When are we going to address this BS with fear?

Malamar1229 · July 2017

Can't even small scale on Kastav without this cheeseball EP emp abusing a fear bug. I am personally tired of people shrugging their shoulders like they don't know they're doing it and disrupting my game time.

It's funny the same scenario....he pops in an immov pot, surprise attack ,destro ultimate and fear. Each time, my friends and I are stuck in place unable to move. 15k stamina, can't roll dodge or break free. His response to me? "CC is bugged."

I am build defensively and have no issues having multiple people attacking me. But this particular player, every single time.....it's a 1 and done deal with no room for any counterplay.

Please for the love God, look into this deal.

Malic · July 2017

*shrugs shoulders*

Vapirko · July 2017

This issue has been up in the forums again and again. It happens with getting knocked to the group as well, you simply can't get up until your player decides to, as if you were out of stam. ZOS hasn't even acknowledged it.

RinaldoGandolphi · July 2017

The animation on fear needs to be changed. The current animation is too clunky and is buggy making it unbreakable often. That much for certain.

there reallly should be a damage threshold on fear...say after taking 4K damage it automatically breaks regardless this means you get one free unblocked attack on someone not this unloading multiple attacks nonsense we have now

But until then I'll continue to Mercilesd Bow, Soul Harvest, impale people who are feared with no chance to defend themselves...because that's balanced game play...

zyk · July 2017

I never encounter this bug and as a fear spammer, I can tell you that most good opponents break it almost immediately.

BraidasNM · July 2017

zyk wrote: »

I never encounter this bug and as a fear spammer, I can tell you that most good opponents break it almost immediately.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfmICz56crg

(tho im not saying its intentional, just that clearly it does happen)

bubbygink · July 2017

I've never seen this "bug." Think people just like making excuses for being too slow to break a CC...

Gilvoth · July 2017

zyk wrote: »

I never encounter this bug and as a fear spammer, I can tell you that most good opponents break it almost immediately.

same with me.
i honestly think this is from lagg.
sometimes i get hit with fear and i cant move, or it takes a very long time to break free from it but most of the time it is easily broken free from.
but if the sorcerers don't like it then you can bet it will be removed from us nightblades.

Master_Kas · July 2017

RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »

The animation on fear needs to be changed. The current animation is too clunky and is buggy making it unbreakable often. That much for certain.

there reallly should be a damage threshold on fear...say after taking 4K damage it automatically breaks regardless this means you get one free unblocked attack on someone not this unloading multiple attacks nonsense we have now

But until then I'll continue to Mercilesd Bow, Soul Harvest, impale people who are feared with no chance to defend themselves...because that's balanced game play...

Sure if you make other CC:s break on damage aswell. Why settle with fear only?

Because it's one of the best skills nightblades have to offer?

RinaldoGandolphi · July 2017

Master_Kas wrote: »

RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »

The animation on fear needs to be changed. The current animation is too clunky and is buggy making it unbreakable often. That much for certain.

there reallly should be a damage threshold on fear...say after taking 4K damage it automatically breaks regardless this means you get one free unblocked attack on someone not this unloading multiple attacks nonsense we have now

But until then I'll continue to Mercilesd Bow, Soul Harvest, impale people who are feared with no chance to defend themselves...because that's balanced game play...

Sure if you make other CC:s break on damage aswell. Why settle with fear only? Because it's one of the best skills nightblades have to offer?

I'd actually be fine with other hard cc breaking on a damage threshold as well. Fossilize has a threshold it breaks on, would anyone say it's a bad skill?

RinaldoGandolphi · July 2017

zyk wrote: »

I never encounter this bug and as a fear spammer, I can tell you that most good opponents break it almost immediately.

If you haven't encountered it, you don't pvp enough. You can have full Stam and it will not let you break it while you sit at your keyboard trying to break it while you watch someone kill you.

It's the animation that needs changed. It's buggy. Bradias video is a prime example of why the animation on fear needs to be changed. What happened in that video happened to me 3 times on Friday night in the span of an hour.

This is not to mention the other CC like Javelin and others being broken which Gina admitted they are looking into fixing it

Master_Kas · July 2017

RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »

Master_Kas wrote: »

RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »

The animation on fear needs to be changed. The current animation is too clunky and is buggy making it unbreakable often. That much for certain.

there reallly should be a damage threshold on fear...say after taking 4K damage it automatically breaks regardless this means you get one free unblocked attack on someone not this unloading multiple attacks nonsense we have now

But until then I'll continue to Mercilesd Bow, Soul Harvest, impale people who are feared with no chance to defend themselves...because that's balanced game play...

Sure if you make other CC:s break on damage aswell. Why settle with fear only? Because it's one of the best skills nightblades have to offer?

I'd actually be fine with other hard cc breaking on a damage threshold as well. Fossilize has a threshold it breaks on, would anyone say it's a bad skill?

Then perhaps you should write that other hard cc breaking on damage not just fear. That was my point, not discussing the usefulness of skills that break on damage like fossilize

Or are you strongly against fear for some reason? As far as I know, and I've been playing alot, other CC bugs out as well from time to time.

Most of my opponents usually break free of fear pretty quickly unless its laggy or they was careless with their stam (which people don't like to admit but whine fear is buggy plz nerf)

Edit: I'd be fine with it breaking on damage if other CC:s got the same treatment, and I'm all up for changing the animation aswell. Just don't really want to see it nerfed into oblivion. We all know ZOS doesn't adjust things without destroying them

Brrrofski · July 2017

In all fairness, it's not just fear.

