healer skill: mutagen or Rapid Regeneration?

Tasear · August 2017

Just curious which everyone prefers

TheDoomsdayMonster · August 2017

Mutagen all the way for me...

That save your @ss heal it can give is the deal clencher for me...

Slack · August 2017

Mutagen, my insurance, when I am slacking.

Fuxo · August 2017

Always rapid regen. I never know when mutagen is procced and hot is missing on an ally. I manage the oh *** moments with breath of life.

AcadianPaladin · August 2017

I like both but favor Rapid Regen. The more potent healing slightly outweighs the need to refresh it more often - but that is very subjective.

A nice thing is that Rapid Regen and Mutagen will stack on each other - nice if you have two resto stick users with diff morphs. My magplar pure pure healer uses RR but she sometimes runs with a magplar dps 'off healer' friend who uses Mutagen and we confirmed that it stacks.

Tasear · August 2017

It's interesting so far most people picked the safe method.

paulsimonps · August 2017

Tasear wrote: »

It's interesting so far most people picked the safe method.

I think the "oh ***" part of it can be really useful when healing veteran 4 man content, which is what most goes for. I would also assume its more popular with non Templar healers that don't have breath of life, it gives them more time to react. To be honest when I heal I do reapply this far more often then I probably should just incase it has proced and I need to get it up, also it hit everyone, its a strong HoT.

fioskal · August 2017

I prefer rapid regen but only for PvP, don't use either for PvE.

MrBetadine · August 2017

Rapid Regen for templars, mutagen for others

zcripturez · August 2017

Rapid regen always. But then again I rarely use resto staff heals anymore.

FakeFox · August 2017

I find mutagen to be highly unreliable and have other things for burst healing. To me HOTs are a tool to free up time to buff and throw orbs/shards and rapid just does that job better healing through higher incoming damage.

Biro123 · August 2017

looks like its boiling down to whether you have another source for burst heals or not..

Beardimus · August 2017

depends if PvP or PvE and what class of healer you are. But the emergnacy pop and free cleanse is sweet

TequilaFire · August 2017

Rapid Regen for PvP as ally night blades hate mutagen that pulls them out of stealth.

DeHei · August 2017

In PvP you can stack both and its very effective. I like both, but really prefer rapid regen on my templar. I think with allready much healing effects rapid regen ist much better. Since we have the healing ult, we dont need this mutageneffect as single player, because there is a burstheal from ult or some other skills. In a smallscale PvP group both work very well together. While playing a magicka DK i would maybe prefer mutagen for example.

jaschacasadiob16_ESO · August 2017

As a main healer HoTs are all you need to keep the party alive. You want strong, consistent Heals over Time that guarantee survival of the whole party even if you get incapacitated (turned into a skeleton, ...). If anyone falls below 20%, the HoTs should be so powerful to get temh back to 50% or more in a second.

That's why, in dungeons, I do prefer Rapid Regeneration.
It's not that Mutagen is bad. You simply should not need it. Not to mention is not consistent (it is immediately consumed if...) and less powerful.

I do personally combine Rapid Regen with Aura. The party can move around without having to stack up and still get healed by two HoTs at the same time. These continuous heals also make Bogdan's totems proc a lot, which is another 4500 heal per second to everyone in range.

Emergencies (HoTs not getting you back to 50% in a second) are fixed with a BoL.

Just because you heal it does not mean you should not know the mechanics. Some boss have AoEs that do a lot of damage to everyone. Know this. Be ready and cast a BoL right after it. No need for Mutagen to do the dirty job for you. And keep the HoTs rolling.

AcadianPaladin · August 2017

@ jaschacasadiob16_ESO well said. I try to keep all under Rapid Regen, position myself to keep most under Extended Aura. Then I try hard to keep Purify on most bigger foes - especially any boss being held by the tank. Ideally I want my tank to have full time Hots from all three sources. I find that Healing Springs is then all I might need to touch up damage. Rarely have to use BoL.

My point, I guess, is that I am a fan of trying to use Purify as a third HoT.

DeHei · August 2017

jaschacasadiob16_ESO wrote: »

As a main healer HoTs are all you need to keep the party alive. You want strong, consistent Heals over Time that guarantee survival of the whole party even if you get incapacitated (turned into a skeleton, ...). If anyone falls below 20%, the HoTs should be so powerful to get temh back to 50% or more in a second.

