Why does Midyear Mayhem require 50 killing blows, rather than 5000 kill contributions?

ecru · July 2017

TheRealPotoroo wrote: »

This requirement is so stupid it's brain damaged. After holding my nose I took my tank into Mayhem and tagged along with a guild for an hour or so. Lots of fighting and what have you but at the end of it 0 killing blows.

Battlegrounds count for kills folks. Queue for a BG, get your kills there if you're having trouble in Cyrodil. Took me about 3 or 4 BG's to get 50 kills

Anne_Firehawk · July 2017

All the zerglings complaining, *** priceless

Waseem wrote: »

if pve healers and tanks can get it in day 1, it shouldnt be an issue..

First and last time I will ever agree with you.

Valkysas154 · July 2017

Yea it;s stupid i cant even get into pvp unless i sit here for 5 hrs in que
and even if i did i am a healer so killing blows are not going to be easy

Sigtric · July 2017

Youmee wrote: »

Well achievements arr usually collected on a main character. its unfair to the tanks and healers.

How so? Both tanks are healers are capable of using class executes if they have them. They are both capable of using siege equipment that gets KBs.

Healers maybe have a little harder time because they do need to be healing. Tanking serves no purpose other than to annoy the other team. Slot some DPS and go to work.

lasertooth · July 2017

How would all of you DPS'ers feel if the achievement was 50 life saving heals? You would whine and complain all day long.

I'm a pvp healer and I have vampires bane, shards, and the Jesus beam slotted. I've been weaving all of those moves in between my heals, buffs, and purges. After 8 hours of solid Zerg vs Zerg pvp I only have 18/50 completed, but at the expense of letting my group members drop to throw that Jesus beam.

The difference between a good healer and a bad one is a good healer knows when not to dps. The Jesus beam is a channel, it takes an extra step to cancel if you need to throw a heal or hit your ultimate heal. The destro bombs will completely drop an entire group if you are a second too late with those heals.

So yeah, I've been getting my kills. But I've been dps'ing and acting like a *** healer in order to accomplish this.

To me, it's become very clear with this event that nobody at zos actually plays their game OR understands it. They think whoever gets the most "kills" on a team is the best player, and have chosen the achievements to reflect as such.

Enslaved · July 2017

I guess there is not enough time for me to get this achievement done on 14 chars...

Sigtric · July 2017

lasertooth wrote: »

How would all of you DPS'ers feel if the achievement was 50 life saving heals? You would whine and complain all day long.

I'm a pvp healer and I have vampires bane, shards, and the Jesus beam slotted. I've been weaving all of those moves in between my heals, buffs, and purges. After 8 hours of solid Zerg vs Zerg pvp I only have 18/50 completed, but at the expense of letting my group members drop to throw that Jesus beam.

The difference between a good healer and a bad one is a good healer knows when not to dps. The Jesus beam is a channel, it takes an extra step to cancel if you need to throw a heal or hit your ultimate heal. The destro bombs will completely drop an entire group if you are a second too late with those heals.

So yeah, I've been getting my kills. But I've been dps'ing and acting like a *** healer in order to accomplish this.

To me, it's become very clear with this event that nobody at zos actually plays their game OR understands it. They think whoever gets the most "kills" on a team is the best player, and have chosen the achievements to reflect as such.

To answer your opening question, as a mag user, I'd slot a resto stick to do what was needed for that achieve. Stam has it real easy with vigor.

To me its very clear that some aren't willing to out the effort into doing what's required for the achievement the want.

It's also clear you have no idea what you are talking about regarding 'nobody at zos' plays the game. I mean if you look around some there's some video evidence out there that one of the ZOS people that folks love to blast on this forum has VMA on farm. As just one example

It's fifty kills. Get them and then go back to not being a *** healer if you want.

As an mDK main with no execute i saw this and said you know what this might be a little tough for me, considering how easy it is for sorcs to get the kb on a delayed ranged execute on my target. I just played and got my kbs instead of crying about it.

leepalmer95 · July 2017

lasertooth wrote: »

How would all of you DPS'ers feel if the achievement was 50 life saving heals? You would whine and complain all day long.

I'm a pvp healer and I have vampires bane, shards, and the Jesus beam slotted. I've been weaving all of those moves in between my heals, buffs, and purges. After 8 hours of solid Zerg vs Zerg pvp I only have 18/50 completed, but at the expense of letting my group members drop to throw that Jesus beam.

The difference between a good healer and a bad one is a good healer knows when not to dps. The Jesus beam is a channel, it takes an extra step to cancel if you need to throw a heal or hit your ultimate heal. The destro bombs will completely drop an entire group if you are a second too late with those heals.

So yeah, I've been getting my kills. But I've been dps'ing and acting like a *** healer in order to accomplish this.

To me, it's become very clear with this event that nobody at zos actually plays their game OR understands it. They think whoever gets the most "kills" on a team is the best player, and have chosen the achievements to reflect as such.