Any CC can do it. It's lag I think.

Fear and frags seem like bad cuplrits because it's a lot harder to see you've been CCed instantly like it is with things like dizzying swing or javelin - you notice them a mile off.

Publius_Scipio · July 2017

I'm a NB and 9 out of 10 times, people break out of my fear in the blink of an eye. I have had enemies that i saw take my fear and have to play out the entire animation. I'm not sure if I caught them out of stam or if it was the bug. I can't confirm.

At the same time I have fought certain NBs and I have fallen victim to not being able to break free from their fear, even with enough stamina in the tank. Maybe it's a stretch to say this, but I think some players are aware of this bug and know how to trigger it. I don't think it occurs as random as we may think.

Edit: BTW, what about that stupid vampire drain cc that now more and more players are crutching on? I know more and more are using it because it is a cc that has a hard one or two second delay before you can break it. And it is prominently used by those in groups.

Asgari · July 2017

I can say I haven't had this issues in a long long time .. sounds like you were either low on stamina or slow to react or latency caused a delay.

Dread_Guy · July 2017

Fear became a non-issue ever since I started running immovable pots

Publius_Scipio · July 2017

Dread_Knight_N7 wrote: »

Fear became a non-issue ever since I started running immovable pots

Which were recently found to be bad for your liver.

DisgracefulMind · July 2017

Publius_Scipio wrote: »

I'm a NB and 9 out of 10 times, people break out of my fear in the blink of an eye. I have had enemies that i saw take my fear and have to play out the entire animation. I'm not sure if I caught them out of stam or if it was the bug. I can't confirm.

At the same time I have fought certain NBs and I have fallen victim to not being able to break free from their fear, even with enough stamina in the tank. Maybe it's a stretch to say this, but I think some players are aware of this bug and know how to trigger it. I don't think it occurs as random as we may think.

Edit: BTW, what about that stupid vampire drain cc that now more and more players are crutching on? I know more and more are using it because it is a cc that has a hard one or two second delay before you can break it. And it is prominently used by those in groups.

I get perma-CC'd by vamp drain a lot /: Sitting there with more than enough stam to CC break and can't do anything to break it, it's really annoying.

As for fear, I think everyone has dealt with unbreakable fear before. It's been happening for so long. CC in this game IS very bugged. Can get perma-CC'd by so many things; javelin being a huge example as well.

Beardimus · July 2017

CC is broken and has been for some time. Stamina players enough being OP with it, so nothing will be done. But FEAR, in particular, in it's current state is ridiculous.

Darlgon · July 2017

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/4367486#Comment_4367486

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Thanks @Ch4mpTW, these issues <edited to add: issues are with CC immunity not working> are on our radar and is something we want to fix. We have some improvements coming in the next couple updates that should help with this.

That would include fear.

Trinity_Is_My_Name · July 2017

Interesting. I haven't experienced this yet but then again I play in CP campaigns and have quite a few points in Break Free and other areas to help.

I have noticed there seems to be a "minimum threshold" level to break free in certain circumstances. Seems like 5K Stamina minimum but some cases 10K. Just my observations during game play. In PVE I think 10K stamina minimum is needed to break free from bosses CC's and Fear.

zyk · July 2017

RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »

zyk wrote: »

I never encounter this bug and as a fear spammer, I can tell you that most good opponents break it almost immediately.

If you haven't encountered it, you don't pvp enough. You can have full Stam and it will not let you break it while you sit at your keyboard trying to break it while you watch someone kill you.

It's the animation that needs changed. It's buggy. Bradias video is a prime example of why the animation on fear needs to be changed. What happened in that video happened to me 3 times on Friday night in the span of an hour.

This is not to mention the other CC like Javelin and others being broken which Gina admitted they are looking into fixing it

I have PVP'd plenty, thanks. Especially during the event. I stop to fight the procblades between objectives (in my vd bomb gear with no sustain of any kind) and get feared constantly.

I have PVP'd enough that every CC has bugged out on me. Furthermore, this game has resource bar desyncs that can come into play.

IMO, the easiest CCs to break are the one with a knockback because the camera movement is so obvious. Fear is less obvious and I think that's a reason it gets singled out.

Malamar1229 · July 2017

BraidasNM wrote: »

zyk wrote: »

I never encounter this bug and as a fear spammer, I can tell you that most good opponents break it almost immediately.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfmICz56crg

(tho im not saying its intentional, just that clearly it does happen)

He's a troll.
I have zero issues breaking CC the instant I am hit with it.

zyk · July 2017

Malamar1229 wrote: »

He's a troll.
I have zero issues breaking CC the instant I am hit with it.

Uh, no. I'm sharing my experience. Is Asgari a troll too?

It's called getting ZOS'd. It can happen with any CC.

rimmidimdim · August 2017

Well if a NB can't use fear, there is no point playing a NB in PvP. Pick new class? The skill is broken. But I know I've had hate mail about this bugging out, it does happen, but I'm not a cheater, sorry. Other CC's bug out too. But I've also had hate mail about it knowing that they just ran out of stamina and are mad. I also have to cast fear twice or three times just to work sometimes. If you die to a bug, don't be so salty, we all die to bugs, bar swapping ect. It's a big open world mess, crazy shite is going to happen all the time. Cheers.