in data loss.
Re: your first point, the consoles were right next to the modem, so distance wasn't a factor. Re: your second point, the average person who does not work in the tech industry or does not tinker with PCs/networking as a hobby almost certainly does not know this. It's a moot point, either way -- rather than learn how to tap into different wireless bands and eliminate interference to see if that resolves the problem I previously had when trying to play online games over wireless, I can simply wire my PS4 directly into my modem and enjoy a smooth gaming experience.
This whole argument stemmed from the usual PC master race-types belittling the OP for wanting to switch to a "sub-par" gaming system to play ESO. The average person does not know how to build a gaming computer from scratch for pennies, much as the average person isn't going to mess around with wireless bands. Why can we not have a conversation in these forums about switching to console WITHOUT console-versus-PC snarkiness?1 -
Mystrius_Archaion✭✭✭✭✭
✭Mystrius_Archaion wrote: »I concede that I made a boo-boo by conflating FPS with connection type, but the general consensus has long been that wired > wireless on console as far as connection stability goes.
"has long been"
That's the problem. Everyone pulls out old statistics when they try to say wired is better than wireless.
I'll give you the real honest reasons that wired is better sometimes:
1) Distance to the wireless router and objects between the pc and router are often interfering if people do not understand how to place the modem and router.
I actually work for a company that has internet service and often has techs install the modem at "one end of the house" due to it being where the cord comes in and nobody wanting to run wires through their house. Most houses are not pre-wired for internet.
2) Interference from other devices on the 2.4Ghz radio band.
This is minimized if you use 5Ghz band and if you don't have multiple other wireless devices running at the same time. Why do we need wireless control of all our lights and thermostat to our router when we could wire the tech to the modem or just physically adjust things while at home either coming or going?
That is probably the issue you were having. Too much interference causing spikes in data loss.
Re: your first point, the consoles were right next to the modem, so distance wasn't a factor. Re: your second point, the average person who does not work in the tech industry or does not tinker with PCs/networking as a hobby almost certainly does not know this. It's a moot point, either way -- rather than learn how to tap into different wireless bands and eliminate interference to see if that resolves the problem I previously had when trying to play online games over wireless, I can simply wire my PS4 directly into my modem and enjoy a smooth gaming experience.
This whole argument stemmed from the usual PC master race-types belittling the OP for wanting to switch to a "sub-par" gaming system to play ESO. The average person does not know how to build a gaming computer from scratch for pennies, much as the average person isn't going to mess around with wireless bands. Why can we not have a conversation in these forums about switching to console WITHOUT console-versus-PC snarkiness?
My point was just to prove that none of the points matter or were even true. People can game just fine on wireless or console, with certain caveats, but the main thing they all have to ask is "why do I want to do this?".
The thread starter needs to evaluate why they are doing it. If they are doing it for friends then they better be worth the increased cost and stay playing with them for a while, if you ask me. If not for friends then I have no idea why switching would be worthwhile, as most people are questioning.Edited by Mystrius_Archaion on August 28, 2017 12:59AM0 -
LadyLethalla✭✭✭✭✭
✭To go off on a tangent here... does anyone know how to restrict how much bandwidth an iPhone uses? My eldest is always complaining that the youngest's phone is taking up all the bandwidth and causing him to have really high ping... which affects my ESO gameplay only sometimes.
Edit: he's checking on the router login.
Edited by LadyLethalla on August 28, 2017 4:13AMx-TallyCat-x // PC EU DC - For the Covenant! // ESO Platinum trophy - 16th May 2017.
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MakoFore✭✭✭✭✭
✭man i d find it so hard to play an mmo on a conosle- no shortcuts, chat, the menus, etc- its all so much harder- but go for it man- from what i ve seen- the community seems to be active there too0 -
Aurielle✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Mystrius_Archaion wrote: »Mystrius_Archaion wrote: »I concede that I made a boo-boo by conflating FPS with connection type, but the general consensus has long been that wired > wireless on console as far as connection stability goes.
