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LOL Sharpened trait nerf?

Chrysa1is
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They just have to keep making our builds weaker and weaker don't they? So much for progression :)

Haven't played for a while and came back to read the patch notes, and I LOL'd

What does everyone else think? What ridiculous patch note makes you laugh the most?
  • Danksta
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    Sharpened was overpowered af and I welcomed the long overdue nerf.
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  • apostate9
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    ^
  • AngryOldMan
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    I think sharpened was a little bit too powerfull compared to other traits. That made everyone run sharpened. Now we maybe see some variation in builds, not everyone running the same. I get why people who spent time farming sharpened maybe a bit frustrated, but overall i think it was a good balancing on last patch
  • Takes-No-Prisoner
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    Danksta wrote: »
    Sharpened was overpowered af and I welcomed the long overdue nerf.
    apostate9 wrote: »
    ^

    ^

    I am all for making the other traits viable options.
  • Chrysa1is
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    At least its only with 2h. DW still adds up to the 5160 penetration.
  • Eiagra
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    I only ever used Precise. *shrug* I only recently got to try Sharpened after the nerf because the set I wanted to use (Rattlecage) and the drop I was getting (Omen's Edge) finally twinned up so I had matching blades. I wasn't unhappy with the result.
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  • Danksta
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    Chrysa1is wrote: »
    At least its only with 2h. DW still adds up to the 5160 penetration.

    It's either a bug or you're mistaken.
    BawKinTackWarDs PS4/NA

  • Betsararie
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    Sharpened was merely the best trait and the one that people spent a lot of time farming.

    Nerfing it has only achieved one thing- increased diversity of weapon traits which is a completely worthless thing.

    All that matters is having the best weapon, not whether or not it's 'diverse'.

    Basically the change was done to appeal to casuals so they don't have to spend as much time farming weapons.
  • sevomd69
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    Chrysa1is wrote: »
    At least its only with 2h. DW still adds up to the 5160 penetration.
    I don't think it does...
  • Chrysa1is
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    sevomd69 wrote: »
    Chrysa1is wrote: »
    At least its only with 2h. DW still adds up to the 5160 penetration.
    I don't think it does...

    I have 2 sharp daggers. each dagger has 2580 penetration. 2580 + 2580 adds up to 5160.
  • Chrysa1is
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    No one is going to choose another trait to be 'diverse'. People want to do as much damage as they can so they will keep using sharpened.
  • Betsararie
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    Chrysa1is wrote: »
    No one is going to choose another trait to be 'diverse'. People want to do as much damage as they can so they will keep using sharpened.

    There are plenty of instances where sharpened is no longer BiS, or maybe you haven't done any research at all
  • ApexSwoledier81
    Chrysa1is wrote: »
    sevomd69 wrote: »
    Chrysa1is wrote: »
    At least its only with 2h. DW still adds up to the 5160 penetration.
    I don't think it does...

    I have 2 sharp daggers. each dagger has 2580 penetration. 2580 + 2580 adds up to 5160.

    You must be on console, the patch hasn't dropped for us yet. It most certainly doesn't after HOTR tomorrow.
  • Betsararie
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    Chrysa1is wrote: »
    sevomd69 wrote: »
    Chrysa1is wrote: »
    At least its only with 2h. DW still adds up to the 5160 penetration.
    I don't think it does...

    I have 2 sharp daggers. each dagger has 2580 penetration. 2580 + 2580 adds up to 5160.

    You must be on console, the patch hasn't dropped for us yet. It most certainly doesn't after HOTR tomorrow.

    It's clear he isn't at all educated on the subject he's discussing.

    It's okay, dude, read some guides or something and you'll get caught up. :)
  • Chrysa1is
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    Blanco wrote: »
    Chrysa1is wrote: »
    sevomd69 wrote: »
    Chrysa1is wrote: »
    At least its only with 2h. DW still adds up to the 5160 penetration.
    I don't think it does...

    I have 2 sharp daggers. each dagger has 2580 penetration. 2580 + 2580 adds up to 5160.

    You must be on console, the patch hasn't dropped for us yet. It most certainly doesn't after HOTR tomorrow.

    It's clear he isn't at all educated on the subject he's discussing.

    It's okay, dude, read some guides or something and you'll get caught up. :)

    Don't patronise me. I read the PC patch notes, and I'm assuming the majority of the notes (such as the traits) will be the same on console too.
  • Chrysa1is
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    Chrysa1is wrote: »
    sevomd69 wrote: »
    Chrysa1is wrote: »
    At least its only with 2h. DW still adds up to the 5160 penetration.
    I don't think it does...

