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What do you think of necropotence nerf?
lauykanson
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I don't care at all since I don't run petsorc, but with the 2-4 piece bonuses being buffed necro should perform similar to now.
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Strider_Roshin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭I think they should nerf it to 2540, and get rid of the pet requirement.Edited by Strider_Roshin on August 7, 2017 8:18PM17 -
Magdalina✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭I wonder if it could possibly be worth it running Necro FOUR piece along with 5 piece something else and a monster set? Necro 4 piece looks awfully good next patch.1 -
UppGRAYxDD✭✭✭✭✭
✭Shadowrend+necropotence+MagDK/Magplar=LULZ!!! Get ready"Stendarr's mercy be upon you, for the vigil has none to spare."2 -
Tryxus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Much needed, am happy with the reduction"Stand strong, stay true and shelter all."
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zaria✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭What is the nerf? its 4K with pet now.Grinding just make you go in circles.
Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.0 -
IcyDeadPeople✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I think they have been looking at overwhelming numbers of people all using the same sets and trying to encourage build diversity.Stop nerfing good sets and buff useless ones.
I certainly agree, but it is probably a lot more challenging to buff 30 individual sets with completely different mechanics, and there is a risk that one of those becomes too strong or breaks something else etc.
I'd say recent nerfs to necropotence, sharpened, spinner's, etc, are reasonable, not so much that they become trash, but perhaps closer to performance of several similar options.
Edited by IcyDeadPeople on August 7, 2017 8:33PM8 -
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✭✭VinyParsley2016 wrote: »
I thought it's 3150ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »
Item Sets- Necropotence: Reduced the Max Magicka increase granted by this Item Set to 3150 from 4000.
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Skander✭✭✭✭✭
✭Shield sieze would be too much, thus the set must be nerfed.I meme, but my memes are so truthful they hurt
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zaria✭✭✭✭✭
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2K well that pretty much kills it, 1k, 1k, 1k, 2k if pet.VinyParsley2016 wrote: »
Well its not pointless but it would be an obvious partial set for more magic now.
Grinding just make you go in circles.
Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.0 -
Magdalina✭✭✭✭✭
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2K well that pretty much kills it, 1k, 1k, 1k, 2k if pet.VinyParsley2016 wrote: »
Well its not pointless but it would be an obvious partial set for more magic now.
It's 3150. Don't listen to everything people tell you but rather go and check natch potes yourself I'd say
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thedude33✭✭✭✭✭IcyDeadPeople wrote: »I think they have been looking at overwhelming numbers of people all using the same sets and trying to encourage build diversity.Stop nerfing good sets and buff useless ones.
I certainly agree, but it is probably a lot more challenging to buff 30 individual sets with completely different mechanics, and there is a risk that one of those becomes too strong or breaks something else etc.
I'd say recent nerfs to necropotence, sharpened, spinner's, etc, are reasonable, not so much that they become trash, but perhaps closer to performance of several similar options.
I agree. The problem is, even if the advantage is slight, like 0.000005 % if you wear 'X' armor, the min/maxers will flock to it. Once it gets on youtube it's over. Everyone will be wearing the same thing. People will get booted from groups for not wearing it. People will get mocked for not wearing it. Quite amusing tbh
There is no way around it.
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Vaoh✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Best example possible of listening to QQ instead of buffing the many sets that are completely trash. This change change will kill this set for any PvE build I would've used it for. Going from 4000 to 3150 is a massive nerf that even negates the 2/3/4 piece buffs.
To put this nerf in perspective:
People do not use Draugr Hulk, yet it doesn't even have a pet requirement. Necropotence has a serious requirement, yet now gives almost the same amount of stat bonus as Draugr Hulk. Moreover, the total Max Magicka increase is now a net loss from the value provided in Morrowind.
It was already tough to run this set. Next patch, it doesn't seem like there will be a reason to run this set anymore over the already new meta combo: Mother's Sorrow+Julianos.
Simply put, in HotR a Magicka Sorc would run
1x Ilambris/Iceheart+5x Mother's Sorrow+5x Julianos as the "BiS" build (according to every test right now besides the bugged Torug's Pact/Infused combo that just got fixed). Necropotence could replace one of these sets if a pet was used.
With this nerf, there is no need to use Necropotence at all, since the DPS will be the same (or less) and your pet can also die, leaving you with no 5-piece beneft and causing a large DPS loss.
......we will see. Not happy about this right now, especially with such of a massive nerf. It looks to me like there will be a singular "best" PvE DPS build in HotR now for most classes thanks to how ZOS is having a handful sets be even more powerful for PvE instead of buffing the weak sets.Edited by Vaoh on August 7, 2017 9:23PM8 -
STEVIL✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭make the 5 pc double the 2-3-4pc size so ~2180 iirc plus...
pets do not despawn from swapping to bars where they are not slotted (tho still have to be on bar to trigger their on-click.)
wont happen but hey...
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Sharee✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I dont really mind. I always forget to recast betty so this will probably be a buff to my warden
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✭✭✭✭I use necropotence, and will continue to use it. Change is OK IMHO.
Yeah, a spell damage/crit set will(and should) generally mean more damage, cos necro is close, but also gives more survivability.Minalan owes me a beer.
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Vaoh✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Welcome to the Mother's Sorrow and Julianos meta, my fellow Mag Sorcs/NBs/Templars/Warden. DKs can still probably run Sun instead of Julianos.
I've already got all of my gear ready. Just feels off that I'll have to drop Necropotence even on my pet DPS build.
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✭✭✭✭✭Wow my Mag Warden will only have 41,150 max magicka instead of 42,000 oh no!
People on this forum. lol18 -
Betsararie✭✭✭✭✭
✭TequilaFire wrote: »Wow my Mag Warden will only have 41,150 max magicka instead of 42,000 oh no!
People on this forum. lol
I was sitting at 53.5k on my sorc and am still going to stop using it.
I've been wanting to drop that pet for a long time anyway. Constantly dies, disappears into walls, etc.1 -
Vaoh✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭TequilaFire wrote: »Wow my Mag Warden will only have 41,150 max magicka instead of 42,000 oh no!
People on this forum. lol
^That moment when you don't understand how stats work in this game....
The only place where this change is positive is in PvP, yet you'll still see those Pet builds that are broken in 1v1s since the inherent issues are untouched.
As for PvE, this set is now outclassed by other DPS sets which do not have a requirement for a living pet to be active.Edited by Vaoh on August 7, 2017 10:26PM5
