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WTF Happened to "CC Immunity"?

  • Ch4mpTW
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    Aisle9 wrote: »
    Sharee wrote: »
    Aisle9 wrote: »
    Ch4mpTW wrote: »
    Aisle9 wrote: »
    You don't break free, therefore no CC immunity

    L2BF

    How could I...? I was lagging horribly. Damn, I swear you ZOS fanboys will defend anything. No matter how blatantly obvious something is broken.

    I'm not defending anything, just explaining how it works.

    Is your argument that if you're lagging you should be immune to the game core mechanics ?
    Everyone is lagging, and everyone is having the same problems.

    In your video you don't break free, but ask to be CC immune. It doesn't work like that, and you can be double CCed if you don't break free from the first one.

    Would be cause to grief if you did break free, but did not get the CC immunity, like it happened to many people (myself included). I would never, nor I ever did, defend that.

    Have a good day.


    No, his argument is that he should be given CC immunity after a hard CC on him expires, regardless of whether he breaks free or not, and he is right, that is how it is supposed to work.

    The hard CC didn't expire, therefore, no CC immunity.

    I'm not sure where you play, but down here you can chain hard CCs in rapid succession as long as you do before the previous one expire.

    I'm not saying it should work like that, and I do agree it's BS, but it's how it works, and it's been like this for a while now.

    What? Where do they do that at? Where do you play, where it is considered normal to chain hard-CC's? First of all, are you aware of what you're saying? Chaining hard-CC's in succession? So chaining things like: Mass Hysteria, Fossilize, etc. in succession? That's nightmare fuel. As is, getting double Dizzying Swinged into the air is obnoxious. As is getting constantly gimped from javelins and C-Frags. All hard-CC's in rapid succession...?

    N'ah. ESO has evolved far too much to my disliking then, if what I have experienced recently is considered the "norm". Hell no. I want 0 parts to that. I already can't stand the CC mechanics of Halls of Fabrication. And if that type of bs is going to be everywhere, in PvP and other forms of PvE content? I'll just take myself elsewhere.
  • Aisle9
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    Ch4mpTW wrote: »
    Aisle9 wrote: »
    Sharee wrote: »
    Aisle9 wrote: »
    Ch4mpTW wrote: »
    Aisle9 wrote: »
    You don't break free, therefore no CC immunity

    L2BF

    How could I...? I was lagging horribly. Damn, I swear you ZOS fanboys will defend anything. No matter how blatantly obvious something is broken.

    I'm not defending anything, just explaining how it works.

    Is your argument that if you're lagging you should be immune to the game core mechanics ?
    Everyone is lagging, and everyone is having the same problems.

    In your video you don't break free, but ask to be CC immune. It doesn't work like that, and you can be double CCed if you don't break free from the first one.

    Would be cause to grief if you did break free, but did not get the CC immunity, like it happened to many people (myself included). I would never, nor I ever did, defend that.

    Have a good day.


    No, his argument is that he should be given CC immunity after a hard CC on him expires, regardless of whether he breaks free or not, and he is right, that is how it is supposed to work.

    The hard CC didn't expire, therefore, no CC immunity.

    I'm not sure where you play, but down here you can chain hard CCs in rapid succession as long as you do before the previous one expire.

    I'm not saying it should work like that, and I do agree it's BS, but it's how it works, and it's been like this for a while now.

    What? Where do they do that at? Where do you play, where it is considered normal to chain hard-CC's? First of all, are you aware of what you're saying? Chaining hard-CC's in succession? So chaining things like: Mass Hysteria, Fossilize, etc. in succession? That's nightmare fuel. As is, getting double Dizzying Swinged into the air is obnoxious. As is getting constantly gimped from javelins and C-Frags. All hard-CC's in rapid succession...?