"has long been"
That's the problem. Everyone pulls out old statistics when they try to say wired is better than wireless.
I'll give you the real honest reasons that wired is better sometimes:
1) Distance to the wireless router and objects between the pc and router are often interfering if people do not understand how to place the modem and router.
I actually work for a company that has internet service and often has techs install the modem at "one end of the house" due to it being where the cord comes in and nobody wanting to run wires through their house. Most houses are not pre-wired for internet.
2) Interference from other devices on the 2.4Ghz radio band.
This is minimized if you use 5Ghz band and if you don't have multiple other wireless devices running at the same time. Why do we need wireless control of all our lights and thermostat to our router when we could wire the tech to the modem or just physically adjust things while at home either coming or going?
That is probably the issue you were having. Too much interference causing spikes in data loss.
Re: your first point, the consoles were right next to the modem, so distance wasn't a factor. Re: your second point, the average person who does not work in the tech industry or does not tinker with PCs/networking as a hobby almost certainly does not know this. It's a moot point, either way -- rather than learn how to tap into different wireless bands and eliminate interference to see if that resolves the problem I previously had when trying to play online games over wireless, I can simply wire my PS4 directly into my modem and enjoy a smooth gaming experience.
This whole argument stemmed from the usual PC master race-types belittling the OP for wanting to switch to a "sub-par" gaming system to play ESO. The average person does not know how to build a gaming computer from scratch for pennies, much as the average person isn't going to mess around with wireless bands. Why can we not have a conversation in these forums about switching to console WITHOUT console-versus-PC snarkiness?
The thread starter needs to evaluate why they are doing it. If they are doing it for friends then they better be worth the increased cost and stay playing with them for a while, if you ask me. If not for friends then I have no idea why switching would be worthwhile, as most people are questioning.
Assuming the OP is looking at a PS4 or XB1 and not a Steam console (I have no idea if Steam PC purchases carry over to the console), then it's entirely possible that the OP has a bad PC and wants to switch for the graphical/performance upgrade. The base game is on sale on PS4 at the moment for something ridiculous like CDN $13. If you've been ESO plus from the beginning, there's no need to repurchase DLCs on console. Morrowind would have to be repurchased, but that's the only significant drawback I see here, besides the loss of progress. Again, PC gaming is expensive if you don't know how to build a computer. Before I made the switch to PS4, I looked at gaming PCs in multiple physical retail locations as well as online stores, and they were all exhorbitantly priced. Even when you factor in the cost of PS+ or Xbox Live, a $300 console is still going to be cheaper than a pre-built non-refurbished PC that can play this game at max settings. And while console admittedly can't achieve ESO ultra PC settings, the graphical quality is still VERY good for the price. And don't forget console-exclusive titles. If I hadn't made the switch, I never would have been able to play stuff like Uncharted 4 or Horizon Zero Dawn: amazing, visually-stunning games.
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Deheart✭✭✭You will not be MOVING to console, what you will be doing is starting a brand new clean no DLC, No Character copy or transfer, no copy over anything from pc. Nothing you paid for on pc.
ESO PC and ESO Xbox and ESO PS4 are 3 separate games with no connection between them at all.
As a casual player I was satisfied that at one point I had a char max level and near max crafting with almost all motifs and I pretty much lost interest. Then ESO discovered DLC's and now my main is just a wanabe and I am happily pulled back into the game.0 -
TequilaFire✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I play both PC and PS4 and enjoy both.
The number 1 difference for me is the console is way easier to socialize on because I can change between up to 5 built in different guild voice chats instantly without having to worry about which third party voice program to use with associated passwords, links, etc.
My PS4 uses the same 40" 4K monitor, not TV, my PC does and uses the same Bose sound system.
I also run a 1TB SSD in the PS4 along with a Black Widow keyboard.
