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Why lock the house motifs behind thieving when half of vivec and balmora are still locked? rant
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OtisMiller✭✭✭The outrage over multiple people farming others is astounding. Almost a "why are these other people playing my MMO" mentality. You can still farm Orcish throne recipes from the 10 or so nobles in Orsinium, even with other people doing the same thing. These motifs will (allegedly) drop from any NPC in Vvardenfell, you all are making this a much bigger deal than it needs to be...0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭OtisMiller wrote: »The outrage over multiple people farming others is astounding. Almost a "why are these other people playing my MMO" mentality. You can still farm Orcish throne recipes from the 10 or so nobles in Orsinium, even with other people doing the same thing. These motifs will (allegedly) drop from any NPC in Vvardenfell, you all are making this a much bigger deal than it needs to be...
That's not the problem, the problem is that these motifs should be locked behind dailies since this expansion barely has any for an expansion. As suggested thieving in morrowind needs to be improved by increasing furnishings drop rates and opening up all the locked buildinga in morrowind.0 -
OtisMiller✭✭✭We need more dailies in Wrothgar and Hew's Bane too then. Oh, and we also need more dailies in Auridon, Glenumbra, and every other zone. There simply aren't enough dailies and most people do the 5-7 quests to advance the storyline, they hardly spend any time in those zones!0
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✭✭✭✭✭OtisMiller wrote: »We need more dailies in Wrothgar and Hew's Bane too then. Oh, and we also need more dailies in Auridon, Glenumbra, and every other zone. There simply aren't enough dailies and most people do the 5-7 quests to advance the storyline, they hardly spend any time in those zones!
No we dont. They have the right amount of quests for being dlc yet wrothgar has about the same amount of content as a full expansion as morrowind... if this isn't your first mmo then you'd know morrowind is lacking in content.0 -
OtisMiller✭✭✭OtisMiller wrote: »We need more dailies in Wrothgar and Hew's Bane too then. Oh, and we also need more dailies in Auridon, Glenumbra, and every other zone. There simply aren't enough dailies and most people do the 5-7 quests to advance the storyline, they hardly spend any time in those zones!
No we dont. They have the right amount of quests for being dlc yet wrothgar has about the same amount of content as a full expansion as morrowind... if this isn't your first mmo then you'd know morrowind is lacking in content.
Vvardenfell has a delve and WB daily (same as Wrothgar more than Hew's Bane), two public dungeons (same as Wrothgar, more than Hew's Bane), a 10 hour or so main storline (same as Wrothgar, longer than Hew's Bane). If you want to get hung up on the whole "chapter" vs "DLC" debate so be it, but that's not what this thread is about.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭"He goes to Vivec city for the pickpockets. He says it's the only love he ever gets." -- said by some random bandit I'm sure.All I know is the citizens of Tamriel had it ROUGH during this time period... LOL
I know, we are all these immortal soul-less killers just cleaning them out and cleaning their clocks - we vestiges are the real OP villains in Tamriel.#FiteForYourRite Bosmer = Stealth
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Aliyavana✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭OtisMiller wrote: »OtisMiller wrote: »We need more dailies in Wrothgar and Hew's Bane too then. Oh, and we also need more dailies in Auridon, Glenumbra, and every other zone. There simply aren't enough dailies and most people do the 5-7 quests to advance the storyline, they hardly spend any time in those zones!
No we dont. They have the right amount of quests for being dlc yet wrothgar has about the same amount of content as a full expansion as morrowind... if this isn't your first mmo then you'd know morrowind is lacking in content.
Vvardenfell has a delve and WB daily (same as Wrothgar more than Hew's Bane), two public dungeons (same as Wrothgar, more than Hew's Bane), a 10 hour or so main storline (same as Wrothgar, longer than Hew's Bane). If you want to get hung up on the whole "chapter" vs "DLC" debate so be it, but that's not what this thread is about.
