Casual game,casual development.far too long between cycles of improvement,they won t go any faster,when they release new content is when we'll get changes/improvements.

Here are some HIGHLY successful people.

The best of the best of the best.
UNDEFEATED

One thing they all have in common.
They WORK HARD
When you sleeping they working
You work 12 hours a day, they work 15 hours a day
You eating lunch, they too busy with success they forgot about lunch

Few notable people with undoubtedly known for highly successful
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8LuQItZaDs
No one "athlete" works harder than him

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s81u1NaNCPw
Nobody works harder than Kim K, there's a reason why she's the most famous person, HARD WORK

ESO needs to take notes and get to it, WoW has been #1 for far too long, too many MMO's claiming to have killed WoW... But why is WoW #1... Those developers WORK HARDER. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDyS-3XKbpo
You want to be sucessful, only one thing to do. HARD WORK. DEDICATION. HARD WORK. DEDICATION. HARD WORK. DEDICATION

According to Firor they have 10 million accounts across all platforms. Why would they do anything differently?

Unless of course you think he is a liar but I would find that EXTREMELY unlikely. So I dont get it, why does anyone think they would do anything differently if millions are buying what they are selling?

I mean it is what it is at this point, it became a casual watered down MMO like many of the other ones due to market demand. I mean look around, people are crying on the forums for more housing slots, and dps QQ on PVE runs you dont need that much damage for anyway. lulz

Malic wrote: »

According to Firor they have 10 million accounts across all platforms. Why would they do anything differently?

Unless of course you think he is a liar but I would find that EXTREMELY unlikely. So I dont get it, why does anyone think they would do anything differently if millions are buying what they are selling?

I mean it is what it is at this point, it became a casual watered down MMO like many of the other ones due to market demand. I mean look around, people are crying on the forums for more housing slots, and dps QQ on PVE runs you dont need that much damage for anyway. lulz

10 million you say???
WoW 12 million

Anybody kill World of Warcraft yet???
NOPE

Lots of talk about "WoW killer", WoW is still the REIGNING. DEFENDING. UNDISPUTED. UNDEFEATED. CHAMPION OF THE WORLD

Floyd MONEY Mayweather.
Lots of talk about breaking his record. How he gonna get KNOCKED OUT. Yet STILL. 49 and O. 5 different weight classes. THE REIGNING. UNDEFATED. UNDISPUTED. CHAMPION OF THE WORLD.

ESO works hard... 10 million.
WoW OUTWORKED ESO. 12 million.

See what I'm getting at.
IF you aint first.... YOU LAST

10 years from now....
Nobody will remember ESO if they dont STEP UP
World of Warcraft... EVERYONE has heard of it... Thats the level ESO needs to be on.
Because if I say Elder Scrolls Online.... NOBODY KNOWS IT
When I say World of Warcraft... EVERYONE KNOWS WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT

Think of it like this.
Pacquio he did good, looked good...
AND THE WINNER IS....
World of Warcraft aka FLOYD MONEY MAYWEATHER

he outworked you.
10 million? LMAO
12 million is WoW

WoW is still #1

Septimus_Magna wrote: »

You really think developers can decide, oke we want better servers and rebuild the game engine. They walk up to their boss and he says, oke thats fine, how much money do you need? Would 20m be enough?

Unfortunately everything is about money in the gaming industry. Our pleasure only matters if the buisness model is netting enough money with a relatively low risk.

Busy making excuses for them???

Watch this video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwTXCmcaQNw
Game developer comes to a problem... Money...
What do they do??? HARD WORK. Stay up late at night thinking about code to cut costs.
This video shows LEGENDARY Quake developers playing around with code and coming up with solution, BEING INNOVATIVE... Cutting costs.
These guys dont make excuses. All I hear with ESO... Excuses Excuses Excuses.

Less excuses, more solutions.
You know why my school has most top 5 national placings at NSAC??? Because they do HARD WORK.
Whats our motto??? A clock picture. Because we stay up late nights... OBSESSED with winning.
Whoever told me, "quit bugging them and you do it instead", BRAH I would CRUSH these developers if ESO was paying me. I would CRUSH these ESO marketers if they was paying me.
Already PROVEN

What do myself and Floyd Money Mayweather have in common???
We don't do stuff for free, we proven ourselves enough times. Floyd is UNDEFEATED, PROVEN AGAIN AND AGAIN... Yet you still question?