Another advantage is I don't have to put up with Window's 10 updates all the time. lol
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DjMuscleboy02✭✭✭✭✭My notebook computer runs eso better than my xbox, don't move to console.Brodor - PC NA - ESO's only pure bodybuilding guild
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Aurielle✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭DjMuscleboy02 wrote: »My notebook computer runs eso better than my xbox, don't move to console.
Can't speak for XBox, but my laptop definitely doesn't run ESO better than my PS4. If you don't know what system the OP is running the game on, then it's probably not fair to dissuade him/her from going the console route. I'm very happy with my PS4, and am so glad that I didn't waste money on a new gaming PC a few months back when I was debating whether or not to switch to console.0 -
Honghua✭✭✭DjMuscleboy02 wrote: »My notebook computer runs eso better than my xbox, don't move to console.
Can't speak for XBox, but my laptop definitely doesn't run ESO better than my PS4. If you don't know what system the OP is running the game on, then it's probably not fair to dissuade him/her from going the console route. I'm very happy with my PS4, and am so glad that I didn't waste money on a new gaming PC a few months back when I was debating whether or not to switch to console.
Its a gaming laptop with gtx 980m, that i bought 2 years ago and oh man what a huge mistake it is now.
Since nvidia LOVES to downgrade their graphic cards, to obtain constant 60 frames per second i have to downgrade my resolution to 700p this is a freaking joke, so yeah as hell i have a reason to switch, since pcs are no longer a "cheaper" option because gpus prices jumped up by bitcoin miners, i bought my ps4 pro with a game and 12 month psn for 380 pounds, thats like 3 or 4 times cheaper that a decent pc that could last for years.
And dont even let me start to talk about winshit 10 operating system, because it is a joke. After one update i made in the past, the game is locked at 60 fps and the fps peaks are more frequent than ever, when 1 year ago i was running 100 fps at max settings in eso, now its not possible even after reinstalling the drivers, game, or even the windows itself, cleaning it up, its just got worse.
So yea, *** that are buying each year new parts to their pc are trying to explain how this gaming experience on pc that downgrades itself each year on the same parts is super much better and cheaper, what a joke.
I bought ps4 pro along with 4k resolution, 50 inch hdr 10bit tv, and the gaming experience on eso is incredible with higher resolution and better colors, i definitely going to stay on console for longer now. Dont have to worry about drivers, parts, dont have to worry about anything, since the company and developers has it under control and i am here only to enjoy the game.
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eso_lags✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Idk about ps4 but i play on xbox and have played on pc. Xbox is awful to play on. Poorly maintained, unplayable lag.. sucks we can transfer accounts i would be running to pc. But if you dont have a pc to run it on i guess u have to.0 -
Takes-No-Prisoner✭✭✭✭✭
✭DjMuscleboy02 wrote: »My notebook computer runs eso better than my xbox, don't move to console.
Can't speak for XBox, but my laptop definitely doesn't run ESO better than my PS4. If you don't know what system the OP is running the game on, then it's probably not fair to dissuade him/her from going the console route. I'm very happy with my PS4, and am so glad that I didn't waste money on a new gaming PC a few months back when I was debating whether or not to switch to console.
Its a gaming laptop with gtx 980m, that i bought 2 years ago and oh man what a huge mistake it is now.
Since nvidia LOVES to downgrade their graphic cards, to obtain constant 60 frames per second i have to downgrade my resolution to 700p this is a freaking joke, so yeah as hell i have a reason to switch, since pcs are no longer a "cheaper" option because gpus prices jumped up by bitcoin miners, i bought my ps4 pro with a game and 12 month psn for 380 pounds, thats like 3 or 4 times cheaper that a decent pc that could last for years.
And dont even let me start to talk about winshit 10 operating system, because it is a joke. After one update i made in the past, the game is locked at 60 fps and the fps peaks are more frequent than ever, when 1 year ago i was running 100 fps at max settings in eso, now its not possible even after reinstalling the drivers, game, or even the windows itself, cleaning it up, its just got worse.