    I have 2 sharp daggers. each dagger has 2580 penetration. 2580 + 2580 adds up to 5160.

    You must be on console, the patch hasn't dropped for us yet. It most certainly doesn't after HOTR tomorrow.

    yes it hasn't dropped yet, but that is what I read in the patch notes. No mention of individual sharpened trait weapons being nerfed, only 2h.
  • ak_pvp
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    Sharpened wasn't as overpowered as some claim. Many were using precise because of overpen, sharp did squat against shields too. 3.5/4k wouldve been a better number.
    MagDK main. PC/EU @AK-ESO
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  • danno8
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    Chrysa1is wrote: »
    Chrysa1is wrote: »
    sevomd69 wrote: »
    Chrysa1is wrote: »
    At least its only with 2h. DW still adds up to the 5160 penetration.
    I don't think it does...

    I have 2 sharp daggers. each dagger has 2580 penetration. 2580 + 2580 adds up to 5160.

    You must be on console, the patch hasn't dropped for us yet. It most certainly doesn't after HOTR tomorrow.

    yes it hasn't dropped yet, but that is what I read in the patch notes. No mention of individual sharpened trait weapons being nerfed, only 2h.

    They list the values for 2 handed gold quality items, and state that fact so they don't have to list the 50% value for 1H items as well.

    You just misinterpreted.
  • FriedEggSandwich
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    Sharpened wasn't great for diversity. But on the other hand nerfing it is an unmitigated buff to heavy armour in pvp. I feel like buffing other traits would have been better. But zos are feeling nerfy lately.
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  • danno8
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    ak_pvp wrote: »
    Sharpened wasn't as overpowered as some claim. Many were using precise because of overpen, sharp did squat against shields too. 3.5/4k wouldve been a better number.

    Precise does squat against shields too. :P.
  • Insandros
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    Chrysa1is wrote: »
    They just have to keep making our builds weaker and weaker don't they? So much for progression :)

    Haven't played for a while and came back to read the patch notes, and I LOL'd

    What does everyone else think? What ridiculous patch note makes you laugh the most?

    Droping sharpened as it was before was a good idea, now all traits are close together, so people trying to get specific weapons are now able to use different configurations, not only sharpened, which now with different gear approach, trying spinner+more CPS+lover mundus i can now use my infused shock vMA staff and do asmuch as with sharpened, thief mundus with another gear sets.
  • Kneighbors
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    I think it's cool not to have the best trait out there. So you just put anything you find and you are equally good with dedicated guy who was running dungeon 100 times to get the best trait. Actually there's no reason to run a dungeon twice anymore. There's not even reason to play. The best.
  • danno8
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    Sharpened wasn't great for diversity. But on the other hand nerfing it is an unmitigated buff to heavy armour in pvp. I feel like buffing other traits would have been better. But zos are feeling nerfy lately.

    True that HA gets an inadvertent buff in PvP, but consider the fact that Light armor also becomes more desirable for the penetration it provides.
  • PlagueSD
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    Eiagra wrote: »
    I only ever used Precise. *shrug* I only recently got to try Sharpened after the nerf because the set I wanted to use (Rattlecage) and the drop I was getting (Omen's Edge) finally twinned up so I had matching blades. I wasn't unhappy with the result.

    Exactly. SInce play a crit build, precise is the trait to use. I was laughing at the sharpened nerf. My crit rating actually increased 4% after the patch.
  • HatchetHaro
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    The sharpened nerf was fine; it gives room for the other traits to shine.

    The precise nerf (from the last PTS week), on the other hand, was an untested change that was entirely uncalled for. Precise is even worse than sharpened right now. Same can be said for the Thief and Shadow stones.

    BiS traits right now are infused and nirnhoned.
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  • Moltyr
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    Most people I know welcome the change. That includes myself. The more diversity we have in builds, the less mundane the game becomes. We are still very limited (at least for PvE) as to what the best options are, but at least it's something different. Since most of us have been running sharpened for nearly 4 years.
  • Maikon
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    It wasn't even a nerf, they just reverted it back to what it was like 5 or 6 updates ago
  • SanTii.92
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    Welcome to two months ago.
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  • deepseamk20b14_ESO
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    I'm currently using an infused sword with weapon damage enchant and it's awesome. My other is sharpened. I'd rather go nirnhoned but that trait doesn't drop for my gear lol.
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  • Morgul667
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    It is a great update.

    Many adjustments were made. Best balance change i have seen so far
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