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What counts as bleed damage?
MADshadowman_
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Blooddrinker (Medium)
Can we compile a list of sources for bleed damage? I'd like to see if there's anything i didn't think of yet.
These are the things i could come up with:
Do you know anything else that causes bleed damage?
- (2) Weapon Critical
- (3) Weapon Damage
- (4) Weapon Critical
- (5) Increases the damage you deal with bleed damage over time effects by 20%.
Can we compile a list of sources for bleed damage? I'd like to see if there's anything i didn't think of yet.
These are the things i could come up with:
- 2H - Cleave
- DW - Twin Slashes
- Set - Twin Sisters
- Weapon - All 2H Axes
Do you know anything else that causes bleed damage?
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Gargath✭✭✭✭✭
✭For example WW light attacks.PC EU (PL): 14 characters. ESO player since 06.08.2015. Farkas finest quote: "Some people don't think I'm smart. Those people get my fist. But you, I like."3 -
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✭✭✭MADshadowman_ wrote: »Blooddrinker (Medium)- (2) Weapon Critical
- (3) Weapon Damage
- (4) Weapon Critical
- (5) Increases the damage you deal with bleed damage over time effects by 20%.
Can we compile a list of sources for bleed damage? I'd like to see if there's anything i didn't think of yet.
These are the things i could come up with:- 2H - Cleave
- DW - Twin Slashes
- Set - Twin Sisters
- Weapon - All 2H Axes
Do you know anything else that causes bleed damage?
Dual wielding Axes. Its just like 2H Axes, and both are caused by a passive in their skill line, not the weapons themselves.0 -
Sheezabeast✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Twin Sisters set does bleed too doesn't it?Grand Master Crafter, Beta baby who grew with the game. PC/NA. @Sheezabeast if you have crafting needs!2 -
Jiandao✭✭✭Pillar of Nirn set from Falkreach.
Those two medium sets seem to compliment each other well.0 -
Alchemical✭✭✭✭✭For example WW light attacks.
Yeah, I was eyeing blood drinker for my WW the minute info on HotR came out. Haven't had the chance to start farming though. Still, mite be cool.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭I think any kind of physical damage over time counts as bleed damage right?CP2,100 Master Explorer - AvA Two Star Warlord - Console Peasant - Khajiiti Aficionado - The Clan
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Qbiken✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Alchemical wrote: »For example WW light attacks.
Yeah, I was eyeing blood drinker for my WW the minute info on HotR came out. Haven't had the chance to start farming though. Still, mite be cool.
Way ahead of you farming that
Edited by Qbiken on August 15, 2017 6:05AM1 -
Valderis✭✭I think any kind of physical damage over time counts as bleed damage right?
Bleed Damage is Phys. Dmg, but a separate status effect. Also not affected by Penetration if I understand correctly.Jone and Jode are in a dance. Who leads, you ask? There, lies the wisdom of my ancestors... - Ra'fiiq0 -
Zeromaz✭✭✭✭The 2H bleed DOES stack with DW bleed. One is called Heavy Weapons and the other is Twin Blade and Blunt3 -
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✭So, 5 blood drinker, 5 hulking, and 2 pc kena...WW duel wielding charged axes and light attacking you to fn death...
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MaselClass RepresentativeUppGRAYxDD wrote: »So, 5 blood drinker, 5 hulking, and 2 pc kena...WW duel wielding charged axes and light attacking you to fn death...
Charged doesn't increase bleed uptime and if it did,it would be bad. Reason is that it is a dot that ticks for the first time after two seconds and you keep refreshing it within the first two seconds very often, rendering the bleed useless
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Bladerunner1✭✭✭✭UppGRAYxDD wrote: »So, 5 blood drinker, 5 hulking, and 2 pc kena...WW duel wielding charged axes and light attacking you to fn death...
Try stacking weapon damage to buff light attacks.
Hundings or Automaton would buff light attacks 4x as much as Hulking.