So yea, *** that are buying each year new parts to their pc are trying to explain how this gaming experience on pc that downgrades itself each year on the same parts is super much better and cheaper, what a joke.
I bought ps4 pro along with 4k resolution, 50 inch hdr 10bit tv, and the gaming experience on eso is incredible with higher resolution and better colors, i definitely going to stay on console for longer now. Dont have to worry about drivers, parts, dont have to worry about anything, since the company and developers has it under control and i am here only to enjoy the game.
This is why I moved from PC to PS4. I understand this pain. My 3rd generation PS4 has been good to me for as long as I played ESO on it.
You did get a PS4 pro with a big hard drive right? I'm up to 350gigs on my 1TB Seagate I have installed on mine. So that extra space is worth it.0 -
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✭I can understand why you'd want to switch to console, but I'm not sure if I could live without the mods anymore.Guide to making $$$ in Tamriel: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/370618/guide-to-making-gold-in-eso/p1?new=1
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Aurielle✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭DjMuscleboy02 wrote: »My notebook computer runs eso better than my xbox, don't move to console.
Can't speak for XBox, but my laptop definitely doesn't run ESO better than my PS4. If you don't know what system the OP is running the game on, then it's probably not fair to dissuade him/her from going the console route. I'm very happy with my PS4, and am so glad that I didn't waste money on a new gaming PC a few months back when I was debating whether or not to switch to console.
Its a gaming laptop with gtx 980m, that i bought 2 years ago and oh man what a huge mistake it is now.
Since nvidia LOVES to downgrade their graphic cards, to obtain constant 60 frames per second i have to downgrade my resolution to 700p this is a freaking joke, so yeah as hell i have a reason to switch, since pcs are no longer a "cheaper" option because gpus prices jumped up by bitcoin miners, i bought my ps4 pro with a game and 12 month psn for 380 pounds, thats like 3 or 4 times cheaper that a decent pc that could last for years.
And dont even let me start to talk about winshit 10 operating system, because it is a joke. After one update i made in the past, the game is locked at 60 fps and the fps peaks are more frequent than ever, when 1 year ago i was running 100 fps at max settings in eso, now its not possible even after reinstalling the drivers, game, or even the windows itself, cleaning it up, its just got worse.
So yea, *** that are buying each year new parts to their pc are trying to explain how this gaming experience on pc that downgrades itself each year on the same parts is super much better and cheaper, what a joke.
I bought ps4 pro along with 4k resolution, 50 inch hdr 10bit tv, and the gaming experience on eso is incredible with higher resolution and better colors, i definitely going to stay on console for longer now. Dont have to worry about drivers, parts, dont have to worry about anything, since the company and developers has it under control and i am here only to enjoy the game.
Welcome to PS4! And yeah, it's pretty great to be able to walk into a shop and buy an excellent, inexpensive gaming system that you DON'T have to upgrade every year or two, isn't it? Also, if you really want to laugh at the PC master race naysayers who think that console graphics are a joke, do yourself a favour and pick up Horizon Zero Dawn.0 -
danno8✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭DjMuscleboy02 wrote: »My notebook computer runs eso better than my xbox, don't move to console.
Can't speak for XBox, but my laptop definitely doesn't run ESO better than my PS4. If you don't know what system the OP is running the game on, then it's probably not fair to dissuade him/her from going the console route. I'm very happy with my PS4, and am so glad that I didn't waste money on a new gaming PC a few months back when I was debating whether or not to switch to console.
Its a gaming laptop with gtx 980m, that i bought 2 years ago and oh man what a huge mistake it is now.
Since nvidia LOVES to downgrade their graphic cards, to obtain constant 60 frames per second i have to downgrade my resolution to 700p this is a freaking joke, so yeah as hell i have a reason to switch, since pcs are no longer a "cheaper" option because gpus prices jumped up by bitcoin miners, i bought my ps4 pro with a game and 12 month psn for 380 pounds, thats like 3 or 4 times cheaper that a decent pc that could last for years.