That's why, in dungeons, I do prefer Rapid Regeneration.
It's not that Mutagen is bad. You simply should not need it. Not to mention is not consistent (it is immediately consumed if...) and less powerful.

I do personally combine Rapid Regen with Aura. The party can move around without having to stack up and still get healed by two HoTs at the same time. These continuous heals also make Bogdan's totems proc a lot, which is another 4500 heal per second to everyone in range.

Emergencies (HoTs not getting you back to 50% in a second) are fixed with a BoL.

Just because you heal it does not mean you should not know the mechanics. Some boss have AoEs that do a lot of damage to everyone. Know this. Be ready and cast a BoL right after it. No need for Mutagen to do the dirty job for you. And keep the HoTs rolling.

Yep, i totally agree. Hots give you time to do other things like support with bubbles or damage if the group need to do much damage like in vDSA.

Brrrofski · August 2017

Rapid regen for more chance to proc spell power cure on templar and sorc.

I used mutagen on a NB healer. Not healed on the other two.

What this thread highlights though is a skill with good morph choices. Not many skills would be so close.

Koensol · August 2017

I always use rapid regen. Even on my nightblade healer. I simply hate that the heal on mutagen is consumed when an ally has low health, because this means that if you cast it on an ally with 19% health, it is immediately consumed. Basically a very inefficient and lackluster BoL. I prefer to stack hots together and keep them up at all times, so that once someone gets low they go up fairly quick. I would hate to have to reapply mutagen after casting it on a low health ally. Plus, I simply prefer the faster healing ticks on rapids. Over time it heals more than mutagen.

FoolishHuman · August 2017

I have rapid regen on my templar, mutagen on my nightblade

DeHei · August 2017

Koensol wrote: »

I always use rapid regen. Even on my nightblade healer. I simply hate that the heal on mutagen is consumed when an ally has low health, because this means that if you cast it on an ally with 19% health, it is immediately consumed. Basically a very inefficient and lackluster BoL. I prefer to stack hots together and keep them up at all times, so that once someone gets low they go up fairly quick. I would hate to have to reapply mutagen after casting it on a low health ally. Plus, I simply prefer the faster healing ticks on rapids. Over time it heals more than mutagen.

Oh i forgot, mutagens effect is over after comsuming. Yeah then rapid regen is much better to handle more situations.

TheDoomsdayMonster · August 2017

Brrrofski wrote: »

What this thread highlights though is a skill with good morph choices. Not many skills would be so close.

100% agree...

There are not a lot abilities in this game where both Morphs are good and viable...

Whoever designed Mutagen and Rapid Regen did a good job...

Illurian · August 2017

Rapid Regen gets my vote. The quicker ticks mean a higher uptime for SPC and more frequent activation of the vMA Resto staff.

Mutagen works really weirdly in my experience. The burst part of the heal only occurs during the next tick of the skill, and not immediately when your ally drops to below 20% hp, which depending on when the last tick was, is usually enough time to manually burst heal them back.

Overall, Regeneration is a proactive heal skill and Rapid Regen fulfills this to its highest potential. Mutagen tries to combine a proactive skill with a reactive quirk, but ends up being mediocre at both.

crashen17b14_ESO · August 2017

I use mutagen as a nightblade healer. I keep funnel health up on people at all times so they have a decent hot running even if mutagen is consumed. Mutagen being consumed buys time for funnel health/refreshing path/sap essence if need be, to restore them while i reapply mutagen.

Rapid regen is very good, but I have enough solid HoTs that the versatility of mutagen is better for me. It is a very good skill that has two perfect morphs that let it fill whichever role a healer needs.

The other thing is that it looks like direct healing classes (templars) choose the pure HoT, while primarily HoT healers (nightblades) choose the morph with the direct heal component.

I have no idea how sorcs, templars or dks heal.

tommalmm · August 2017

Rapid Regen. I like its predictability. This plus extended ritual and I rarely have to use bol (unless DPSs are lacking or simply make a mistake). And SPC pretty much has max uptime with only these two hots running. I really can't understand healers that have resto staff equipped and do not use either. Once they can't use bol (incapacitated, stunned, cocooned, whatever), quite often DPS might not even have a chance to ress (unless has self heals sloted, but then why would you need a healer anyway?).

Still, I can see why the other morph could be useful on anything other than templar (bol) or sorc (matriarch pet).

Zimbugga · August 2017

I like both, but my healer use Mutagen. You can see easily when effect ends and it's longer. I sometimes forget whole skill, so Mutagen is better to my play style.

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