Tabard's graphic bug on DLC chest pieces

Ralen · December 2016

Hi everyone,
Hi ZoS, @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom

Since the addition of the Trinimac Style (one year ago or so), I noticed that the chest pieces from most new styles weren't visually compatible with a guild tabard. When you wear a guild tabard, the chest piece under it is replaced by a filthy dark texture. If you want a notable exemple, this happen with the chest piece from the new Skinchanger style.

Is ZoS planning to fix this recurring and annoying visual glitch ?

Thanks for answers

Ralen · December 2016

Some screenshots to show you the thing

On Trinimac Style :

Without tabard

With tabard

On Dark Brotherhood Style :

Whitout tabard

With tabard

And on the beautiful Skinchanger Style :

Without tabard

With tabard

Well, we agree, this is ugly ?

xRIVALENx · December 2016

Looks to me as if nothing is actually tested and just implemented with the hope that it will work.

Karius_Imalthar · December 2016

I'm not sure what i'm supposed to be seeing here. I see three screenshots of different armor styles without tabards then one with a tabard. I was expecting to see terrible clipping or something. When you mentioned trinimac I thought it would be referring to the overly large chest on the heavy and was expecting to see it clipping through the tabard.

Ralen · December 2016

No, I talk about the dark texture that replaced the chest piece under the tabard, do you see it ? You cleary see that, when you wear it, the tabard do not embraces the geometry of the chest piece BECAUSE the piece disappear in favor of a dark flat texture.

You see it, now ?

Ralen · June 2017

I reopen this thread for two reasons...

First, no devs has answered to my remark, apparently no interest ...

Secondly, the bug that I pointed out is still active on the game and I come to think that it is not a bug but rather a lack of devs courage to propose styles that adapt to the tabard.

A few screenshots to illustrate -again- this ugly glitch with the news Morag Tong style :

Medium Morag Tong chest -without tabard-

Medium Morag Tong chest -with tabard- VANISHED !

Heavy Morag Tong chest - without tabard-

Heavy Morag Tong chest -with tabard- VANISHED !

Come on ZOS ! @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom How can you have left such an old glitch on the game without ever doing anything ... So we can not wear a tabard AND new style chest since Orsinium ?! It's a bit scandalous ...

Ralen · June 2017

So nobody care about it?...

Everybody put away his tabard because ZoS does not fix a glitch?

Laegwing · June 2017

@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom

Pieces of information would be appreciated here

Tyreal1974 · June 2017

I just want to start out and say i have been INCREDIBLY impressed with the art work that has been done with this game. I am delighted daily at how nice everything looks and I make sure to "take in the sights" when I am running around questing/farming mats. Many thanks to the Art/Music team as ESO is an absolute joy to play due to your hard work!

I recently noticed this glitch with the new Morag Tong set, and I am glad to see I am not the only one to think this does not look right. This issue is not necessarily immersion breaking to me, and I only really notice the graphics issue with the tabard when I am dyeing my armor (I seem to like to change my armor dyes often for some reason

). I tend to not get overly bent out of shape for what could be considered minor graphics issues but, since I have seen multiple examples of "Art" fixes in the natch potes over the past year since i have started playing ESO, I think this issue could use some developer love. Thanks in advance!

Avran_Sylt · June 2017

Well, when the PTS hits live again on the 16th I'll hit up a crafter and figure out what motifs/dungeon sets don't have their own chest piece model. I'll post em here for a reference.

Ralen · June 2017

Avran_Sylt wrote: »

Well, when the PTS hits live again on the 16th I'll hit up a crafter and figure out what motifs/dungeon sets don't have their own chest piece model. I'll post em here for a reference.

Well thank you for it! Clearly it will be a great advance, and I hope devs will care about it...

Thannazzar · July 2017

Same for thieves guild style, real shame this hasnt been worked through

UrbanAvalon · July 2017

I don't think that ZOS views this as a bug, but is more of a shortcut so they don't have to make guild tabards work with any non-base game armor.

I use Malacath armor, and it does the same thing to that style. I recently put a post in the bug report section about tabards clipping through the Ancient Orc armor (https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/357942/ps4-na-pictures-guild-tabbard-clips-with-armor-s#latest), seems they just don't have any interest in making everything in their game compatable...

We must not be throwing enough money at them through ESO+, Crown Crates and "Expansions".

Avran_Sylt · July 2017

It's an issue that is present with any armor style that adds any volume to the character model in the chest. The original tabards were designed to work with the skin-textured armors of the base game. At this point it's just an issue of getting a team working on it/interns working on it. While it is noted, I don;t think its a priority issue atm.

SirCritical · July 2017

This is an issue with the Bahraha's curse set also (Abah's Watch?)

baratron · July 2017

It's also an issue with the Amber Plasm set from Ruins of Mazzatun.

The tabard displays fine over the Breeches (which are actually a kilt):

But when you wear the Robe as well, you get the horrible black thing under the tabard:

Avran_Sylt wrote: »

It's an issue that is present with any armor style that adds any volume to the character model in the chest. The original tabards were designed to work with the skin-textured armors of the base game. At this point it's just an issue of getting a team working on it/interns working on it. While it is noted, I don;t think its a priority issue atm.

This is clearly the correct explanation given the chest pieces affected. And yes, it's not a huge priority. It's just annoying. It wouldn't be so bad if you could choose the colour. But I don't like having my character looking like he's wearing a high-necked sweater.

Also, both the Mazzatun Breeches and Robe clip pretty badly with the bottom of the Guild Tabard.