    N'ah. ESO has evolved far too much to my disliking then, if what I have experienced recently is considered the "norm". Hell no. I want 0 parts to that. I already can't stand the CC mechanics of Halls of Fabrication. And if that type of bs is going to be everywhere, in PvP and other forms of PvE content? I'll just take myself elsewhere.

    I'm not sure what you're asking, but I've been playing in Cyrodiil and Battlegrounds, and getting double stunned is pretty much business as usual. I'm all out of columbines because I popped immovable pots like candies these days (which only work 80% of the times).

    As for PvE, you should try to cap a resource alone and see what the NPCs do to you. One time one of the guards hit me with dizzying swing, the sorc on the tower with frags, one of the DKs with fossilize and finally dizzying swing again, all before I could break free once.

    I'm sorry I'm not as angry as you are.

    I have been, now I'm playing around it.

    It's not like PvP is going to receive any kind of love any time soon, so...

    Edited by Aisle9 on July 25, 2017 6:29AM
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  • Xsorus
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    Its broken right now, I'm getting hit twice by CC left and right in PvP.

    Hell I was knocked up twice in a row today by Dizzying Swing right after popping my Immovable pot...so i know its broken.
  • crobarXIII
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    This just happened to me the other day, I was hit by 3 spears in a row. I broke free from the first spear only to be knocked down 2 more times by the following 2 spears unable to break free. It's also happened in the past with multiple spears or meteors. When it happened with meteors I was on a tank, blocking with about 70% stamina but the game decided I wasn't blocking & I went flying twice unable to break free.
    Edited by crobarXIII on July 25, 2017 6:36AM
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  • itscompton
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    Aisle9 wrote: »
    Sharee wrote: »
    Aisle9 wrote: »
    Ch4mpTW wrote: »
    Aisle9 wrote: »
    You don't break free, therefore no CC immunity

    L2BF

    How could I...? I was lagging horribly. Damn, I swear you ZOS fanboys will defend anything. No matter how blatantly obvious something is broken.

    I'm not defending anything, just explaining how it works.

    Is your argument that if you're lagging you should be immune to the game core mechanics ?
    Everyone is lagging, and everyone is having the same problems.

    In your video you don't break free, but ask to be CC immune. It doesn't work like that, and you can be double CCed if you don't break free from the first one.

    Would be cause to grief if you did break free, but did not get the CC immunity, like it happened to many people (myself included). I would never, nor I ever did, defend that.

    Have a good day.


    No, his argument is that he should be given CC immunity after a hard CC on him expires, regardless of whether he breaks free or not, and he is right, that is how it is supposed to work.

    The hard CC didn't expire, therefore, no CC immunity.

    I'm not sure where you play, but down here you can chain hard CCs in rapid succession as long as you do before the previous one expire.

    I'm not saying it should work like that, and I do agree it's BS, but it's how it works, and it's been like this for a while now.

    Are you dense or being obtuse on purpose? Hard CC's are SUPPOSED to grant immunity upon expiration whether you break free or not. It has always been that way since I started playing on PS4 the week after the game launched on console. They're NOT working correctly at present.

    Edited by itscompton on July 25, 2017 6:36AM
  • Aisle9
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    itscompton wrote: »
    Aisle9 wrote: »
    Sharee wrote: »
    Aisle9 wrote: »
    Ch4mpTW wrote: »
    Aisle9 wrote: »
    You don't break free, therefore no CC immunity

    L2BF

    How could I...? I was lagging horribly. Damn, I swear you ZOS fanboys will defend anything. No matter how blatantly obvious something is broken.

    I'm not defending anything, just explaining how it works.

    Is your argument that if you're lagging you should be immune to the game core mechanics ?
    Everyone is lagging, and everyone is having the same problems.

    In your video you don't break free, but ask to be CC immune. It doesn't work like that, and you can be double CCed if you don't break free from the first one.

    Would be cause to grief if you did break free, but did not get the CC immunity, like it happened to many people (myself included). I would never, nor I ever did, defend that.

    Have a good day.


