So let me get this straight...........

Thealteregoroman · July 2017

PVP has always had this lag when you are battling at a keep or when there are more than 40 people on your screen? I know the spike of players in pvp is there because of the midyear mayhem BUT ummm......why do we still play with this lag?!?!?!?!

NO REALLY WHY ARE WE AS A COMMUNITY paying for this? How can you be fair and competitive in PVP and have leaderboards when you can't even defend yourself from 60% of the stuff you don't see because of.........LAG!?!?

enlightenment.......thats what just happened.

What can we do as a community to like really get a lock on this.......like MOST I have dropped a lot of money into this game. When I am dealing with lag in PVP I just feel like I am being cheated............

REALLY! I really do. I have the best internet and best hardware and when I play MASSIVE SCALE PVP in ESO I feel like this should be redone from the ground up.

My question to you guys is..................................

WHY ARE WE AS A COMMUNITY PAYING FOR A SERVICE THAT CLEARLY IS'nt holding up to what we are paying for..............

ALSO.......

This Midyear Mayhem just showed how broken the pvp system is...........so if this was indeed a "stress test" internally I guess the joke is on y'all cause most ain't happy.

AGAIN.....why are we paying for this?

Ch4mpTW · July 2017

I gave you an awesome, because you bring up very valid and strong points. Plus I love .gifs in threads. It adds character to posts.

IronCrystal · July 2017

I will say that I don't ever pvp, but from what I've heard, not many care about the PvP leaderboards because they are almost all just cheesed or farmed through guilds fixing emp and what not.

Thealteregoroman · July 2017

Ch4mpTW wrote: »

I gave you an awesome, because you bring up very valid and strong points. Plus I love .gifs in threads. It adds character to posts.

@Ch4mpTW Thanks! I am just saying last night I was playing pvp and it just like hit me lol......

leepalmer95 · July 2017

It confuses me too how many are just happy to accept half finished products from zos.

Bgs have been broke since morrowind release yet there is still people paying for it and white knighting zos.

Thealteregoroman · July 2017

IronCrystal wrote: »

I will say that I don't ever pvp, but from what I've heard, not many care about the PvP leaderboards because they are almost all just cheesed or farmed through guilds fixing emp and what not.

@IronCrystal right? THAT's what I am saying....why pay for that? A system that isn't fair let alone legitimate?

Ch4mpTW · July 2017

IronCrystal wrote: »

I will say that I don't ever pvp, but from what I've heard, not many care about the PvP leaderboards because they are almost all just cheesed or farmed through guilds fixing emp and what not.

They are. Trust me. I've been in guilds (in the past) where it has taken place. So I speak from personal experience in saying that NOTHING is legitimate about people obtaining emperor for the most part nowadays. Nada. In the past? Yes, and a bit somewhat. But nowadays? It's guilds that dictate map control and who gets emperor. It's guilds that work with different alliances to make certain moves happen, and for them to farm AP the way that they do.

Rohamad_Ali · July 2017

I approve of anything with this many gifs .

Thealteregoroman · July 2017

leepalmer95 wrote: »

It confuses me too how many are just happy to accept half finished products from zos.

Bgs have been broke since morrowind release yet there is still people paying for it and white knighting zos.

ParaNostram · July 2017

ZOS really needs to spend more money on upgrading the servers and hiring more engineers, developers, coders, everything! They need to expand their team and they need to upgrade their servers. Where's all that crown crate whale money going? Clearly not to fixing the things that are broken!

SHADOW2KK · July 2017

Cos ZoS are incompetent, long gone are the days of no lag or barely any lag, in fact, it was that long ago, I can barely remember it.

ZoS are literally the only gaming developer that actually tries to annoy as much of their playerbase as possible and fixes little, ignores pretty much all feedback and does what it wants, yet we are still here.

We are all masochists, feeding ZoS our money in the unlikely hope they might actually get a grip and do the work and use some money to sort their "lag free megaserver" hype crap from 2013 and make it a reality.

Thealteregoroman · July 2017

SHADOW2KK wrote: »

Cos ZoS are incompetent, long gone are the days of no lag or barely any lag, in fact, it was that long ago, I can barely remember it.

ZoS are literally the only gaming developer that actually tries to annoy as much of their playerbase as possible and fixes little, ignores pretty much all feedback and does what it wants, yet we are still here.

We are all masochists, feeding ZoS our money in the unlikely hope they might actually get a grip and do the work and use some money to sort their "lag free megaserver" hype crap from 2013 and make it a reality.

@SHADOW2KK this is how I felt when I made this post......I guess I can only hope some people wake up and be like......enough is enough....

