Someone got ganked. Quick get this guy a cookie.

Global cooldowns are testable on a skeleton. I think Gilliam the Rogue had a video at one time that explained them. There is no way to avoid GCDs, no matter how great someone gets at animation cancelling.

As someone who is pvping for the first time in a LONG time on ps4, I DO feel like we have some questionable players. But I hesitate to say we have a lot of hackers. More like... It reminds me of my brother playing COD with nearly dial up internet quality. We called him, "Lag man" and he was able to teleport around and kill people with ferocity.

Stop with this, you play on console, what you had is lag.

I consider myself one of the best anim canceler on my platform (yes I am cocky) and I can't throw 5 skills in 2 seconds, I can burst you with 5 direct damage in maybe 4-5 seconds but that's skill and I can't do it all the time I need to concentrate and time it, also I can only do it on Magsorc, on others classes my max attacks per seconds is 3 (Light skill bash) or if the campaign is dead and its lag free (light heavy skill bash) but it's not like everyone can do that.

I've been playing 3 years in this game and I've never left Cyrodiil in those 3 years, in those 3 years I've never faced an opponent canceling that fast that I cannot see his animations, I am really being honest you just had lag I promise you that.

I've read other threads of you and you seem a good person so don't take it personally but animation cancelling doesn't prevent the Global Cooldown, it's just a way to damage quicker by releasing the skill faster, but the cooldown is unbreakable not even Macros on PC can destroy it.

Ch4mpTW wrote: »

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

Ch4mpTW wrote: »

Brrrofski wrote: »

At this point, you should know every classes combo. You shouldn't have to see anything. You should know what's coming.

Do you know how ignorant that sounds...? How the hell you got an agree for that, I have no idea. I shouldn't have to see anything in order to defend myself? What...? Sorry, but this isn't like those animes where a person can close their eyes and fight what they can't see. The blind master doesn't exist in ESO.

technically it does with combat addons .

But besides the point . I don't know what causes this to happen but ZoS needs to figure it out . It's not a conspiracy and people have been reporting it for years . [ so proud of you for not Alex Jonesing this one BRUH , it's a real issue] Lastly it should not happen .

I seriously don't know of animation canceling has anything to do with or some form of cheat that bypasses cooldown or of the server throws up information even with no lag , just want to see it go away .

Fought a D.C. Sorc at Alessia farm earlier, and literally they bar swapped and I got hit with a: Crystal Frag, light attack, and Force Pulse literally instantly. Only for them to use Mage's Wrath and shield at apparently the same exact time.

Frag procs, use. Frags has cast time. While it is traveling, light attack, then force pulse. Viola, three attacks instant. If you want that fixed, get frags to hit for less damage and make it an instant hit with no travel time.

Mages' wrath can also have a delay (it doesn't proc when it hits, it's procced kinda like regen does at a fixed interval. Easy to replicate: spam it on a skeleton. It sometimes goes off BEFORE you cast it, other times takes a second) which means, you guessed it, it was delayed.

If you have suspicious videos, upload them to a green text on here. They won't take disciplinary action if you do it the right way (and the worst you'd get for naming and shaming depends on your method. Likely a wrist slap tbh).

I won't touch whether or not animation canceling ought to be a thing. You don't want my opinion

Sounds like macroslicing. Blame the game not the players, noone has any control over this.

I feel that we need more info. Was the attacks from one person or several?

That medium armor build can deal 25k in 2 sec, and therefore Soul Assault needs to be nerfed! If you can't insta give your opponent, how dare they have a way to kill the medium armor user!

Ch4mpTW wrote: »

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

Ch4mpTW wrote: »

Brrrofski wrote: »

At this point, you should know every classes combo. You shouldn't have to see anything. You should know what's coming.

Do you know how ignorant that sounds...? How the hell you got an agree for that, I have no idea. I shouldn't have to see anything in order to defend myself? What...? Sorry, but this isn't like those animes where a person can close their eyes and fight what they can't see. The blind master doesn't exist in ESO.

technically it does with combat addons .

But besides the point . I don't know what causes this to happen but ZoS needs to figure it out . It's not a conspiracy and people have been reporting it for years . [ so proud of you for not Alex Jonesing this one BRUH , it's a real issue] Lastly it should not happen .

I seriously don't know of animation canceling has anything to do with or some form of cheat that bypasses cooldown or of the server throws up information even with no lag , just want to see it go away .

@Rohamad_Ali Lol. You're welcome, and yes. Something needs to be done immediately about it. Fought a D.C. Sorc at Alessia farm earlier, and literally they bar swapped and I got hit with a: Crystal Frag, light attack, and Force Pulse literally instantly. Only for them to use Mage's Wrath and shield at apparently the same exact time. I of course get insta-merked, and then teabagged by this player.

I am at this point just awaiting for someone to just tell me to "L2P" or "git gud" in this thread. As this type of nonsense somehow gets defended to the tee.

After you said you had video proof I was starting to believe that you had found some hackers who were bypassing the global cooldown

Then you decided to post, as your example, one of the only five hit combos that's entirely possible for even moderately skilled players to pull off without any form of cheating or lag. In surprised you didn't include haunting curse in there since it's usually the fifth part of the combo...