Gotta go with the warrior mundus.
For the werewolf, there wouldn't be any switching back and forth with weapons, so maybe one Nirn traited mainhand + infused offhand with weapon damage enchantment. You won't need physical penetration for the bleed damage.Edited by Bladerunner1 on August 15, 2017 8:35PM3 -
Zeromaz✭✭✭✭UppGRAYxDD wrote: »So, 5 blood drinker, 5 hulking, and 2 pc kena...WW duel wielding charged axes and light attacking you to fn death...
You lose all weapon passives when you're in WW form so having axes in werewolve gives you no benefit over anything else. You won't proc the Twin Blade and Blunt bleed from it bud0 -
Pixelex✭✭✭I think the Rearming Trap dot is bleed damage, too?
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Qbiken✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Blooddrinker is a very powerful set for a Werewolf if you can have the bleed on the enemy for the entire duration (8 seconds). Not that the blooddrinker buff 20% extra bleeddamage works similiar to the "minor berserk" buff. Got it explained by Asayre:Damage = Tooltip * Resistance * Critical * Damage Done * Damage Taken * Execute bonus
The 5 piece bonus of Blooddrinker falls under Damage Done (as is CP, Minor Slayer and Minor Berserk to name a few). All Damage Done buffs are additive with one another. If you had Minor Slayer and say 20% CP increasing your bleed damage then with Blooddrinker your Damage Done will be 5 (Minor Slayer) + 20 (CP) + 20 (Blooddrinker) for a total of 45.
Major Brutality will increase your weapon damage which increases the tooltip of the bleed damage.
Reasons why bleed-damage is so strong:
- It ignores resistance, which means it is as effective on ligtharmor target as on Heavy armor targets.
- It can crit (with exception for the "Twin-sister" set, which probably counts as a procset. Haven´t tested it but wouldn´t be sursprised if it does)
- Imagine 16-18k critable bleed over 8 seconds, those are numbers you can get with Blooddrinker as a WW.
Biggest issue is what set you´re going to use together with that. Blooddrinker offers only damage for a very specific playstyle. After that you need to invest in some sort of sustain and/or surviveability (Talking PvP WW), which I´m still working around for my WW pvp build.UppGRAYxDD wrote: »So, 5 blood drinker, 5 hulking, and 2 pc kena...WW duel wielding charged axes and light attacking you to fn death...
Charged doesn't increase bleed uptime and if it did,it would be bad. Reason is that it is a dot that ticks for the first time after two seconds and you keep refreshing it within the first two seconds very often, rendering the bleed useless
I´ve noticed that the first WW-bleed tick starts when the first light attack is applied, and not after 2 seconds. Can be an UI-error from my addons but worth testing more imo.
Did not know this, insightful2 -
Everstorm✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Thanks, and when dualwielding one axe and another type, will the bleed happen more often when the axe is in your mainhand?
Nm, from reading the Twin blade and blunt tool tip it works for any melee attack.Edited by Everstorm on August 17, 2017 3:23PM0 -
Gan Xing✭✭✭✭Carve, rending slashes, 2h heavy, and dual heavy (all axes) with pillar of nirn, and blood drinker can cause someone to go from 30k to 0k in about 10-15 seconds. It takes a while, but it will kill them (as long as they aren't doing anything). I too will be farming for it.Gan Xing - Crafting Nightblade
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✭✭✭✭✭Bleed build seems good on a stamplar because of jabs + potl technically being dots.PS4 EU DC
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Zeromaz✭✭✭✭For you fellas who want to bypass investing in penetration. Try DW/2H axes, twin slashes and carve setup with torugs pact charged shock enchant on offhand (you can proc offhand reliably with twin slashes) and infused oblivion mainhand. The *** is ridiculous on my stam NB1
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Pixelex✭✭✭Is the Rearming Trap dot bleed damage, too? ^^Meisterangler alias Masterfischi
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