    No, his argument is that he should be given CC immunity after a hard CC on him expires, regardless of whether he breaks free or not, and he is right, that is how it is supposed to work.

    The hard CC didn't expire, therefore, no CC immunity.

    I'm not sure where you play, but down here you can chain hard CCs in rapid succession as long as you do before the previous one expire.

    I'm not saying it should work like that, and I do agree it's BS, but it's how it works, and it's been like this for a while now.

    Are you dense or being obtuse on purpose? Hard CC's are SUPPOSED to grant immunity upon expiration whether you break free or not. It has always been that way since I started playing on PS4 the week after the game launched on console. They're NOT working correctly at present.

    You can insult me if you want, but doesn't help to convey your point.

    They do UPON EXPIRATION.

    I'm not defending the system, I agree it's broken, but I'm also telling you, this is how it's working right now.

    If you get CCed again, BEFORE the expiration, it will apply. For the sake of accuracy, the duration of a knockdown is 3 seconds, so, during these 3 seconds, another CC can be applied, at least, in my experience.

    Is it broken? Yes.

    Is it BS? Yes

    Is it working like this? Yes

    Hope this helps to clarify my point, even though I thought it was sufficiently clear the first time, apparently it wasn't.

    Have a good day.

    PS - If my point still isn't sufficiently clear, do try to take a resource alone in Cyrodiil, and it will be clear enough.

    Edited by Aisle9 on July 25, 2017 6:47AM
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  • Krayzie
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    I thought they took out CC immunity with homestead patch?

    Not saying it's working the way it it is intendeded.....

    In PVE there is basically no CC immunity, in PVP you may get it in you're lucky
    I'm a PVE roleplayer concerned about my vampires stage 4 skin tone and keep getting load screens so I came here to distract people from major issues with a rant thread about my characters cosmetic appearance.
  • Feanor
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    I don't think it ever worked...
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  • Aisle9
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    Feanor wrote: »
    I don't think it ever worked...

    It used to
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  • Aisle9
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    Aisle9 wrote: »
    Feanor wrote: »
    I don't think it ever worked...

    It used to

    *edit*

    ...kinda

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  • aToken
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    Tbh I think it's beyond any capabilities for any zos employee to fix. It's something they coded in at the beginning. And like all things in this game they literally can't fix with out completely breaking everything around. Best to just cancel ur sub for a month a take a break from the game. Not saying to leave for ever but u sound very frustrated with the whole ordeal. Anyone would be. U absolutely right about the pve portion. I don't think pve cc immunity exist anymore.(a few cases it still does) Whether it was intended or not. The PvP side is just the algarythms being overwhelmed with input from other players. I feel ur pain bro I really do. I left the game a while back for a couple of months. Bdo is ok for a break if u want another mmo. There is a few decent mobas out there as well. I think fallen earth is still free to play and it's similar to eso but post-apocalyptic. Unfortunately it's beyond us players control.
    Edited by aToken on July 25, 2017 6:56AM
  • Sharee
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    Aisle9 wrote: »
    Sharee wrote: »
    Aisle9 wrote: »
    Ch4mpTW wrote: »
    Aisle9 wrote: »
    You don't break free, therefore no CC immunity

    L2BF

    How could I...? I was lagging horribly. Damn, I swear you ZOS fanboys will defend anything. No matter how blatantly obvious something is broken.

    I'm not defending anything, just explaining how it works.

    Is your argument that if you're lagging you should be immune to the game core mechanics ?
    Everyone is lagging, and everyone is having the same problems.

    In your video you don't break free, but ask to be CC immune. It doesn't work like that, and you can be double CCed if you don't break free from the first one.

    Would be cause to grief if you did break free, but did not get the CC immunity, like it happened to many people (myself included). I would never, nor I ever did, defend that.

    Have a good day.


    No, his argument is that he should be given CC immunity after a hard CC on him expires, regardless of whether he breaks free or not, and he is right, that is how it is supposed to work.