If it was 50 life saving medals instead of crying on the forum and refusing to change my build i'd slot a heal and get it.

In fact most dd's in pvp have self heals such a vigor/ ward which work on other players so i'd actually just play pvp and get it naturally.

Wreuntzylla · July 2017

My sniper completed this in something like an hour.

ecru · July 2017

lasertooth wrote: »

How would all of you DPS'ers feel if the achievement was 50 life saving heals? You would whine and complain all day long.

I'm a pvp healer and I have vampires bane, shards, and the Jesus beam slotted. I've been weaving all of those moves in between my heals, buffs, and purges. After 8 hours of solid Zerg vs Zerg pvp I only have 18/50 completed, but at the expense of letting my group members drop to throw that Jesus beam.

The difference between a good healer and a bad one is a good healer knows when not to dps. The Jesus beam is a channel, it takes an extra step to cancel if you need to throw a heal or hit your ultimate heal. The destro bombs will completely drop an entire group if you are a second too late with those heals.

So yeah, I've been getting my kills. But I've been dps'ing and acting like a *** healer in order to accomplish this.

To me, it's become very clear with this event that nobody at zos actually plays their game OR understands it. They think whoever gets the most "kills" on a team is the best player, and have chosen the achievements to reflect as such.

Just queue for a BG and your "problem" will be solved.

NyassaV · July 2017

Take your balls out of your purse and kick some ass! Just get in there and sometimes you get lucky! Bum rush em!

redshirt_49 · July 2017

Got this achievement just doing battlegrounds. On my warden. Who doesn't have an execute.

To be honest, none of the achievements are very hard. Or hard at all. Win a BG? Just do BGs for a day and literally do nothing of significance and you'll win one eventually. Or you can try actually winning and get the fifty kills that way. Even if you only get like 2 to 4 kills a match because you're a support type you'll still unlock it within a day or two. Given that the event is 11 days long, I don't see the problem on this. Just buy a cheap PvP set off the market if you don't already have one and go to town on it.

Now, the bugged achievement for BG not unlocking atm however, IS a problem. Especially for the people who were hoping to get the event done before they leave for the holidays.

lasertooth · July 2017

Sigtric wrote: »

lasertooth wrote: »

How would all of you DPS'ers feel if the achievement was 50 life saving heals? You would whine and complain all day long.

I'm a pvp healer and I have vampires bane, shards, and the Jesus beam slotted. I've been weaving all of those moves in between my heals, buffs, and purges. After 8 hours of solid Zerg vs Zerg pvp I only have 18/50 completed, but at the expense of letting my group members drop to throw that Jesus beam.

The difference between a good healer and a bad one is a good healer knows when not to dps. The Jesus beam is a channel, it takes an extra step to cancel if you need to throw a heal or hit your ultimate heal. The destro bombs will completely drop an entire group if you are a second too late with those heals.

So yeah, I've been getting my kills. But I've been dps'ing and acting like a *** healer in order to accomplish this.

To me, it's become very clear with this event that nobody at zos actually plays their game OR understands it. They think whoever gets the most "kills" on a team is the best player, and have chosen the achievements to reflect as such.

To answer your opening question, as a mag user, I'd slot a resto stick to do what was needed for that achieve. Stam has it real easy with vigor.

To me its very clear that some aren't willing to out the effort into doing what's required for the achievement the want.

It's also clear you have no idea what you are talking about regarding 'nobody at zos' plays the game. I mean if you look around some there's some video evidence out there that one of the ZOS people that folks love to blast on this forum has VMA on farm. As just one example

It's fifty kills. Get them and then go back to not being a *** healer if you want.

As an mDK main with no execute i saw this and said you know what this might be a little tough for me, considering how easy it is for sorcs to get the kb on a delayed ranged execute on my target. I just played and got my kbs instead of crying about it.

People slotting vigor/restro staff heals and getting life saving awards would be as difficult as it's been for me using shards and my other silly dps moves to get the current achievement. Yeah it's doable. But you would be sacrificing your build/play style. That's all I was pointing out.

My post was merely pointing out another side to the argument: that many of us would appreciate more achievements with an emphasis in support, not dps. It's just an opinion, no need to be so aggressive "just get your 50 kills and then go back to not being a *** healer" lol.

And as far as zos employees not playing or understanding their game, I'll agree that my word choice of "nobody" was a little dramatic of a statement. Perhaps "vast majority" would've been better.

Small potatoes.

Vaoh · July 2017

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

It's easy if you're a sorc. You don't even really need to do much fighting. Just spam Mage's Fury on enemies that others are fighting, and steal kills. Such a dumb system.

^^ Yup

Same thing works for Deathmatch in Battlegrounds. The systems are highly flawed and yet ZOS won't change things until they've gone on for months (if not years) of complaints.

heng14rwb17_ESO · July 2017

Go to a non cp campign.
Slot fury.
50 kill achievement in 30 min.

ofSunhold · July 2017

@Enslaved wrote: »

I guess there is not enough time for me to get this achievement done on 14 chars...