So bravo, buddy. maybe people tell you that you need to learn to play because you actually do? And maybe make a sorc... you can pull off that combo really really easily, and you'll also notice the easy easy counters to it when you try it on a good player.

For me, it only happens from night blades that I will die to 5 attacks in one second (they charge, I die - 4 to 5 attacks and a proc) and not surprisingly, it's always the same two players that do it

I find it funny that AC has been an issue for so long yet no one seems to really appreciate the purpose of it and its intentions.

macro's need to be banned and it has to be enforced... and animation canceling is making the macro's go so that's a cause of it.

being hit by a lot of players is just good coordination and voice chat... sadly

Bonzodog01 wrote: »

He sounds a little like me - OCD means that we HAVE to be able to see all animations in order to react to them. If we can't see each individual animation for its full length, then we don't react. Its wierd, I know.

But when i'm in PvP, I spend more time dodge-rolling just in case they are firing an ability than anything else. I need to see the animation and allow my brain time to work out what skill they are using before I react, and I only press my own buttons fast enough to make sure I see the animation.

Some of us NEED, absolutely MUST see all animations, otherwise we are convinced the skill didn't go off, and will repeat it until we see the animation.

Yes, it makes us slow fighters, but that I think is what we are asking for - people to slow down fighting a bit.

Personally, I would rather they changed the combat system to where different skills had different cooldowns before you could use them again. Also, no proc sets, they are just cheesy.

And a 3 second GCD.

It would slow down combat, but also make it a lot more skilled.

AHAHAHAHAH you would be removing any existing "skill" with a 3 second GCD.

Thogard wrote: »

andreasranasen wrote: »

Thogard wrote: »

The fact that you don't even know what animation cancelling is is why people tell you that you need to learn to play. Animation cancelling in no way allows you to bypass the global cooldown. All it does is prevent you from seeing animations...

And whether or not you see an animation doesn't affect what actually hits you... animations are just... cosmetic...

If someone is bypassing the global cooldown then they are hacking. Animation cancelling has nothing to do with it.

EXACTLY why it should be removed.

I mean it's not ideal but think of the consequences. You use a skill and then lose the ability to dodge roll or light attack for a second? You light attack and then lose the ability to block for a second? Imagine how clunky that combat would be.

Simple. If you fire off a skill and during the animation you perform another action, you cancel the previous skill and that skill DOES NOT DO DAMAGE OR ANY OTHER EFFECTS.

Ch4mpTW wrote: »

actosh wrote: »

StackonClown wrote: »

Ch4mpTW wrote: »

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

Ch4mpTW wrote: »

Brrrofski wrote: »

At this point, you should know every classes combo. You shouldn't have to see anything. You should know what's coming.

Do you know how ignorant that sounds...? How the hell you got an agree for that, I have no idea. I shouldn't have to see anything in order to defend myself? What...? Sorry, but this isn't like those animes where a person can close their eyes and fight what they can't see. The blind master doesn't exist in ESO.

technically it does with combat addons .

But besides the point . I don't know what causes this to happen but ZoS needs to figure it out . It's not a conspiracy and people have been reporting it for years . [ so proud of you for not Alex Jonesing this one BRUH , it's a real issue] Lastly it should not happen .

I seriously don't know of animation canceling has anything to do with or some form of cheat that bypasses cooldown or of the server throws up information even with no lag , just want to see it go away .

@Rohamad_Ali Lol. You're welcome, and yes. Something needs to be done immediately about it. Fought a D.C. Sorc at Alessia farm earlier, and literally they bar swapped and I got hit with a: Crystal Frag, light attack, and Force Pulse literally instantly. Only for them to use Mage's Wrath and shield at apparently the same exact time. I of course get insta-merked, and then teabagged by this player.

I am at this point just awaiting for someone to just tell me to "L2P" or "git gud" in this thread. As this type of nonsense somehow gets defended to the tee.

ok but seriously, how is it that we get hit by the same 5 abilities esp by NBs over and over again in 1 second?

Because 3of those 5 hits are procs and they have nothing to with ac.

Dmg health glyph
Selene/veli
Viper

So u got hit by just 2abilitys.

Correct. Which is why I say that what I'm complaining about is entirely different. I'm not talking about proc sets activating and killing me. No. Not at all. Does it tick me off? Sure. But, not nearly as much to having my character flop over to something that I couldn't even defend myself to. It's beyond obnoxious and ridiculous. 1 minute I'm fighting a person. I do absolutely everything that I'm supposed to. When the next minute, I see them cast Hardened or Empowered Ward, and at that same exact time a: Crystal Fragment, Force Pulse, and Light Attack just manage to fire off at the exact same time. And on multiple occasions. Without fail. Or as someone else mentioned, you'll see someone managing to Bolt Escape and cast a ward simultaneously. Then when questioned, claim they are animation cancelling all of their skills to mix everything in together.

You're talking about latency here. You're seeing the server clear cached inputs rapidly to become current. Actions input with latency don't just disappear into the void. The have to be executed, and when enough of them are built up they will appear to happen simultaneously. It has nothing to do with AC. It happens all the time in almost every online gam . Btw a proc'ed CF is a strange beast and doesn't trigger the GCD.

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