SHADOW2KK · July 2017

Thealteregoroman wrote: »

SHADOW2KK wrote: »

Cos ZoS are incompetent, long gone are the days of no lag or barely any lag, in fact, it was that long ago, I can barely remember it.

ZoS are literally the only gaming developer that actually tries to annoy as much of their playerbase as possible and fixes little, ignores pretty much all feedback and does what it wants, yet we are still here.

We are all masochists, feeding ZoS our money in the unlikely hope they might actually get a grip and do the work and use some money to sort their "lag free megaserver" hype crap from 2013 and make it a reality.

@SHADOW2KK this is how I felt when I made this post......I guess I can only hope some people wake up and be like......enough is enough....

Yup well said

Ch4mpTW · July 2017

SHADOW2KK wrote: »

Cos ZoS are incompetent, long gone are the days of no lag or barely any lag, in fact, it was that long ago, I can barely remember it.

ZoS are literally the only gaming developer that actually tries to annoy as much of their playerbase as possible and fixes little, ignores pretty much all feedback and does what it wants, yet we are still here.

We are all masochists, feeding ZoS our money in the unlikely hope they might actually get a grip and do the work and use some money to sort their "lag free megaserver" hype crap from 2013 and make it a reality.

While I can enjoy this game if I'm only questing, solo'ing things, and farming — I can't do so with pretty much anything else. I start to get annoyed, and have to swap games before I get too irritated and negative. This is by far the only game I've played, where over time you as the player become weaker. Yet the content remains the same, and or gets harder. This is the only game I've played where instead of incorporating things that the vast majority of the player requests which are major quality of life improvements, the developers ignore them and or do them in a delayed fashion. Case and point? Why is it that bankable AP is just now being implemented of Fall 2017? Why is it late July 2017, and we STILL have no token system for VMA and or a form of "smart loot" implemented into the loot tables and RNG systems? Lol.

IronCrystal · July 2017

SHADOW2KK wrote: »

Cos ZoS are incompetent, long gone are the days of no lag or barely any lag, in fact, it was that long ago, I can barely remember it.

ZoS are literally the only gaming developer that actually tries to annoy as much of their playerbase as possible and fixes little, ignores pretty much all feedback and does what it wants, yet we are still here.

We are all masochists, feeding ZoS our money in the unlikely hope they might actually get a grip and do the work and use some money to sort their "lag free megaserver" hype crap from 2013 and make it a reality.

I think EA takes the cake for annoying playerbase as much as possible, but I won't say ZOS isn't up there....

SHADOW2KK · July 2017

Ch4mpTW wrote: »

SHADOW2KK wrote: »

Cos ZoS are incompetent, long gone are the days of no lag or barely any lag, in fact, it was that long ago, I can barely remember it.

ZoS are literally the only gaming developer that actually tries to annoy as much of their playerbase as possible and fixes little, ignores pretty much all feedback and does what it wants, yet we are still here.

We are all masochists, feeding ZoS our money in the unlikely hope they might actually get a grip and do the work and use some money to sort their "lag free megaserver" hype crap from 2013 and make it a reality.

While I can enjoy this game if I'm only questing, solo'ing things, and farming — I can't do so with pretty much anything else. I start to get annoyed, and have to swap games before I get too irritated and negative. This is by far the only game I've played, where over time you as the player become weaker. Yet the content remains the same, and or gets harder. This is the only game I've played where instead of incorporating things that the vast majority of the player requests which are major quality of life improvements, the developers ignore them and or do them in a delayed fashion. Case and point? Why is it that bankable AP is just now being implemented of Fall 2017? Why is it late July 2017, and we STILL have no token system for VMA and or a form of "smart loot" implemented into the loot tables and RNG systems? Lol.

I hear you, I been here since the beginning, closed betas, early access 2014, etc, take breaks every so often, I have to for my sanity.

ZoS read this, and get a damed grip, some of your playerbase actually have brain cells, and see beyond your lying and incompetence, yet we repeatedly give you chances.

I agree btw @Ch4mpTW

Rikkof · July 2017

instead of having the company apologizing for the atrocious lag....you have the players doing it for the company
this is the only game I have encountered so much fanboism and trolling

Thealteregoroman · July 2017

Ch4mpTW wrote: »

SHADOW2KK wrote: »

Cos ZoS are incompetent, long gone are the days of no lag or barely any lag, in fact, it was that long ago, I can barely remember it.

ZoS are literally the only gaming developer that actually tries to annoy as much of their playerbase as possible and fixes little, ignores pretty much all feedback and does what it wants, yet we are still here.

We are all masochists, feeding ZoS our money in the unlikely hope they might actually get a grip and do the work and use some money to sort their "lag free megaserver" hype crap from 2013 and make it a reality.

