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crowfl56
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This latest event is crazy, it could have been an awesome event but ooops someone forgot that this game already has major issue's in cyrodil.

But, as far as populations go, 1 faction has 3 times the amount of players to call on, although it takes that many for them to do anything, and one guild constantly rolls them on any server, thank you Dig members.

I would be embarassed as a faction that it needs soooooo many players for you to do anything in pvp, but it is fun smushing them :)
  • Diminish
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    What platform you on?
  • geonsocal
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    turns out there's a lot more going on behind the scenes in regard to player manipulation of cyrodiil populations than I ever suspected...

    I don't think any of us really had any clear idea of exactly what a "bar" constituted value wise...

    turns out there are ways to inflate/lock out enemy faction populations...

    ca - ray - zee...
    Edited by geonsocal on July 30, 2017 9:09PM
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  • Tasear
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    Can't help it the best characters are from AD. B)
  • Ghettokid
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    Yeah well EP has always been full of skyrim fanboys running ugly nords or people playing some twisted slavegames with argonian and dunmer. They just run in Cyrodiil like headless chickens. Kinda cute.
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    Ghettokid wrote: »
    Yeah well EP has always been full of skyrim fanboys running ugly nords or people playing some twisted slavegames with argonian and dunmer. They just run in Cyrodiil like headless chickens. Kinda cute.

    Can confirm. Have several Dunmer characters. Have an Argonian slave.
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  • Ghettokid
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    DisgracefulMind wrote: »
    Ghettokid wrote: »
    Yeah well EP has always been full of skyrim fanboys running ugly nords or people playing some twisted slavegames with argonian and dunmer. They just run in Cyrodiil like headless chickens. Kinda cute.

    Can confirm. Have several Dunmer characters. Have an Argonian slave.
    Do you ever wanna include Orc in those games? Asking for a friend.

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    What I fail to comprehend is so many ppl talking about Skyrim as it is something disgraceful, a piece of trash or something. What is wrong with Skyrim?
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    Enslaved wrote: »
    What I fail to comprehend is so many ppl talking about Skyrim as it is something disgraceful, a piece of trash or something. What is wrong with Skyrim?

    It's the future...and people are stuck living in the past... :'(
  • Drdeath20
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    I joined a buff campaign bcz i work weird hours. Usually when i jump on the populations are fairly even. Ive tried other campaigns but by the time i get on my alliance is soo outnumbered and full of casual individual players.

    I dont need to win every fight but its just no fun getting insta merkes all night
  • disintegr8
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    Ghettokid wrote: »
    Yeah well EP has always been full of skyrim fanboys running ugly nords or people playing some twisted slavegames with argonian and dunmer. They just run in Cyrodiil like headless chickens. Kinda cute.
    Not sure what platform you are on but I've been running 2 toons during the event, one in Kyne, the other in Sotha Sil (both EP) and I can certainly say that they are vastly different campaigns (PS4 NA).

    I'll agree with you're headless chicken comment on Kyne, EP running around here and there with very little co-ordination and too much infighting to actually accomplish much in the long run. I have leveled 3 or 4 characters through Kyne and it has been this way for several months now.

    Things are very different in Sotha Sil. This is my first venture into this campaign, so not sure if it is the norm, but EP seem to be very much under control. Very little unnecessary text chat banter, groups going from place to place to help attack or defend as the need arises. Sure, they currently own the map right now, but it is a different EP to what is on Kyne.

    Not being a mainstream PVP'er, I have characters in all alliances so don't favor one over the others. Put me up for crucifixion if you like, but it is only a game.
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  • Ghettokid
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    disintegr8 wrote: »
    Ghettokid wrote: »
    Yeah well EP has always been full of skyrim fanboys running ugly nords or people playing some twisted slavegames with argonian and dunmer. They just run in Cyrodiil like headless chickens. Kinda cute.
    Not sure what platform you are on but I've been running 2 toons during the event, one in Kyne, the other in Sotha Sil (both EP) and I can certainly say that they are vastly different campaigns (PS4 NA).

    I'll agree with you're headless chicken comment on Kyne, EP running around here and there with very little co-ordination and too much infighting to actually accomplish much in the long run. I have leveled 3 or 4 characters through Kyne and it has been this way for several months now.