Seven hundred kbs? You still have more than a week!

That no-cp campaign seem more attractive all of a sudden?

Come to the dark side!

Subversus · July 2017

I completed mine on my nightblades in 1-1.5hours of solo pvp.

It's not hard if you're not a terrible player that runs in 30 man blobs chasing down solo players in the middle of nowhere. I would assume there are not so many kills coming from there.

sparafucilsarwb17_ESO · July 2017

50 kills was easy to get in one evening of pvp on my stam warden

Enslaved · July 2017

ofSunhold wrote: »

@Enslaved wrote: »

I guess there is not enough time for me to get this achievement done on 14 chars...

Seven hundred kbs? You still have more than a week!

That no-cp campaign seem more attractive all of a sudden? Come to the dark side!

Bah, battlegrounds are non cp anyways, but not all of my chars are dps.

Sigma957 · July 2017

It wasn't hard to get 50 killing blows on my mDK so I don't know why there is a lot of complaining about it lol

XxBradeyxX · July 2017

Does it have to be in one day?

Insandros · July 2017

Drummerx04 wrote: »

Guys, if you haven't figured out that you can gather a couple friends from different factions and then go to some far corner of cyrodiil on an underpopulated noCP campaign, then take turns reviving and killing each other... then I don't know what to tell you.

This achievement sounds easily cheesed for those who just don't like pvp or who normally run builds that don't kill things.

Don't make such a huge deal over something like this. Don't come back and say, "UNFAIR I PLAY SOLO AND DON'T HAVE FRIENDS TO CHEESE ACHIEVEMENT" because at that point... It's used a bit too much, but if you are adamant about never grouping or playing with anyone, then you pretty much chose the wrong game.

maybe lots of us PvErs thought about, but we decided not to post in on THIS forums, so the next time an event like this or even on next server maintenance, they change by giving them ideas

it so you can't kill the same person more than x amount of time to get killing blow... like places to farm, some rather keep it quiet than spread the words and getting those places populated then nerfed.

leepalmer95 · July 2017

XxBradeyxX wrote: »

Does it have to be in one day?

You have like 9 days left to do it.

Savos_Saren · July 2017

I was wrong.

I thought getting 50 Killing blows on an mDK would be hard (since we don't have an execute)- but I ended up just tossing on some meta gear (Vicious Death, Silks of the Sun, Valkyn) and running with Eye of the Storm. I got 22 killing blows in 4 hours last night.

You might just have to change your playstyle and/or gear for this one event just so you can get your achievement. Easy peasy.

Drummerx04 · July 2017

lasertooth wrote: »

People slotting vigor/restro staff heals and getting life saving awards would be as difficult as it's been for me using shards and my other silly dps moves to get the current achievement. Yeah it's doable. But you would be sacrificing your build/play style. That's all I was pointing out.

My post was merely pointing out another side to the argument: that many of us would appreciate more achievements with an emphasis in support, not dps. It's just an opinion, no need to be so aggressive "just get your 50 kills and then go back to not being a *** healer" lol.

And as far as zos employees not playing or understanding their game, I'll agree that my word choice of "nobody" was a little dramatic of a statement. Perhaps "vast majority" would've been better.

Small potatoes.

Honestly, apart from having difficulties deciding on the specific conditions on a "life saving heal" I'd argue that this is pretty easy to get for a dps. As it stands on my current build, when I see someone getting wailed on at low health, I'll ward them until they can get back up.

The rule of group engagements: you want your teammates alive otherwise more enemies will be focusing you.

Now if the achievement was heal 20,000,000 points of damage, then yeah, I'd have some complaints...

leepalmer95 · July 2017

Drummerx04 wrote: »

lasertooth wrote: »

People slotting vigor/restro staff heals and getting life saving awards would be as difficult as it's been for me using shards and my other silly dps moves to get the current achievement. Yeah it's doable. But you would be sacrificing your build/play style. That's all I was pointing out.

My post was merely pointing out another side to the argument: that many of us would appreciate more achievements with an emphasis in support, not dps. It's just an opinion, no need to be so aggressive "just get your 50 kills and then go back to not being a *** healer" lol.

And as far as zos employees not playing or understanding their game, I'll agree that my word choice of "nobody" was a little dramatic of a statement. Perhaps "vast majority" would've been better.

Small potatoes.

Honestly, apart from having difficulties deciding on the specific conditions on a "life saving heal" I'd argue that this is pretty easy to get for a dps. As it stands on my current build, when I see someone getting wailed on at low health, I'll ward them until they can get back up.

The rule of group engagements: you want your teammates alive otherwise more enemies will be focusing you.

Now if the achievement was heal 20,000,000 points of damage, then yeah, I'd have some complaints...

That would will be easy tbh.

Just spam spring into zergs and you'd get 20m so quick