And dont even let me start to talk about winshit 10 operating system, because it is a joke. After one update i made in the past, the game is locked at 60 fps and the fps peaks are more frequent than ever, when 1 year ago i was running 100 fps at max settings in eso, now its not possible even after reinstalling the drivers, game, or even the windows itself, cleaning it up, its just got worse.
So yea, *** that are buying each year new parts to their pc are trying to explain how this gaming experience on pc that downgrades itself each year on the same parts is super much better and cheaper, what a joke.
I bought ps4 pro along with 4k resolution, 50 inch hdr 10bit tv, and the gaming experience on eso is incredible with higher resolution and better colors, i definitely going to stay on console for longer now. Dont have to worry about drivers, parts, dont have to worry about anything, since the company and developers has it under control and i am here only to enjoy the game.
Welcome to PS4! And yeah, it's pretty great to be able to walk into a shop and buy an excellent, inexpensive gaming system that you DON'T have to upgrade every year or two, isn't it? Also, if you really want to laugh at the PC master race naysayers who think that console graphics are a joke, do yourself a favour and pick up Horizon Zero Dawn.
You don't have to upgrade your PC every year or two either. But you have the option to if you want.
I usually upgrade my GFX card ($300) every few years, and my CPU (plus motherboard) ($500) every 4-5. The end result is a few hundred bucks more than buying a new console every 4-5 years. But I think you get a better gameplay experience. I also don't have to pay the extra $50-$120 each year for PSN/XBOX live, and games are generally $10-$20 cheaper too.
All in all, the cost is a wash, so just get whatever platform you prefer.
The guy you quoted bought a gaming laptop, which is why he is having problems imo. Gaming laptops are notorious for heating problems.
I also have no idea what 4*380 pounds = 1520 pounds ~$2000 dollar PC equivalent he is talking about, but I guarantee you, a $2000 PC would have phenomenal specs that even the most die-hard console player would have to acknowledge the visual fidelity increase, lol.0 -
Takes-No-Prisoner✭✭✭✭✭
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You don't have to, true, but I understand what the OP is saying. I got a update from Microsoft for my operating system and it broke my PC ESO launcher. So I completely get where he is coming from. He wants freedom of choice for his PC specs, but feels other 3rd party companies, through their updates, are holding back his PC. And he's tried of having to deal with it. There is a ring of truth to what he's saying.DjMuscleboy02 wrote: »My notebook computer runs eso better than my xbox, don't move to console.
Can't speak for XBox, but my laptop definitely doesn't run ESO better than my PS4. If you don't know what system the OP is running the game on, then it's probably not fair to dissuade him/her from going the console route. I'm very happy with my PS4, and am so glad that I didn't waste money on a new gaming PC a few months back when I was debating whether or not to switch to console.
Its a gaming laptop with gtx 980m, that i bought 2 years ago and oh man what a huge mistake it is now.
Since nvidia LOVES to downgrade their graphic cards, to obtain constant 60 frames per second i have to downgrade my resolution to 700p this is a freaking joke, so yeah as hell i have a reason to switch, since pcs are no longer a "cheaper" option because gpus prices jumped up by bitcoin miners, i bought my ps4 pro with a game and 12 month psn for 380 pounds, thats like 3 or 4 times cheaper that a decent pc that could last for years.
And dont even let me start to talk about winshit 10 operating system, because it is a joke. After one update i made in the past, the game is locked at 60 fps and the fps peaks are more frequent than ever, when 1 year ago i was running 100 fps at max settings in eso, now its not possible even after reinstalling the drivers, game, or even the windows itself, cleaning it up, its just got worse.
So yea, *** that are buying each year new parts to their pc are trying to explain how this gaming experience on pc that downgrades itself each year on the same parts is super much better and cheaper, what a joke.
I bought ps4 pro along with 4k resolution, 50 inch hdr 10bit tv, and the gaming experience on eso is incredible with higher resolution and better colors, i definitely going to stay on console for longer now. Dont have to worry about drivers, parts, dont have to worry about anything, since the company and developers has it under control and i am here only to enjoy the game.