    The hard CC didn't expire, therefore, no CC immunity.

    Watch the video closely. At 0:09, he gets hit by a javelin knockback. At 0:10 he recovers, stands up, and even makes a step forward while swapping weapon to a staff. Clearly he was not CC-ed anymore. Then at 0:11, he gets hit by a javelin and knocked back.

    So yes, the CC did expire.

    Edited by Sharee on July 25, 2017 7:19AM
  • Ch4mpTW
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    Aisle9 wrote: »
    Ch4mpTW wrote: »
    Aisle9 wrote: »
    Sharee wrote: »
    Aisle9 wrote: »
    Ch4mpTW wrote: »
    Aisle9 wrote: »
    You don't break free, therefore no CC immunity

    L2BF

    How could I...? I was lagging horribly. Damn, I swear you ZOS fanboys will defend anything. No matter how blatantly obvious something is broken.

    I'm not defending anything, just explaining how it works.

    Is your argument that if you're lagging you should be immune to the game core mechanics ?
    Everyone is lagging, and everyone is having the same problems.

    In your video you don't break free, but ask to be CC immune. It doesn't work like that, and you can be double CCed if you don't break free from the first one.

    Would be cause to grief if you did break free, but did not get the CC immunity, like it happened to many people (myself included). I would never, nor I ever did, defend that.

    Have a good day.


    No, his argument is that he should be given CC immunity after a hard CC on him expires, regardless of whether he breaks free or not, and he is right, that is how it is supposed to work.

    The hard CC didn't expire, therefore, no CC immunity.

    I'm not sure where you play, but down here you can chain hard CCs in rapid succession as long as you do before the previous one expire.

    I'm not saying it should work like that, and I do agree it's BS, but it's how it works, and it's been like this for a while now.

    What? Where do they do that at? Where do you play, where it is considered normal to chain hard-CC's? First of all, are you aware of what you're saying? Chaining hard-CC's in succession? So chaining things like: Mass Hysteria, Fossilize, etc. in succession? That's nightmare fuel. As is, getting double Dizzying Swinged into the air is obnoxious. As is getting constantly gimped from javelins and C-Frags. All hard-CC's in rapid succession...?

    N'ah. ESO has evolved far too much to my disliking then, if what I have experienced recently is considered the "norm". Hell no. I want 0 parts to that. I already can't stand the CC mechanics of Halls of Fabrication. And if that type of bs is going to be everywhere, in PvP and other forms of PvE content? I'll just take myself elsewhere.

    I'm not sure what you're asking, but I've been playing in Cyrodiil and Battlegrounds, and getting double stunned is pretty much business as usual. I'm all out of columbines because I popped immovable pots like candies these days (which only work 80% of the times).

    As for PvE, you should try to cap a resource alone and see what the NPCs do to you. One time one of the guards hit me with dizzying swing, the sorc on the tower with frags, one of the DKs with fossilize and finally dizzying swing again, all before I could break free once.

    I'm sorry I'm not as angry as you are.

    I have been, now I'm playing around it.

    It's not like PvP is going to receive any kind of love any time soon, so...

    I apologize if it seems like I'm angry at you, because I'm not. I can promise you that I'm not. My anger is at ZOS. You are only a player. Just like I. And if you felt wronged by me calling you a fanboy, then I apologize for that. I apologize for calling you out of your name. I just am at my wits end with people who can literally see something broken in front of them, and dismiss it like it's nothing. Or worse, deflect it back to the person making the complaint. And try to spin things to look like the person with the issue is at fault, and or doesn't know what they are talking about. But as you have now recently revealed in your posts, you are aware that things aren't working as they should. And in which case, you aren't 1 of those folks dismissing what is broken.