Malic wrote: »

qsnoopyjr wrote: »

Malic wrote: »

According to Firor they have 10 million accounts across all platforms. Why would they do anything differently?

Unless of course you think he is a liar but I would find that EXTREMELY unlikely. So I dont get it, why does anyone think they would do anything differently if millions are buying what they are selling?

I mean it is what it is at this point, it became a casual watered down MMO like many of the other ones due to market demand. I mean look around, people are crying on the forums for more housing slots, and dps QQ on PVE runs you dont need that much damage for anyway. lulz

10 million you say???
WoW 12 million

Anybody kill World of Warcraft yet???
NOPE

Lots of talk about "WoW killer", WoW is still the REIGNING. DEFENDING. UNDISPUTED. UNDEFEATED. CHAMPION OF THE WORLD

Floyd MONEY Mayweather.
Lots of talk about breaking his record. How he gonna get KNOCKED OUT. Yet STILL. 49 and O. 5 different weight classes. THE REIGNING. UNDEFATED. UNDISPUTED. CHAMPION OF THE WORLD.

ESO works hard... 10 million.
WoW OUTWORKED ESO. 12 million.

See what I'm getting at.
IF you aint first.... YOU LAST

10 years from now....
Nobody will remember ESO if they dont STEP UP
World of Warcraft... EVERYONE has heard of it... Thats the level ESO needs to be on.
Because if I say Elder Scrolls Online.... NOBODY KNOWS IT
When I say World of Warcraft... EVERYONE KNOWS WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT

Think of it like this.
Pacquio he did good, looked good...
AND THE WINNER IS....
World of Warcraft aka FLOYD MONEY MAYWEATHER

he outworked you.
10 million? LMAO
12 million is WoW

WoW is still #1

I never argue with idiots, they always beat you with their expertise. You win, idiot.

I have so much references on you...
Theres nothing you can even say to defend yourself because I got a reference to put you down with.

Thats the thing about educated people. They will win, always win, because they got proof to back it up with.
As you go through college,
Bachelors is just, what do you think... Think about it. Memorize these terms and think.
Masters is just, BACK IT UP WITH REFERENCES. That claim you made, why is it not backed with references. Is a reliable evidence? Was it controlled, uncontrolled?
Doctors, I cannot say what they are, they most likely COMBINE references of others and thinking, to do research.

I know none of you are even remotely close to PhD
I know vast amount of you, do not have a Masters Degree, probable that only 1% of you do and know better than to confront another Master Degree holder.

Yes, I win. I will beat you with references, make my claim known, and will out work you.

kichwas wrote: »

qsnoopyjr wrote: »

Blood sweat and tears went into those games, the developers quit there job afterwords because they put their life into them and it was a masterpiece they broke records and put it all on the line.

Actually it is common in the gaming industry to lay off about half your team after a product release. Likewise in the animation and movie industries.

And believe it or not... engineering is a job like any other. People learn to code, get jobs, have lives, move jobs, retire, etc...

Nobody sits in a basement laboring away until they drop dead.

Thats the difference between a success and a failure

You may be making nearly or around 6 figures... Do people call you successful? NOPE
Yes you are doing good, you are average... Like I said in another thread, average is actually bad.
Think about it, when you in working on bachelors... Getting a C... Thats average. What do people think about it? BAD
Think about it, when you working on masters... Getting a B... Thats average. What do people think about it? BAD

Video game industry is highly volatile.
Next thing you know. 2018. New MMORPG. Game of Thrones or something.
BAM ESO population cut 3 three times. All because they started slacking. "we got families, we human, we this and that"

What is that? Those are excuses. If you want to be the best. The best ever. You have to be obessed with what it is, in this case, making the game. Family, this and that, excuse excuse doesnt matter. All that matters is making the game.

Thats how you achieve greatness. Thats how you be the best ever.

Did they talk about ESO halloween event last year on CNN.com?
Did they talk about ESO halloween event on MSNBC?
Did the ytalk about ESO halloween event on Fox?