    Things are very different in Sotha Sil. This is my first venture into this campaign, so not sure if it is the norm, but EP seem to be very much under control. Very little unnecessary text chat banter, groups going from place to place to help attack or defend as the need arises. Sure, they currently own the map right now, but it is a different EP to what is on Kyne.

    Not being a mainstream PVP'er, I have characters in all alliances so don't favor one over the others. Put me up for crucifixion if you like, but it is only a game.

    Actually I have no idea how the EP players work together, I was just joking. I only have AD-characters.
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    #BirthControlForAD :D
  • disintegr8
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    Ghettokid wrote: »
    disintegr8 wrote: »
    Ghettokid wrote: »
    Yeah well EP has always been full of skyrim fanboys running ugly nords or people playing some twisted slavegames with argonian and dunmer. They just run in Cyrodiil like headless chickens. Kinda cute.
    Not sure what platform you are on but I've been running 2 toons during the event, one in Kyne, the other in Sotha Sil (both EP) and I can certainly say that they are vastly different campaigns (PS4 NA).

    I'll agree with you're headless chicken comment on Kyne, EP running around here and there with very little co-ordination and too much infighting to actually accomplish much in the long run. I have leveled 3 or 4 characters through Kyne and it has been this way for several months now.

    Things are very different in Sotha Sil. This is my first venture into this campaign, so not sure if it is the norm, but EP seem to be very much under control. Very little unnecessary text chat banter, groups going from place to place to help attack or defend as the need arises. Sure, they currently own the map right now, but it is a different EP to what is on Kyne.

    Not being a mainstream PVP'er, I have characters in all alliances so don't favor one over the others. Put me up for crucifixion if you like, but it is only a game.

    Actually I have no idea how the EP players work together, I was just joking. I only have AD-characters.
    But you were right about Kyne.....maybe just a good guess :) .
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  • GeorgeBlack
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    Meh...
    So people in AD make magsorc with Altmer, stamNBs with Khajit and then make fun of Skyrim lovers?

    So so... w8... you are a lame min/maxer and create a toon for its stats and then you make fun of EP because they play with toons they like from Lore or Tv Series or whatever non min/maxed reason... and then at peak hour you get pushed to spawn by those non min/maxers???

    EP is the strongest.
    AD has morning capping and that's all.
    Edited by GeorgeBlack on July 31, 2017 5:50AM
  • StormWylf
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    geonsocal wrote: »
    turns out there's a lot more going on behind the scenes in regard to player manipulation of cyrodiil populations than I ever suspected...

    I don't think any of us really had any clear idea of exactly what a "bar" constituted value wise...

    turns out there are ways to inflate/lock out enemy faction populations...

    ca - ray - zee...

    I'm not attempting to be a smartass, I am truly interested. But frankly I read this thread a couple of times, and I just don't see any evidence of the types of manipulations you are referring to. Also, I don't know what you are saying when you wrote, "I don't think any of us really had any clear idea of exactly what a "bar" constituted value wise..."
    I did notice that at least on the 7 day servers the populations per side, always seemed unbalanced, but I have no insight as to why with the limited data avalible. If you have some info I wold love to hear it.
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    howdy @StormWylf ...i'll look for the link to the thread which detailed how enemy factions are able to manipulate other faction populations...

    point I was trying to make reference the value of bars indicating current faction population is there is no reference anywhere as to exactly how many players those bars represent...
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  • Shado187
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    StormWylf wrote: »
    geonsocal wrote: »
    turns out there's a lot more going on behind the scenes in regard to player manipulation of cyrodiil populations than I ever suspected...

    I don't think any of us really had any clear idea of exactly what a "bar" constituted value wise...

    turns out there are ways to inflate/lock out enemy faction populations...

    ca - ray - zee...

    I'm not attempting to be a smartass, I am truly interested. But frankly I read this thread a couple of times, and I just don't see any evidence of the types of manipulations you are referring to. Also, I don't know what you are saying when you wrote, "I don't think any of us really had any clear idea of exactly what a "bar" constituted value wise..."
    I did notice that at least on the 7 day servers the populations per side, always seemed unbalanced, but I have no insight as to why with the limited data avalible. If you have some info I wold love to hear it.