Welcome to PS4! And yeah, it's pretty great to be able to walk into a shop and buy an excellent, inexpensive gaming system that you DON'T have to upgrade every year or two, isn't it? Also, if you really want to laugh at the PC master race naysayers who think that console graphics are a joke, do yourself a favour and pick up Horizon Zero Dawn.
You don't have to upgrade your PC every year or two either. But you have the option to if you want.
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Kalante✭✭✭✭✭
✭Better off on PC average console FPS is 15-20
In Cyrodiil and trials, maybe. Everywhere else, I get a steady 25-30 FPS on PS4 NA with some minor stuttering in major cities during prime time. If you get an average of 15-20 FPS on console in the vast majority of the game content, then you're probably playing over a garbage wireless connection. Playing over a wired fiber connection makes a big difference.
Such BS lmao. This game runs like garbage no matter if you have fiber internet. PS4 pro might have less issues since it's more "powerful" but you did not even mentioned that.Edited by Kalante on August 29, 2017 8:00PM0 -
Aurielle✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭DjMuscleboy02 wrote: »My notebook computer runs eso better than my xbox, don't move to console.
Can't speak for XBox, but my laptop definitely doesn't run ESO better than my PS4. If you don't know what system the OP is running the game on, then it's probably not fair to dissuade him/her from going the console route. I'm very happy with my PS4, and am so glad that I didn't waste money on a new gaming PC a few months back when I was debating whether or not to switch to console.
Its a gaming laptop with gtx 980m, that i bought 2 years ago and oh man what a huge mistake it is now.
Since nvidia LOVES to downgrade their graphic cards, to obtain constant 60 frames per second i have to downgrade my resolution to 700p this is a freaking joke, so yeah as hell i have a reason to switch, since pcs are no longer a "cheaper" option because gpus prices jumped up by bitcoin miners, i bought my ps4 pro with a game and 12 month psn for 380 pounds, thats like 3 or 4 times cheaper that a decent pc that could last for years.
And dont even let me start to talk about winshit 10 operating system, because it is a joke. After one update i made in the past, the game is locked at 60 fps and the fps peaks are more frequent than ever, when 1 year ago i was running 100 fps at max settings in eso, now its not possible even after reinstalling the drivers, game, or even the windows itself, cleaning it up, its just got worse.
So yea, *** that are buying each year new parts to their pc are trying to explain how this gaming experience on pc that downgrades itself each year on the same parts is super much better and cheaper, what a joke.
I bought ps4 pro along with 4k resolution, 50 inch hdr 10bit tv, and the gaming experience on eso is incredible with higher resolution and better colors, i definitely going to stay on console for longer now. Dont have to worry about drivers, parts, dont have to worry about anything, since the company and developers has it under control and i am here only to enjoy the game.
Welcome to PS4! And yeah, it's pretty great to be able to walk into a shop and buy an excellent, inexpensive gaming system that you DON'T have to upgrade every year or two, isn't it? Also, if you really want to laugh at the PC master race naysayers who think that console graphics are a joke, do yourself a favour and pick up Horizon Zero Dawn.
You don't have to upgrade your PC every year or two either. But you have the option to if you want.
I usually upgrade my GFX card ($300) every few years, and my CPU (plus motherboard) ($500) every 4-5. The end result is a few hundred bucks more than buying a new console every 4-5 years. But I think you get a better gameplay experience. I also don't have to pay the extra $50-$120 each year for PSN/XBOX live, and games are generally $10-$20 cheaper too.
All in all, the cost is a wash, so just get whatever platform you prefer.
The guy you quoted bought a gaming laptop, which is why he is having problems imo. Gaming laptops are notorious for heating problems.
I also have no idea what 4*380 pounds = 1520 pounds ~$2000 dollar PC equivalent he is talking about, but I guarantee you, a $2000 PC would have phenomenal specs that even the most die-hard console player would have to acknowledge the visual fidelity increase, lol.