Being that it's my thread yes it is, "There is no reason to go back to morrowind's quest hubs after you are done questing there. The only reason to go back to morrowind now is for daily quests for the ashlander and morag tong motifs and that's all. Please add daily quests in sandrith mora for telvanni motifs, balmora for redoran motifs, and hlaalu motif quests in seyda neen." Being the lack of content in said quest hubs2 -
Chantclaire✭✭✭I hate the fact that it is thieving for these motifs. It'll be a fight to pickpocket an npc, and if you don't have ledgermain...your're screwed.Everyone has a plan, until their plan gets nerfed
Apparently the only Stamplar left on PC EU0 -
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This is right, an npc can be pickpocket by multiple, an load screen as the thief guilds always have will reset this so you can return and continue pickpocket.thatlaurachick wrote: »SantieClaws wrote: »
Also the killing of the subject when the pockets they are empty. This is helpful to yourself yes but not so helpful to others around who may not yet have cleaned the relevant pocket completely - please do consider this.
No, the person remains an "empty" container. I've seen it happen when 2 people were pickpocketing the same NPC, multiple times, as recently as last night.
Please DO kill after empty. NPC will respawn full much faster.
Also, this request is a little hypocritical coming from Santie, who has always gotten defensive in the "please don't leave trash in nodes and chests" threads, insisting she will never take what she doesn't want. :eyeroll:
Killing the target forces all to wait for respawn, this typical take longer than an visit to TG and you don't risk the bounty for killing.
Grinding just make you go in circles.
Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.0 -
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This is right, an npc can be pickpocket by multiple, an load screen as the thief guilds always have will reset this so you can return and continue pickpocket.thatlaurachick wrote: »SantieClaws wrote: »
Also the killing of the subject when the pockets they are empty. This is helpful to yourself yes but not so helpful to others around who may not yet have cleaned the relevant pocket completely - please do consider this.
No, the person remains an "empty" container. I've seen it happen when 2 people were pickpocketing the same NPC, multiple times, as recently as last night.
Please DO kill after empty. NPC will respawn full much faster.
Also, this request is a little hypocritical coming from Santie, who has always gotten defensive in the "please don't leave trash in nodes and chests" threads, insisting she will never take what she doesn't want. :eyeroll:
Killing the target forces all to wait for respawn, this typical take longer than an visit to TG and you don't risk the bounty for killing.
Grinding just make you go in circles.
Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.0 -
OtisMiller✭✭✭OtisMiller wrote: »OtisMiller wrote: »We need more dailies in Wrothgar and Hew's Bane too then. Oh, and we also need more dailies in Auridon, Glenumbra, and every other zone. There simply aren't enough dailies and most people do the 5-7 quests to advance the storyline, they hardly spend any time in those zones!
No we dont. They have the right amount of quests for being dlc yet wrothgar has about the same amount of content as a full expansion as morrowind... if this isn't your first mmo then you'd know morrowind is lacking in content.
Vvardenfell has a delve and WB daily (same as Wrothgar more than Hew's Bane), two public dungeons (same as Wrothgar, more than Hew's Bane), a 10 hour or so main storline (same as Wrothgar, longer than Hew's Bane). If you want to get hung up on the whole "chapter" vs "DLC" debate so be it, but that's not what this thread is about.
Being that it's my thread yes it is, "There is no reason to go back to morrowind's quest hubs after you are done questing there. The only reason to go back to morrowind now is for daily quests for the ashlander and morag tong motifs and that's all. Please add daily quests in sandrith mora for telvanni motifs, balmora for redoran motifs, and hlaalu motif quests in seyda neen." Being the lack of content in said quest hubs
Why aren't you up in arms about adding more content to Wrothgar or Hew's Bane then? Or any other zone for that matter? It seems more like you don't want to pickpocket, so you're using the "lack of content" (which is the same as other DLCs), to make it easier for yourself to get the motifs.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭OtisMiller wrote: »OtisMiller wrote: »OtisMiller wrote: »We need more dailies in Wrothgar and Hew's Bane too then. Oh, and we also need more dailies in Auridon, Glenumbra, and every other zone. There simply aren't enough dailies and most people do the 5-7 quests to advance the storyline, they hardly spend any time in those zones!
