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Casual play - Does race matter?

Gromgok
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Hey guys,

I'm considering making a magicka-based Templar (I think I got that right) mainly for solo PvE content, maybe some light group content. Certainly nothing high-end. Does it really matter what race I go with, or should I just go with what I like for this level of play?

Thanks!
  • Nemesis7884
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    definatly not

    race doesn't even matter THAT much for high end content - it's not a question if you can do it but rather how well/fast... when people recommend races and builds etc. - for the "high end" players it's mostly about optimizing with regards to completing things faster not being able to complete them
    Edited by Nemesis7884 on August 6, 2017 5:58AM
  • Gromgok
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    OK, thanks a bunch. I'm not a raider these days, so maybe I will just go with the lizard guy after all. :smile:
  • StormWylf
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    No, just pick a race and side you want to play.
  • Khenarthi
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    Pick the race you like best and just go with it. Like you, I mostly do solo quests and exploration, with a bit of group content in the mix (nothing to exacting though - I'm not going to bring my characters into vet trials!). All my characters are Khajiit, even if half of them use magicka rather than stamina skills and weapons - and they do just fine.
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  • WuffyCerulei
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    Really it doesn't. You'll see a lot of recommended races for end-game stuff, but even then people still do what they want. I mean, I have a lizard magicka sorc and I do fine.
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  • zergbase_ESO
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    It doesn't. Only time you worry is during Min-maxing but if you play the game to enjoy story and seldom vet dungeons and such and reg trials it matters none.
  • kichwas
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    Well if you make an elf... you're going to have to look at that thing all day long without being able to attack it...

    So in that sense yeah. Go with the lizard.
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  • Integral1900
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    I always go nord regardless of class or build, they just appeal, also my wife of some fifteen years is Scandinavian who does historical reenacting, 6 foot 6 and uses a 180 pound Glamorgan longbow, she is so similar to lyris titanborne in looks, voice and appearance that with the exception of long dark hair it's like looking at an echo. First time I met the charecter is was wonderfully eerie. Even now, after so many play throughs it still makes me all warm and fuzzy
    Edited by Integral1900 on August 6, 2017 6:40AM
  • Morgul667
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    Not for casual play, choose what you like
  • Tasear
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    ;) I am bosmer healing sorrecer and technically by typical standards I am in this mysterious 1% . It really doesn't matter unless your goal it be number 1 throughout the server, otherwise you can use will find game more fun and enjoyable picking a race you like. Many things are possible with skill and great teammates...just don't pick orc ;) ...kidding... o:)
  • starkerealm
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    Hilariously, Argonians are a very strong racial pick for a lot of builds.

    Stepping back from that for a moment, though, some elements of the community vastly overstate the value of your race on gameplay. It's marginally relevant in PvP, and group vet content. But, even then it's more of a, "you'd be slightly more effective as this race," not, "you must be this tall to ride this role."

    The simple reasoning is, very few players operate at a level where the racial bonuses really matter. Yes, everyone can enjoy some extra stam damage and tankiness as an Imperial, or some magicka and spell damage as an Altmer, but it's not really enough to matter. Not in the way a lot of players seem to think, anyway.

    What's happened is we've got a lot of edge case players, who aren't quite good enough to pull their weight, and, somehow, they've gotten it into their head that the right racial bonuses are all they need to close the gap. They're wrong, and when they're proven wrong, the then tend to accuse everyone around them of their failure, because those players aren't using "optimal" racial picks.

    So, no, your character's race really doesn't matter.
  • richo262
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    Casual players not really.

    However, do some foresight with it. Some races are mag related, some races are stam related. Just get that part right.

    It won't ruin your toon to get it wrong, but it would just be foolish to make an Orc that focuses on Magicka. Whereas an Alt or Bret would have been much wiser.
  • starkerealm
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    richo262 wrote: »
    Casual players not really.

    However, do some foresight with it. Some races are mag related, some races are stam related. Just get that part right.

    It won't ruin your toon to get it wrong, but it would just be foolish to make an Orc that focuses on Magicka. Whereas an Alt or Bret would have been much wiser.

    Hey, @Ghettokid, you want to orc somebody?

    But, seriously, I've got two Breton stam builds, used to have three.

    The trick with races is, there is some off-spec value that isn't always immediately apparent. For example, Bretons can make useful Stam characters because of their spell resist, and if they have any utility powers that are fueled off Magicka. For example, a Breton Stamsorc will still get value from Dark Deal and Surge. A Breton Stamblade is probably going to be slotting cloak, and/or Mark Target. They don't scale with magicka, but they do benefit from the cost discounts. And, Breton Stamblades can be aggravatingly slippery in PvP.
  • wolfxspice
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    for casual play, not really, but i feel its worth mentioning that my friend switched from argonian to high elf recently on her magblade, she gained 7k+ on her parces and she has better sustain. so for end game content, you really need to think about it.
    I'm a casual now
  • Cardhwion
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    Gromgok wrote: »
    Hey guys,

    I'm considering making a magicka-based Templar (I think I got that right) mainly for solo PvE content, maybe some light group content. Certainly nothing high-end. Does it really matter what race I go with, or should I just go with what I like for this level of play?