    It also makes me sad to see people like you who have in a sense gotten used to it. That disturbs me strongly, and really fires me up. How can a developer or big wig at ZOS sit so comfortably, when this stuff is going on? Absolutely insane.
    aToken wrote: »
    Tbh I think it's beyond any capabilities for any zos employee to fix. It's something they coded in at the beginning. And like all things in this game they literally can't fix with out completely breaking everything around. Best to just cancel ur sub for a month a take a break from the game. Not saying to leave for ever but u sound very frustrated with the whole ordeal. Anyone would be. U absolutely right about the pve portion. I don't think pve cc immunity exist anymore.(a few cases it still does) Whether it was intended or not. The PvP side is just the algarythms being overwhelmed with input from other players. I feel ur pain bro I really do. I left the game a while back for a couple of months. Bdo is ok for a break if u want another mmo. There is a few decent mobas out there as well. I think fallen earth is still free to play and it's similar to eso but post-apocalyptic. Unfortunately it's beyond us players control.

    I do think that a lot of things have now grown so big, not even the developers themselves can fix them. It's kinda obvious too when you look at it from multiple perspectives. I mean... If you have the people and tools to fix something, why not go on ahead and do so in a timely fashion? Especially if you know that if you don't, people are going to cancel their subs and move on? Makes no sense.
  • Berenhir
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    Aisle9 wrote: »
    Sharee wrote: »
    Aisle9 wrote: »
    Ch4mpTW wrote: »
    Aisle9 wrote: »
    You don't break free, therefore no CC immunity

    L2BF

    How could I...? I was lagging horribly. Damn, I swear you ZOS fanboys will defend anything. No matter how blatantly obvious something is broken.

    I'm not defending anything, just explaining how it works.

    Is your argument that if you're lagging you should be immune to the game core mechanics ?
    Everyone is lagging, and everyone is having the same problems.

    In your video you don't break free, but ask to be CC immune. It doesn't work like that, and you can be double CCed if you don't break free from the first one.

    Would be cause to grief if you did break free, but did not get the CC immunity, like it happened to many people (myself included). I would never, nor I ever did, defend that.

    Have a good day.


    No, his argument is that he should be given CC immunity after a hard CC on him expires, regardless of whether he breaks free or not, and he is right, that is how it is supposed to work.

    The hard CC didn't expire, therefore, no CC immunity.

    I'm not sure where you play, but down here you can chain hard CCs in rapid succession as long as you do before the previous one expire.

    I'm not saying it should work like that, and I do agree it's BS, but it's how it works, and it's been like this for a while now.

    This. CC Immunity Buff starts running after the whole animation has played or you have broken free. As break free is dependent on lag, everybody frequently experiences the inability to do so. Some CCs like knockback (spear, clench), staggering (I'm looking at you snb DKs) and knockup (meteor trampoline anyone?) can be chained.

    The system is completely broken and needs a complete overhaul to a three status system FOR ALL HARD CC EFFECTS:

    Normal - can be stunned
    Stunned - can't be stunned but applied stun keeps running until break free
    CC immune - can't be stunned
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  • Jitterbug
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    I would be happy if they were brekable at all...
  • RouDeR
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    This is why my favorite playstyle is permablocking tanks , i just dont have to suffer from the 90% of the broken game mechanics .
  • bebynnag
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    you seem surprised that the developers ignore your complaints....

    lmfao
  • Apokalypt
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    I experience the complete opposite. Players in bgs that are permanently immune to cc...
  • redshirt_49
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    How about getting CC'd and break free just straight up doesn't work for 2-3 painfully long seconds? Most of the time, you'll be dead instantly. Especially because some players have begun exploiting the hell out of it.
  • Madrr
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    Not to mention that you can't cc break unstable core anymore..
  • reiverx
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    CC immunity and weapon swapping.