No we dont. They have the right amount of quests for being dlc yet wrothgar has about the same amount of content as a full expansion as morrowind... if this isn't your first mmo then you'd know morrowind is lacking in content.
Vvardenfell has a delve and WB daily (same as Wrothgar more than Hew's Bane), two public dungeons (same as Wrothgar, more than Hew's Bane), a 10 hour or so main storline (same as Wrothgar, longer than Hew's Bane). If you want to get hung up on the whole "chapter" vs "DLC" debate so be it, but that's not what this thread is about.
Being that it's my thread yes it is, "There is no reason to go back to morrowind's quest hubs after you are done questing there. The only reason to go back to morrowind now is for daily quests for the ashlander and morag tong motifs and that's all. Please add daily quests in sandrith mora for telvanni motifs, balmora for redoran motifs, and hlaalu motif quests in seyda neen." Being the lack of content in said quest hubs
Why aren't you up in arms about adding more content to Wrothgar or Hew's Bane then? Or any other zone for that matter? It seems more like you don't want to pickpocket, so you're using the "lack of content" (which is the same as other DLCs), to make it easier for yourself to get the motifs.
I just told you several times that I payed and got my money worth for minor dlc for wrothgar and hews bane which are MINOR DLC. Older non dlc zones I payed and got my money's worth as well and morrowind being an EXPANSION I expect more...
You can think what you want, I enjoy pickpocketing and I have black market mogul to show I do... however I enjoy questing as well and morrowind needs more of it and thieving in it needs improvements in other ways which I have provided suggestions in my op.Edited by Aliyavana on July 27, 2017 4:26PM0 -
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✭✭✭LadyNalcarya wrote: »This is a very bad idea imo. (just to clarify - I mean the pickpocket-exclusive motifs ^^, I really hope ZOS would change that)
It just pits the players against each other (since every npc can only carry up to 3 items and they have a respawn timer), and cospses everywhere dont really add any immersion.
You do realize chesting already pits players against each other that chestings been out since day 1?0 -
Ardan147✭✭✭✭"He goes to Vivec city for the pickpockets. He says it's the only love he ever gets." -- said by some random bandit I'm sure.All I know is the citizens of Tamriel had it ROUGH during this time period... LOL
I know, we are all these immortal soul-less killers just cleaning them out and cleaning their clocks - we vestiges are the real OP villains in Tamriel.
Maybe the people of Tamriel would have just been better off under Molag Bal's rule after all.This creature called a songbird. What a devious creation! This winged nuisance erodes sanity with its incessant chirping. What a brilliant form of torture!0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭I agree, we shouldn't be forced to steal, I hate the fact this game wants everyone to be a thief. What happened to it being a MMORPG? Instead of a MMOMSG (Massive multiplayer Online Murder Steal Game)
It's still a MMORPG, just a Massively Multiplayer Over-the-top Robbing and Pillaging Game
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More seriously, I agree with you. I don't like all the emphasis on thieving, assassinating, and trespassing in Morrowind - or, more accurately, my law-abiding Templar doesn't like it and probably won't bother with most of Morrowind. Then again, there was the last festival event where you couldn't complete all the quests and get the achievement without thieving.
Thieving and assassinating etc are fine, I have no problem with those aspects of a TES game and I enjoy them on most of my characters - but there should always be alternative ways of progressing such a quest unless you are specifically doing it for the Thieves Guild or Dark Brotherhood.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Kyle1983b14_ESO wrote: »
I like thieving, I will farm and sell them while prices are high but I'm dissapointed from a to perspective that there is no house dailies for these motifs0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Why Add more items to thieving when you can't even open up the locked doors in vvardenfell?1