You're not factoring in the initial cost of your PC. If you don't know how to build a PC from scratch (I certainly don't, and I can't afford to potentially screw it up by following YouTube videos), a pre-built gaming desktop purchased in Canada will easily set you back $1000-$2000. For CDN $350, I have a fantastic gaming system that I do not have to upgrade even once -- until the next gaming system comes out (which, in Playstation's case, likely won't be until 2019/2020). Console generations typically last around 6 years or more. Trying to convince the average gamer that PC gaming and console gaming are on par, cost-wise, is simply disingenuous -- yes, even with PS Plus/Xbox Live factored into the equation.0 -
Aurielle✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Better off on PC average console FPS is 15-20
In Cyrodiil and trials, maybe. Everywhere else, I get a steady 25-30 FPS on PS4 NA with some minor stuttering in major cities during prime time. If you get an average of 15-20 FPS on console in the vast majority of the game content, then you're probably playing over a garbage wireless connection. Playing over a wired fiber connection makes a big difference.
Such BS lmao. This game runs like garbage no matter if you have fiber internet. PS4 pro might have less issues since it's more "powerful" but you did not even mentioned that.
LOL, no BS. Currently enjoying 30 FPS with next to zero lag on a standard PS4 while running Auridon dolmens on an alt I'm levelling up. As expected, ZOS's removal of ground-based AOE visual effects is proving helpful in crowded areas.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭If you don't know how to build a PC from scratch (I certainly don't, and I can't afford to potentially screw it up by following YouTube videos)...
Yes, there is some effort involved. And it's not for everyone.
But disregarding the facts of the cost of playing on console with PSN or XBOX Live, which is at least $250 and up to $620 every 5 years and saying that it doesn't matter simply tells me you are not willing to listen.
Besides I did say that PC probably ends up costing more, but the fellow you quoted makes it sound like PC will cost you several thousand dollars compared to just a few bucks for a console.
Now THAT is disingenuous.Edited by danno8 on August 30, 2017 1:30AM0 -
Aurielle✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭If you don't know how to build a PC from scratch (I certainly don't, and I can't afford to potentially screw it up by following YouTube videos)...
Yes, there is some effort involved. And it's not for everyone.
But disregarding the facts of the cost of playing on console with PSN or XBOX Live, which is at least $250 and up to $620 every 5 years and saying that it doesn't matter simply tells me you are not willing to listen.
Besides I did say that PC probably ends up costing more, but the fellow you quoted makes it sound like PC will cost you several thousand dollars compared to just a few bucks for a console.
Now THAT is disingenuous.
$250 to play multiplayer games on PS4 over five years is negligible when you factor in the base cost of a pre-built gaming PC. The launch cost of the PS4 in Canada was $450. Assuming you have no technical issues with the console and you bought it at launch when it was more expensive, that's still significantly cheaper over five years than the cheapest lower end pre-built gaming PCs in the $900-$1000 range (which, if you check out the specs and read the reviews, often contain outdated hardware and don't even play games all that well -- you read lots of comments on the lines of "plays games well on med-high, not ultra"). Then take into consideration that a lot of pre-built gaming PCs often have garbage PSUs. To ensure you don't fry your expensive investment, you then have to buy a new PSU that can actually handle gaming and either pay someone to install it for you, or take the risk and do it yourself. Pre-built PC cases often don't have enough room, as well (as I learned the hard way when I tried to upgrade the graphics card on an old gaming desktop I had a few years back), so it's sometimes not even possible to do the upgrades you want to do -- unless, of course, you build from scratch, which a lot of people simply do not know how to do.
A PS4, on the other hand, is a hassle-free, inexpensive purchase that runs most games extremely well. It's a level playing field, too, so you don't have to worry about being outclassed by other players simply because they can afford better hardware than you can. Yup, after switching to console from PC, it would take one hell of an argument to convince me that PC gaming is worth the costs involved relative to console gaming.
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