    Thanks!

    I have an Imperial Magicka Templar, and nope, it does not matter in casual play. The race/class combos fall definitely in the min/max End-game logic, where they do indeed matter. In casual play you can make a Nord Mage and get away with it.
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  • Keldheir
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    For casual solo pve race doesn't matter at all. I have wood elfs that are magicka sorcerer and magicka nightblades and high elfs that are stamina dragonknights and they are doing just fine. The wood elf magsorc was even able to solo a group dungeon. Sure, my best-choice-races do a lot better but in the end you have to play what you like to play not what's best to play.
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  • TheShadowScout
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    Gromgok wrote: »
    Casual play - Does race matter?
    Not at all.

    Only the min-maxxers care about race.
    Only those chasing perfect PvP wins or leaderboard scores need those last percentage points of super-effectiveness.

    Everyone else can enjoy the game with ANY combination... and yes, I do mean "any" - argonian dragonknights, nord sorcerors, dunmer nightblades, orc templars, etc.; it all gets you through any normal content once you learn how to drive the class, and often is way more fun then the super-effective combinations facerolling through every fight...

    Even the "magica-favored / stamina favored" selection is not set in stone, you can make orc magica characters or altmer stamina characters and still have a good casual time in tamriel.
  • Alex_Lex
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    I play casual and do it a lot.

    I have 28 playable toons, 26 (almost 27) are level50. All races, all classes. At least 8 toons maxed all weapon and personal skills, I have done Wwarden-fell like 18 times, 20+ caltrops and so on.

    Yesterday I easily doued and then almost soloed (another player joined) 2 different world bosses by the toons with training set, who miss some passives, who has secondary bar for weapons and skills to grow so almost unusable (like if you have restostaff with DW&2H skills).

    If you are not after leaderboard go on playing as you like.

    Race doesn't really that matter.
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  • zaria
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    richo262 wrote: »
    Casual players not really.

    However, do some foresight with it. Some races are mag related, some races are stam related. Just get that part right.

    It won't ruin your toon to get it wrong, but it would just be foolish to make an Orc that focuses on Magicka. Whereas an Alt or Bret would have been much wiser.
    An altmer has an 10% dps bonus over say an nord as an magic build.
    If your nord sorcerer does 20k dps the altmer would do 22K.
    The altmer would have an easier time getting into an veteran trial group who typically demand 25-35K dps the Nord would need to be an better player / better gear.

    So you select an Altmer sorcerer, half a year later Altmer get nerfed down to an 5% benefit and worse magic sorcerer also get nerfed, on the other hand stamina sorc got an strong buff :)

    In short don't select an race you don't like for min max reasons, if lucky it end as an bank alt.
    But if you want an magic sorcerer or templar healer and want either an Altmer or Bosmer go for the Altmer.
    Grinding just make you go in circles.
    Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.
  • Banana
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    No. Whichever one you like
  • LadyNalcarya
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    It doesnt matter that much. In terms of dps, you gear and especially rotation means more. In terms of healing and tanking its all about how well you can manage your resources and buffs/debuffs... Your lizard magplar will be pretty decent for healing, for example. :)
    Theres a lot of players who have perfect race/class combos and are useless in group content, and vice versa. So unless you want to be in, lets say, top 5% of dds, dont bother about "perfect" race if you dont like that race and want to play something else.
    Edited by LadyNalcarya on August 6, 2017 12:19PM
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  • CyrusArya
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    The lizard guy is the best race for a templar in PvP and also the best for a healer spec anywhere, so you're gonna have the best race wether you like it or not!
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  • Keep_Door
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    No
  • Saturnana
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    My Bosmer is a Stamina DK, and her passives should give me some advantage.. but I don't feel it. xD The other way around I have a Khajiit Magicka Templar (also a popular race for stamina characters) but I don't feel the disadvantage there either. Doesn't make the slightest bit of difference to me. :)
    Edited by Saturnana on August 6, 2017 12:43PM
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  • Ghettokid
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    Orc matters
  • WeyounTM
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    This one has tried to play as some of the more cooler races but always came back to being a Khajiit. And most of my toons are of the magicka variety. It is far more enjoyable to leave the min-maxing attitude behind and rejoice in a character you really can identify with.
    So thumbs up for all those who play non-"meta" races <3<3
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  • zaria
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    WeyounTM wrote: »
    This one has tried to play as some of the more cooler races but always came back to being a Khajiit. And most of my toons are of the magicka variety. It is far more enjoyable to leave the min-maxing attitude behind and rejoice in a character you really can identify with.
    So thumbs up for all those who play non-"meta" races <3<3
    Khajiit is always an safe choice.

    Grinding just make you go in circles.
    Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.
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    Im more hardcore player i tried casual race a altmer stam sorc and the amount i gimped myself was pretty harsh on my bosmer storc i got 17.3k hp and 33k stam and 1800 rec

    On my altmer i had 17k hp 28k stam and 980 rec it was playable but man did it make theworld of difference in vma and some trials not saying a non ideal race couldnt do it but the stat gap killed me
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