    How can something so simple be so unreliable?
    Edited by reiverx on July 25, 2017 10:50AM
  • Magdalina
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    CC immunity hasn't existed in PvE since Homestead(since the increase to 7 seconds change...lol. "Hey guys, we're increasing this cc immunity...we're also removing it lolol"), whether intended or not remains a mystery as they never mentioned it in being removed in patch notes nor commented on it otherwise, it does somewhat exist in PvP(where you can easily replicate it in 1v1 situations), but it's both buggy and tricky. It doesn't trigger until CC lapses.. Which imo is a mistake, it should trigger as soon as you get CC'd so chain CC is not possible, but instead if you get CC #2 while still under effect from CC #1 you will get fully affected by CC#2. That's how you get ping ponged around by Dizzying Swing(second dizzying swing in the middle of flight from first one, then third in the middle of flight from second one). It kind of looks like what happened to you there too, I think you got Meteor'd before Javelin's cc fully lapsed. Which, while stupid, is how it works. Then yeah, it's super buggy on top of that, I've been CC'd with white swirls around me many, many times.

    Edit: upon closer video examination, you got BOTH Meteor while Javelin CC and then yet another Javelin CC after those expired already. First one was working as intended(just don't ask me why ZOS would intend that. ZOS logic isn't concieveable for us mere mortals), second is a bug/lag. Sounds like a normal PvP day...

    Edited by Magdalina on July 25, 2017 11:16AM
  • RainfeatherUK
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    A lot of combat systems of this type, across the board of gaming, function poorly with lag.

    Its simply worse here with the terrible servers and latency. If they can't address the server issues, they will likely never process it correctly. Something that needs to be addressed before its worth editing code.
  • GreenhaloX
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    Ch4mpTW wrote: »
    https://youtu.be/I1wsTHhjb2M

    Seriously. What happened to it? Whether it is PvE or PvP. I'm so damn tired of getting double CC'd from hard-CC's that I'm ready to scream. I can't avoid it in PvE, and I can't avoid it in PvP. NPC's and players alike just completely rendering CC immunity null and void. And I've damn near had it. I made a post about this a month or so ago, and not a single damn dev or combat team member made a comment about what they are doing to look into it. Nor have mentioned an ETA on a proper fix.

    I'm sick of it, bruh. I'm tired of having point out crap, and nothing gets done. Just like how early I made a thread about how I could still gap-close into keeps, and sent out messages to the staff of ZOS. And not 1 of them has gotten back to me about it, or how they'll look into it. People have been exploiting the queue system, and still no ETA on when that will be fixed. Keep doors not letting you in or out have been broken for YEARS, and still no damn ETA on a fix. But you ZOS mods can come into a thread, and make a comment about how you removed a post this and that. You can sure comment on that. But, you can't comment and engage on what you're ACTIVELY doing to make your game better.

    And yes, before some white knight joins this thread and says how I'm not entitled to a functioning game. Save it. I already know about how we signed the damn TOS that states how ZOS don't have to fix anything, and that they are free to do whatever they want and how we want. So save it. I don't want to hear that noise. Call this another complaint and whine thread. Call me the ESO Alex Jones. Idgaf at this point, bruh. I really don't.

    Damn.. another language of ESO I don't understand. What is CC? I don't know.. looking at your clip, it just looks like a single dude in PvP land getting his arse handed to him by a group, which happens to every dudes or dudettes in Cyrodiil that decide to solo. That's why only being in a zerg or group in Cyrodiil pays..
  • SwaminoNowlino
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    Not only is it broken, but it is further exacerbated by this perverse idea that EVERY npc for some stupid reason has a root, snare, or stun. THE GOBLINS IN CRACKED WOOD CAVE USE SPAM TRAP BEAST!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Think about how stupid that is. Goblins. In a cave in Cyrodiil. Are using FIGHTERS GUILD abilities.

    I'm not sure who is to blame for this system, or who thought it would be an enjoyable experience to never be in full control of your character, but its a damn shame. Add this to the ever growing list of things that drag down what should be the biggest and best game out right now. ESO has such an incredible amount of potential. There's no other game quite like it. Its just some of these perverse design choices and the fact that we can't even get a reply to items like this that keep dragging things down.