NOPE NOPE NOPE

Did they talk about WoW on CNN, MSNBC, FOX??
YEP YEP YEP

Get to work, no more excuses.
I don't want to hear anymore about "this year halloween is gonna be pretty much same as last year"
"we don't have enough time to do a better halloween event, its already confirmed and in beta"

BRAH,
ITS ONLY AUGUST, BEGINNING OF AUGUST.

You already making excuses?

Do you hear Floyd MONEY MAYWEATHER making excuses?
No, he dont think about defeat, thats why he will be 50 and 0

And here you have ESO, already thinking defeat and thinking hard about not trying an attempt to make one of the best halloween events ever.

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

Most of the game listed are not relevant. Some are clearly not MMORPGs. WoW is the only MMO listed is kinda like comparing a Comodore 64 to even a quad core computer of today.

A majority that play WoW are either on potatoes that could not manage running ESO or they prefer the more simplistic MMORPG designs of yesterday. Regardless, one thing is clear, the WoW style MMO is a thing of the past.

There is a reason we play ESO. It is the best currently available MMO. With all it's issues, that is the reason we are here.

Did you read articles?
Did you look at the time stamp?
2016 2017
WOW #1
ESO #3

All you are doing, is thinking out loud, and you have not read or did any research and I'd like to say that your thinking is completely wrong according to the research.

Why is WoW the only listed MMORPG???
Because it has been #1, since it launched. Thats why.
So many games lay claim to killing WoW, NONE OF THEM DID. Thats Fact.

I list other games, because those are games people talk about, and will continue to talk about 10 years from now.
If ESO wants to be a game people talk about 10 years from now, they need to step it up.

ESO is like Oblivion, and soon or later Skyrim.

WoW is like MORROWIND.
Morrowind was a legend of a game, thats when Elder Scrolls took flight.
Oblivion, and soon to be Skyrim, those are games just to keep the legacy going

Quake, World of Warcraft, Star Craft, Diablo 2, Morrowind, Grand Theft Auto 3, those are were the games truly made an impact on society.

ESO right now, its just another game stuck in the middle until another legend of a game comes by.
There is nothing special about this game, its not in the news, you dont hear about it, theres nothing to it.
At least in WoW, people have judgements on it, because its highly successful, and highly successful things usually have people say negative things about it.

Like my man Floyd Money Mayweather
Like Kim Kardashian
Like World of Warcraft

People like em??? NOPE
They the GOAT??? YEP

Theres a thing in marketing called Top of Mind Brand Awareness
Top of Mind Brand Awareness is what people are thinking about when a topic or category comes to mind.
It is known that World of Warcraft DOMINATES it when MMORPG comes to mind.

Goto another game, another MMORPG, ask people what is #1 MMORPG.
You will hear either, that particular MMORPG or World of Warcraft.
ESO is not even in the consideration set, its not that popular for one thing. Skyrim is more popular and known, when people think of Elder Scrolls, they think Skyrim... Thats another marketing methodology that can be discussed later, which is hindrance to ESO.

Example being, https://www.pcgamesn.com/10-best-pc-mmos
No ESO on that list. Several other lists... NO ESO.

Whose to blame for this? ESO marketers. They lacking in the consideration set, top of mind brand awareness, and oh so many more things too.

You have the coders and developers being lazy and not making a new, unique, taking advantage of opportunity to increase the enjoyment of the game... A national holiday, a good holiday to do something and have PR talk about it... YET they take the easy route... "We just do same thing as last year"

You have the marketers, also slackers, they focusing too much on making money, they should be focusing on awareness of the game, because GW2 is beating them in it. The data they collected? Bad methodology, should hire some MASTERS DEGREE people, who can tell difference between a good survey methodology and a bad one, this way they get the correct data to make the correct decisions of what they should be focusing on.

Blanco wrote: »

lol. ESO will peter out in a few years and die. It will never approach anything close to WoW.

I'm not sure what got you so enthusiastic about this, but if the GOD AWFUL PITIFUL, DISGRACEFUL, DISGUSTING performance of this game is any indicator, the devs do not care at all about making the game better or great (as is their right...).

We have multiple more years with this game, but I don't think it's intended to be a big game (Twitch viewership is disgraceful), and there doesn't seem to be any attention being paid to performance at all.

