Survivability is strong never really any issues unless I get focused by multiple players and at that point doesn't matter really what you have running. The second to last fight in the gameplay shows a 3-4 person press and I was able to survive against a Stam DK who was spamming major defile while I was at low hp. Recovered and kill em all XD.

I have ran the build with green dragon blood. You need to run bear haunch for the extra magicka regen. Surprisingly most people do not really run any major defile but the change is noticeable but not build breaking. Originally in my gladiator build I swapped volatile armor for green dragon blood to do exactly what you mentioned. I'll give it another go and tell you how it works out. The main thing with this setup is the flexibility to swap out different sets and still perform at a high level.

WaltherCarraway wrote: »

Speechless

#thelaststamdk

Seriously. Ive given up on Stam DK. i play it because its fun, but i dont expect to win on it. There just aren't any builds other than krotha's that use the DK skills - they're all focused too heavily on the item sets and item abilities. Hard to play a stam DK when stam warden exists.

I Like this because it uses something unique to DKs - the heavy attack boost. very cool build. I doubt i'm situationally aware enough to run it though. Krotha is IMO the best stam DK in the game atm.

WaltherCarraway wrote: »

Thogard wrote: »

WaltherCarraway wrote: »

Speechless

#thelaststamdk

Seriously. Ive given up on Stam DK. i play it because its fun, but i dont expect to win on it. There just aren't any builds other than krotha's that use the DK skills - they're all focused too heavily on the item sets and item abilities. Hard to play a stam DK when stam warden exists.

I Like this because it uses something unique to DKs - the heavy attack boost. very cool build. I doubt i'm situationally aware enough to run it though. Krotha is IMO the best stam DK in the game atm.

I agree. The best stam DK, IMO is Xylena Lazarow. I'd pay to watch em duel.

(However she rolled stam sorc after 3.1.5, that why i said agree cuz you mentioned 'atm' hahahah)

Hmm.. thats a bit of a stretch. IMO the only other contenders would be kodi and crabby. Kodi swapped to stam warden and crabby still plays but has converted to a poison fiend.

IIRC Xylena has a duel spec. Typical fury / shield up, then burst. Not particularly useful in group settings nor is it original.

Not that xylena is bad. Quite talented. But there are many other DKs out there that run the same build and play it the same way, leading to the same fight.

Krotha wrote: »

I fought alongside Xylena as far back as Wabbajack. In my eyes, she will always be one of the top Stam DKs of all time. I remember we were the only two people running Orc DKs back then and we kept at it for YEARS. Unfortunately she raced change and I lost my battle mate. #TheLastStamDK

Good Fight earlier today Thogard. Finally someone who gave me a decent challenge in BGs!

Thanks! I almost broke my keyboard when I accidentally fell through the floor of that new map but I'm glad you jumped down too to keep the fight going. Your DPS is just too much to handle, even with my blessed Cheese.

I think I might be retiring the DK soon though. I love the class because it's my first char, and I have practically all the DK sets on him to play around with, but it's hard to ignore that with my play style a Stam warden would be more effective.

I like your build a lot because it uses both igneous abilities, which are unique to DKs. I just don't think I have the situational awareness that you have to pull it off without dying a ton. You're really good at prekiting (do people still use that expression?) and I am not at that stage yet because the whole "keep the enemy in the reticle" thing still messes up my visibility compared to other PvP MMOs.

+1 for Athleticism

Thogard wrote: »

Krotha wrote: »

I fought alongside Xylena as far back as Wabbajack. In my eyes, she will always be one of the top Stam DKs of all time. I remember we were the only two people running Orc DKs back then and we kept at it for YEARS. Unfortunately she raced change and I lost my battle mate. #TheLastStamDK

Good Fight earlier today Thogard. Finally someone who gave me a decent challenge in BGs!

Thanks! I almost broke my keyboard when I accidentally fell through the floor of that new map but I'm glad you jumped down too to keep the fight going. Your DPS is just too much to handle, even with my blessed Cheese.

I think I might be retiring the DK soon though. I love the class because it's my first char, and I have practically all the DK sets on him to play around with, but it's hard to ignore that with my play style a Stam warden would be more effective.

I like your build a lot because it uses both igneous abilities, which are unique to DKs. I just don't think I have the situational awareness that you have to pull it off without dying a ton. You're really good at prekiting (do people still use that expression?) and I am not at that stage yet because the whole "keep the enemy in the reticle" thing still messes up my visibility compared to other PvP MMOs.

I focus on circle strafing my target so that I am out of their attack cone/reticle. You want to position yourself behind your target and juke them to commit to a certain direction. Essentially I am line of sighting my target with their own body.

scipionumatia wrote: »

@Krotha I noticed your using FoO how come? I ran that for a while but decided to swap it out for fossilize/stonegiant the general consensus from the forums when I asked was FoO is no longer a good skill in PvP. just asking to see if theres something I missed

EDIT-https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/362439/foo-and-you#latest

^ discussion I posted on it here

The main reason I use Flames of Oblivion is due to the build not having a gap closer. FoO is essentially a 15m snare that will apply the Ardent Flame snare passive when it hits a target. So what I do is I cast FoO when a target is out of melee range, the snare hits them and allows me to close the distance quicker and more efficiently. If I can get in range to land a venomous claw that will continue the ardent flame snare for an even longer duration. FoO also dishes out decent damage when you consider the amount of damage that I can stack with Clever Alchemist. I can even use FoO as an execute if you time it right with your dots and heavy weave attacks. When you are in a group fight, FoO is ticking on targets that are around you providing an additional passive snare. I will watch to see which target gets hit with FoO and I will try and snare a different target first so that I have 2 different targets snared at relatively the same time.If you time everything correctly you could even swap targets hit the initial FoO target with a venomous claw and the second tic of FoO will hit the first target that you tagged with venomous claw. Flames of Oblivion is also a low cost and relatively long buff that provides me with weapon crit when slotted.

This is a pure non cp build for BG's and wouldn't work in CP open world against good players. The build is good but it's not a 1vX build that could hang solo in the CP realm.

Dots vs burst with odds like 1v3 or more will never work.

TankHealz2015 wrote: »

Is it true that a poison will proc the Clever Alchemist?

The tooltip says when you drink a potion...

No it will not proc Clever Alchemist. You are using a poison on your weapon not actually drinking it!

Is clever alchemist used for the HP in conjunction with the 33% up-time on damage? Or am I missing something here? I feel like it performs well but I would have to say hunding's rage would perform better overall. Also, to my understanding disease and fassalla's stack in terms of healing reduction but, I feel like a shock enchantment paired with infused/charged would be, overall, more useful than oblivion damage. The status effect synergies' well with dual wield. And if you're adapting to CP, wouldn't it be the clear winner?

Also, I haven't had much time in-game since homestead (I don't even own a house yet), haven't touched morrowind and, now horns of the reach is out, so I'm very 'out-of-tune' right now. Forgive my ignorance.

Besides my critism, I absolutely love the idea of this build and cannot wait to get back into the game!

Jjitsuboy98 wrote: »

Would 5 Fury, 2 blood spawn, 5 Spriggan work with thus build?

Because i have that already golded out......