    I'm sick of always being slowed, rooted, or stunned. I'm sick of my pots not going off if I am moving or even thinking about moving. I'm sick of when my pot does actually go off, it doesn't give me the CC immunity I am supposed to get from using those expensive ingredients. I'm sick of being gap closer spammed for a perma snare. I'm sick of having to run three different abilities on my bar at the same time so I can maintain control of my own character for 40% of the time.

    I complain about a lot of issues with this game, but this is overall consistently the least enjoyable aspect for me. I'd go back to having battleground queues being busted if I could just enjoy some semblance of mobility on my character.

    @ZOS_RichLambert @ZOS_MattFiror @Wrobel
    Edited by SwaminoNowlino on July 25, 2017 11:56AM
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  • Aisle9
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    GreenhaloX wrote: »
    Ch4mpTW wrote: »
    https://youtu.be/I1wsTHhjb2M

    Seriously. What happened to it? Whether it is PvE or PvP. I'm so damn tired of getting double CC'd from hard-CC's that I'm ready to scream. I can't avoid it in PvE, and I can't avoid it in PvP. NPC's and players alike just completely rendering CC immunity null and void. And I've damn near had it. I made a post about this a month or so ago, and not a single damn dev or combat team member made a comment about what they are doing to look into it. Nor have mentioned an ETA on a proper fix.

    I'm sick of it, bruh. I'm tired of having point out crap, and nothing gets done. Just like how early I made a thread about how I could still gap-close into keeps, and sent out messages to the staff of ZOS. And not 1 of them has gotten back to me about it, or how they'll look into it. People have been exploiting the queue system, and still no ETA on when that will be fixed. Keep doors not letting you in or out have been broken for YEARS, and still no damn ETA on a fix. But you ZOS mods can come into a thread, and make a comment about how you removed a post this and that. You can sure comment on that. But, you can't comment and engage on what you're ACTIVELY doing to make your game better.

    And yes, before some white knight joins this thread and says how I'm not entitled to a functioning game. Save it. I already know about how we signed the damn TOS that states how ZOS don't have to fix anything, and that they are free to do whatever they want and how we want. So save it. I don't want to hear that noise. Call this another complaint and whine thread. Call me the ESO Alex Jones. Idgaf at this point, bruh. I really don't.

    Damn.. another language of ESO I don't understand. What is CC? I don't know.. looking at your clip, it just looks like a single dude in PvP land getting his arse handed to him by a group, which happens to every dudes or dudettes in Cyrodiil that decide to solo. That's why only being in a zerg or group in Cyrodiil pays..

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  • Ranger209
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    I think the knock down ones are the worst, you keep getting knocked back down before you can get up to effectively use break free, and it ends up being a chain stun. Seeing people starting to just spam these abilities, had a 3 stone fist death recap all 3 from the same player.
  • GreenhaloX
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    Aisle9 wrote: »
    GreenhaloX wrote: »
    Ch4mpTW wrote: »
    https://youtu.be/I1wsTHhjb2M

    Seriously. What happened to it? Whether it is PvE or PvP. I'm so damn tired of getting double CC'd from hard-CC's that I'm ready to scream. I can't avoid it in PvE, and I can't avoid it in PvP. NPC's and players alike just completely rendering CC immunity null and void. And I've damn near had it. I made a post about this a month or so ago, and not a single damn dev or combat team member made a comment about what they are doing to look into it. Nor have mentioned an ETA on a proper fix.

    I'm sick of it, bruh. I'm tired of having point out crap, and nothing gets done. Just like how early I made a thread about how I could still gap-close into keeps, and sent out messages to the staff of ZOS. And not 1 of them has gotten back to me about it, or how they'll look into it. People have been exploiting the queue system, and still no ETA on when that will be fixed. Keep doors not letting you in or out have been broken for YEARS, and still no damn ETA on a fix. But you ZOS mods can come into a thread, and make a comment about how you removed a post this and that. You can sure comment on that. But, you can't comment and engage on what you're ACTIVELY doing to make your game better.