Assumedly they are simply riding out the current wave of moderate success, until it dies.

Yes, they could be bouncing back, they have opportunities coming, the fall and winter season, halloween, winter, so many events they could be doing.

Yet, they chosing not to take advantage of any of it.
It's only August and from what I hear... Halloween is 3 months away and .... The halloween event is already on the PTS.. They already threw in the towel.

How can you be best ever if you throw in towel months in advance??
I dont consider that working 100% capacity,
They working at 70%
70% is C
C is average
Average is.... What???
BAD

qsnoopyjr wrote: »

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

Most of the game listed are not relevant. Some are clearly not MMORPGs. WoW is the only MMO listed is kinda like comparing a Comodore 64 to even a quad core computer of today.

A majority that play WoW are either on potatoes that could not manage running ESO or they prefer the more simplistic MMORPG designs of yesterday. Regardless, one thing is clear, the WoW style MMO is a thing of the past.

There is a reason we play ESO. It is the best currently available MMO. With all it's issues, that is the reason we are here.

Did you read articles?
Did you look at the time stamp?
2016 2017
WOW #1
ESO #3

All you are doing, is thinking out loud, and you have not read or did any research and I'd like to say that your thinking is completely wrong according to the research.

Why is WoW the only listed MMORPG???
Because it has been #1, since it launched. Thats why.
So many games lay claim to killing WoW, NONE OF THEM DID. Thats Fact.

I list other games, because those are games people talk about, and will continue to talk about 10 years from now.
If ESO wants to be a game people talk about 10 years from now, they need to step it up.

ESO is like Oblivion, and soon or later Skyrim.

WoW is like MORROWIND.
Morrowind was a legend of a game, thats when Elder Scrolls took flight.
Oblivion, and soon to be Skyrim, those are games just to keep the legacy going

Quake, World of Warcraft, Star Craft, Diablo 2, Morrowind, Grand Theft Auto 3, those are were the games truly made an impact on society.

ESO right now, its just another game stuck in the middle until another legend of a game comes by.
There is nothing special about this game, its not in the news, you dont hear about it, theres nothing to it.
At least in WoW, people have judgements on it, because its highly successful, and highly successful things usually have people say negative things about it.

Like my man Floyd Money Mayweather
Like Kim Kardashian
Like World of Warcraft

People like em??? NOPE
They the GOAT??? YEP

Theres a thing in marketing called Top of Mind Brand Awareness
Top of Mind Brand Awareness is what people are thinking about when a topic or category comes to mind.
It is known that World of Warcraft DOMINATES it when MMORPG comes to mind.

Goto another game, another MMORPG, ask people what is #1 MMORPG.
You will hear either, that particular MMORPG or World of Warcraft.
ESO is not even in the consideration set, its not that popular for one thing. Skyrim is more popular and known, when people think of Elder Scrolls, they think Skyrim... Thats another marketing methodology that can be discussed later, which is hindrance to ESO.

Example being, https://www.pcgamesn.com/10-best-pc-mmos
No ESO on that list. Several other lists... NO ESO.

Whose to blame for this? ESO marketers. They lacking in the consideration set, top of mind brand awareness, and oh so many more things too.

You have the coders and developers being lazy and not making a new, unique, taking advantage of opportunity to increase the enjoyment of the game... A national holiday, a good holiday to do something and have PR talk about it... YET they take the easy route... "We just do same thing as last year"

You have the marketers, also slackers, they focusing too much on making money, they should be focusing on awareness of the game, because GW2 is beating them in it. The data they collected? Bad methodology, should hire some MASTERS DEGREE people, who can tell difference between a good survey methodology and a bad one, this way they get the correct data to make the correct decisions of what they should be focusing on.

You have said nothing that changes the post you replied to. Again, WoW #1 is great. Used to be the only game in town and still has a strong following from that which AGAIN, most play because it will still run on the potato of a PC or the are challenged with a game that is not absurdly simplistic because they cannot handle choices.

Besides, ESO is not trying to compete with WoW. No one is.

Gotta love the graphics. Anyone who plays ESO in high or ultra will be so jealous of the detail in WoW graphics. Not even getting into the ultra simplistic combat design in the game. Not worthy of comparison to ESO.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8AgrtzSpug