    You wont get any info because no one knows anything about cyro population balance but Zeni and they aint saying jack. We have asked many times over the years for a better way to determine population other then the bar that we all know is full of crap. Zeni wont do it or mention it because they know the population balance on some of the cyro campaigns are bad, like really BAD.
    Edited by Shado187 on July 31, 2017 6:28PM
  • Wreuntzylla
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    TequilaFire wrote: »
    #BirthControlForAD :D

    In 2-3 weeks, school will be back in session... Then all good again.
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    Everyone wants to be Dragonborn.

    I used to be hardcore Aldmeri Dominion, but an older me identifies better with Daggerfall Covenant storyline now. I wish I could transfer my main characters' faction :*(
  • geonsocal
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    HELP!!!

    ugh, I can't find it now...

    by any chance, does anyone remember a thread detailing how enemy factions are able to manipulate the system using the grouping tool to inflate/take up space in enemy faction population?

    I remember even Gina had left a comment saying that it was something zos was going to look in to...
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  • vamp_emily
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    Tasear wrote: »
    Can't help it the best characters are from AD. B)

    One thing that bananas ( AD ) have in common is they all get squashy over time.
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    Love the AD fanboy posts in this thread. Yet they get their asses handed to them by us on daily basis should there be a conflict. EP just overall cares less about full on conflicts and PvP drama. Yes we don't own the whole map for the majority of the day, so what? We're not in there 24/7 like children from AD and DC. God forbid we gather a functional group every evening though. All the bananas and blueberries start running and screaming like little girls.
    Edited by Nyladreas on August 1, 2017 2:36AM
  • PsychoROFLit
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    DoShazarr wrote: »
    Love the AD fanboy posts in this thread. Yet they get their asses handes to them by us on daily basis should there be a conflict. EP just overall cares less about full on conflicts and PvP drama. Yes we don't own the whole map for the majority of the day, so what? We're not in there 24/7 like children from AD and DC. God forbid we gather a functional group every evening tho though. All the bananas and bluberries start running and screaming like little girls.

    damn yeah!
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    @StormWylf ...

    here ya go: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/334876/daggerfall-covenant-queuing-into-aldmeri-dominion-servers-as-aldmeri-dominion-tying-up-our-server/p1
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  • vamp_emily
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    DoShazarr wrote: »
    Love the AD fanboy posts in this thread. Yet they get their asses handes to them by us on daily basis should there be a conflict. EP just overall cares less about full on conflicts and PvP drama. Yes we don't own the whole map for the majority of the day, so what? We're not in there 24/7 like children from AD and DC. God forbid we gather a functional group every evening tho though. All the bananas and bluberries start running and screaming like little girls.

    AD - Squashy
    DC - Hardcore
    EP - Free AP

    I always laugh when EP brings a bridge fight to Ales farm, don't they know we blow up bridges? We are trained zerg killers.

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  • Malmai
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    EP is gettin rekt by AD and DC these two have pact so when they kill all EPs than they kill each others. And wearing plugs out of thier butts connected to TS and goin in zergs with bombers debuff tanks and tryharding like hell...
    Edited by Malmai on July 31, 2017 6:56PM
  • PsychoROFLit
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    Malmai wrote: »
    EP is gettin rekt by AD and DC these two have pact so when they kill all EPs than they kill each others. And wearing plugs out of thier butts connected to TS and goin in zergs with bombers debuff tanks and tryharding like hell...

    well, during this event on some servers where EP was doing anything - DC and AD sux, so... And they're still sux on nocp camp... so...
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    Malmai wrote: »
    EP is gettin rekt by AD and DC these two have pact so when they kill all EPs than they kill each others. And wearing plugs out of thier butts connected to TS and goin in zergs with bombers debuff tanks and tryharding like hell...

    If on US NA server: sorry, you don't really know what you're talking about. I'm AD, and I spent the entire event watching our groups getting sandwiched between DC and EP constantly. DC and EP did fight each other quite a bit, but both of them took every chance they could to try steamrolling AD.

    As far as I can tell, there were no secret "pacts" to gang up on one faction. Everyone was against everyone.
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    provincials :)
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  • Megabear
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    vamp_emily wrote: »

    AD - Squashy
    DC - Hardcore
    EP - Free AP

    Can confirm on PC NA
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