While I can enjoy this game if I'm only questing, solo'ing things, and farming — I can't do so with pretty much anything else. I start to get annoyed, and have to swap games before I get too irritated and negative. This is by far the only game I've played, where over time you as the player become weaker. Yet the content remains the same, and or gets harder. This is the only game I've played where instead of incorporating things that the vast majority of the player requests which are major quality of life improvements, the developers ignore them and or do them in a delayed fashion. Case and point? Why is it that bankable AP is just now being implemented of Fall 2017? Why is it late July 2017, and we STILL have no token system for VMA and or a form of "smart loot" implemented into the loot tables and RNG systems? Lol.

@Ch4mpTW because of your post......I am....

enlightened

Rohamad_Ali · July 2017

This event is a horror movie for those with lag ...

The week before the warnings get posted .

Then when it happens PvP'ers b like ...

Looking for anyone that can fix the problem on the forums , all it takes is a Mod to post info an people are like ..

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It's full pandemonium every PVP event .

SirAndy · July 2017

Thealteregoroman wrote: »

PVP has always had this lag when you are battling at a keep or when there are more than 40 people on your screen?

Wrong, which is why i didn't bother with the rest of the post.

We used to have hundreds of players in the same spot without lag.
And that was before they removed skill/status effect display on other players and killed all the deer in Cyrodiil.

max_only · July 2017

Sotha Sil and Shor (no cp) have only dc'd me once each since the event started. And when I get back on, I'm not dead and the keep isn't overrun.

*Somebody* has to be enjoying this lag free *somewhere*. Maybe the margin of error/lag is within Zos's acceptable range. I mean, we are the same 20 people on the forums.... maybe it's "good enough" for them?

Bonzodog01 · July 2017

Points to XBox EU

Yeah, we have a VERY low pop, even on vivec by your standards. Right now, in the event, the maximum queue for it is about 200, and less than an hour.

Yes, we have lag. Blame procs sets, CP, and a single core engine for that. Oh, and the fact that they moved 90% of processing back server side to stop cheaters and hacking. This is the majority of the lag.

Thealteregoroman · July 2017

SirAndy wrote: »

Thealteregoroman wrote: »

PVP has always had this lag when you are battling at a keep or when there are more than 40 people on your screen?

Wrong, which is why i didn't bother with the rest of the post.

We used to have hundreds of players in the same spot without lag.
And that was before they removed skill/status effect display on other players and killed all the deer in Cyrodiil.

@SirAndy yea I am talking about today. I have seen the videos you have posted. I am talking about NOW. You bought Morrowind knowing that pvp is lag. YOU ALSO BOUGHT MORROWIND KNOWING BATTLEGROUNDS WOULD BE A COMPLETE BUST.

My question is why?

You would have gotten that if you read the rest of the "post"

SirAndy · July 2017

Thealteregoroman wrote: »

You bought Morrowind knowing that pvp is lag. My question is why?

Nostalgia ...

Thealteregoroman · July 2017

SirAndy wrote: »

Thealteregoroman wrote: »

You bought Morrowind knowing that pvp is lag. My question is why?

Nostalgia ...

Thanks!

Runschei · July 2017

So. Many. Gifs.

AlienatedGoat · July 2017

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

It's full pandemonium every PVP event .

Just another reminder about how low PvP is on ZOS's priority list.

Also, RIP the Paxor. =( I miss ya man

The17thNinja · July 2017

I awesome this post. Im on Xbox and I cannot even go into Vivec City without the game crashing every single time, so i cant imagine how I'd fare in pvp. I filed numerous complaints, their reply was to blame my router and my xbox. So my reply linked numerous threads about crashing in Vivec and a forum post from their own Support team acknowledging the issue.
They said "As stated in your link we are working on it". So I asked "Then why was your immediate response blaming me and my hardware?" *Crickets*

Thealteregoroman · July 2017

The17thNinja wrote: »

I awesome this post. Im on Xbox and I cannot even go into Vivec City without the game crashing every single time, so i cant imagine how I'd fare in pvp. I filed numerous complaints, their reply was to blame my router and my xbox. So my reply linked numerous threads about crashing in Vivec and a forum post from their own Support team acknowledging the issue.
They said "As stated in your link we are working on it". So I asked "Then why was your immediate response blaming me and my hardware?" *Crickets*

@The17thNinja and WE paid for an experience that was promised..............this is what I am talking about. I feel your pain and annoyance.

Malacthulhu · July 2017

I think they need a new game engine lol. Also, the mega server thing was an over ambitious poop shoot idea and now it has diarrhea issues or constipation. Hind sight is 20/20.

KingYogi415 · July 2017

I honesty think half of you people only PVP so you can have another topic to come cry about on the forums.....