    And yes, before some white knight joins this thread and says how I'm not entitled to a functioning game. Save it. I already know about how we signed the damn TOS that states how ZOS don't have to fix anything, and that they are free to do whatever they want and how we want. So save it. I don't want to hear that noise. Call this another complaint and whine thread. Call me the ESO Alex Jones. Idgaf at this point, bruh. I really don't.

    Damn.. another language of ESO I don't understand. What is CC? I don't know.. looking at your clip, it just looks like a single dude in PvP land getting his arse handed to him by a group, which happens to every dudes or dudettes in Cyrodiil that decide to solo. That's why only being in a zerg or group in Cyrodiil pays..

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    Oh.. thanks for the clarification. Not slamming or bashing on the Ch4mpTW dude in any way, but what is actually the problem again with CC that Ch4mpTW dude is beeaattcching about? Maybe it just me.. and no, no white knight (black sheep here more than anything) here. All I see is a dude getting his arse handed to him by a group, which happens to me too while I tried to solo in Cyrodiil.
  • SwaminoNowlino
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    GreenhaloX wrote: »
    Aisle9 wrote: »
    GreenhaloX wrote: »
    Ch4mpTW wrote: »
    https://youtu.be/I1wsTHhjb2M

    Seriously. What happened to it? Whether it is PvE or PvP. I'm so damn tired of getting double CC'd from hard-CC's that I'm ready to scream. I can't avoid it in PvE, and I can't avoid it in PvP. NPC's and players alike just completely rendering CC immunity null and void. And I've damn near had it. I made a post about this a month or so ago, and not a single damn dev or combat team member made a comment about what they are doing to look into it. Nor have mentioned an ETA on a proper fix.

    I'm sick of it, bruh. I'm tired of having point out crap, and nothing gets done. Just like how early I made a thread about how I could still gap-close into keeps, and sent out messages to the staff of ZOS. And not 1 of them has gotten back to me about it, or how they'll look into it. People have been exploiting the queue system, and still no ETA on when that will be fixed. Keep doors not letting you in or out have been broken for YEARS, and still no damn ETA on a fix. But you ZOS mods can come into a thread, and make a comment about how you removed a post this and that. You can sure comment on that. But, you can't comment and engage on what you're ACTIVELY doing to make your game better.

    And yes, before some white knight joins this thread and says how I'm not entitled to a functioning game. Save it. I already know about how we signed the damn TOS that states how ZOS don't have to fix anything, and that they are free to do whatever they want and how we want. So save it. I don't want to hear that noise. Call this another complaint and whine thread. Call me the ESO Alex Jones. Idgaf at this point, bruh. I really don't.

    Damn.. another language of ESO I don't understand. What is CC? I don't know.. looking at your clip, it just looks like a single dude in PvP land getting his arse handed to him by a group, which happens to every dudes or dudettes in Cyrodiil that decide to solo. That's why only being in a zerg or group in Cyrodiil pays..

    Crowd Control

    Oh.. thanks for the clarification. Not slamming or bashing on the Ch4mpTW dude in any way, but what is actually the problem again with CC that Ch4mpTW dude is beeaattcching about? Maybe it just me.. and no, no white knight (black sheep here more than anything) here. All I see is a dude getting his arse handed to him by a group, which happens to me too while I tried to solo in Cyrodiil.

    He gets knocked down by a javelin. Gets back up. And is immediately knocked down again. There is supposed to an immunity to cc in there somewhere. It doesn't ever actually work that way.
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  • Reverb
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    Apokalypt wrote: »
    I experience the complete opposite. Players in bgs that are permanently immune to cc...

    Anyone in BG without almost 100% Immovable (via pots or the heavy armor skill) uptime is doing it wrong.
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