Strider_Roshin wrote: »It's easy if you're a sorc. You don't even really need to do much fighting. Just spam Mage's Fury on enemies that others are fighting, and steal kills. Such a dumb system.
Strider_Roshin wrote: »It's easy if you're a sorc. You don't even really need to do much fighting. Just spam Mage's Fury on enemies that others are fighting, and steal kills. Such a dumb system.
I don't get why the devs obviously never learn... this has been a recurring problem in many different situations. Unbelievable.
Enemoriana wrote: »I'm a little confused what the problem is here. 50 killing blows is pretty much child's play no matter what class you're on, and when you account for a large influx of non-PvPers it becomes even easier. If it was just 50 kill contributions people would just roll with a zerg and get the achievement in 10 seconds.
Of course it will be easier when a lot of non-PvPers will be there.
For PvPers.
And if you are one of those non-PvPers? Who didn't PvP before and will not PvP after, but wants achievements/something that those achievements give? That sounds not so easy.
For me this event sounds like a lot of suffering. Not because doing something unusual for me, that's not a problem, but because it would be really hard and absolutely not fun. And, yes, that's something not right with my build, because it is not for PvP and killstealing. Damn, that's even not some normal build, but it's enough for quests, exploring and doing public dungeons solo, and usually I don't need and want more. And changing absolutely everything, from skills and attributes to armor, for only some days and never again... that would be stupid and I don't have money enough to waste like this. PvE events could take some time, but they were not difficult both for PvE and PvP players. Not very interesting, maybe, but not difficult. And this event...
Oh man, that so triggered me..
Look, not all events are for everyone. As a die-hard PVPer, I have had absolultely no interest in every other event we have had since I started playing. Did I complain about them? NO - because I understand that there are people who play the game who like doing different things than I do who will be enjoying them.
Now we get one, ONE event aimed at the PVPer and the salt from the other side is unreal.. Oh noes, its gonna be hard, My build isn't right, I'm not gonna have fun.....
Ok, so here's some answers to those concerns.. These answers are total common sense and some are based on doing the same thing I did with other events.
1. Its gonna be hard.. Well, its gonna be harder if you don't have a decent build for it, you don't know how to PVP, if you don't want to try, to learn, to challenge yourself. But damn - 50 kills over a week, for a real PVPer is a ridiculously small number (remember who the event is aimed at).
2. Your build isn't right... If you want to take part and do well - GET A NEW BUILD. I understand that unlike the average PVPer, many PVEers are quite cash-rich. I mean all you really need to do is change some gear and skills. You can always change it back. I mean I have to use a different build to do PVP stuff to get gear so I can PVP..
3. You're not gonna have fun.. Well, only if you decide you're not before you start (ie going in with a closed mind) - and don't put any effort into trying to do well (ie getting a build, learning a bit about PVP first)
And the biggest bit of advice which applies to all 3 of the above - ESPECIALLY 3 - is that if you don't have fun - don't do it. This is what I did with the other events we've had. Running around from A to B, back to A, now to C, back to A.... noo - bored with that now, back to PVP. Yeah, I didn't get the achievement, some of the rewards etc... but so what? I had fun with my time doing what I like doing.
Simply put - Not every event is for everyone - if you don't like it, simply don't do it instead of pissing on everyone else's parade.
theher0not wrote: »Enemoriana wrote: »I'm a little confused what the problem is here. 50 killing blows is pretty much child's play no matter what class you're on, and when you account for a large influx of non-PvPers it becomes even easier. If it was just 50 kill contributions people would just roll with a zerg and get the achievement in 10 seconds.
Of course it will be easier when a lot of non-PvPers will be there.
For PvPers.
And if you are one of those non-PvPers? Who didn't PvP before and will not PvP after, but wants achievements/something that those achievements give? That sounds not so easy.
For me this event sounds like a lot of suffering. Not because doing something unusual for me, that's not a problem, but because it would be really hard and absolutely not fun. And, yes, that's something not right with my build, because it is not for PvP and killstealing. Damn, that's even not some normal build, but it's enough for quests, exploring and doing public dungeons solo, and usually I don't need and want more. And changing absolutely everything, from skills and attributes to armor, for only some days and never again... that would be stupid and I don't have money enough to waste like this. PvE events could take some time, but they were not difficult both for PvE and PvP players. Not very interesting, maybe, but not difficult. And this event...
Oh man, that so triggered me..
Look, not all events are for everyone. As a die-hard PVPer, I have had absolultely no interest in every other event we have had since I started playing. Did I complain about them? NO - because I understand that there are people who play the game who like doing different things than I do who will be enjoying them.
Now we get one, ONE event aimed at the PVPer and the salt from the other side is unreal.. Oh noes, its gonna be hard, My build isn't right, I'm not gonna have fun.....
Ok, so here's some answers to those concerns.. These answers are total common sense and some are based on doing the same thing I did with other events.
1. Its gonna be hard.. Well, its gonna be harder if you don't have a decent build for it, you don't know how to PVP, if you don't want to try, to learn, to challenge yourself. But damn - 50 kills over a week, for a real PVPer is a ridiculously small number (remember who the event is aimed at).
2. Your build isn't right... If you want to take part and do well - GET A NEW BUILD. I understand that unlike the average PVPer, many PVEers are quite cash-rich. I mean all you really need to do is change some gear and skills. You can always change it back. I mean I have to use a different build to do PVP stuff to get gear so I can PVP..
3. You're not gonna have fun.. Well, only if you decide you're not before you start (ie going in with a closed mind) - and don't put any effort into trying to do well (ie getting a build, learning a bit about PVP first)
And the biggest bit of advice which applies to all 3 of the above - ESPECIALLY 3 - is that if you don't have fun - don't do it. This is what I did with the other events we've had. Running around from A to B, back to A, now to C, back to A.... noo - bored with that now, back to PVP. Yeah, I didn't get the achievement, some of the rewards etc... but so what? I had fun with my time doing what I like doing.
Simply put - Not every event is for everyone - if you don't like it, simply don't do it instead of pissing on everyone else's parade.
I havn't played the halloween event but the other 2 could literary be done in 1 hour even with a level 3 character. What is there to complain about? This event will be super painfull and take extremley long for all non PvPers...
leepalmer95 wrote: »theher0not wrote: »Enemoriana wrote: »I'm a little confused what the problem is here. 50 killing blows is pretty much child's play no matter what class you're on, and when you account for a large influx of non-PvPers it becomes even easier. If it was just 50 kill contributions people would just roll with a zerg and get the achievement in 10 seconds.
Of course it will be easier when a lot of non-PvPers will be there.
For PvPers.
And if you are one of those non-PvPers? Who didn't PvP before and will not PvP after, but wants achievements/something that those achievements give? That sounds not so easy.
For me this event sounds like a lot of suffering. Not because doing something unusual for me, that's not a problem, but because it would be really hard and absolutely not fun. And, yes, that's something not right with my build, because it is not for PvP and killstealing. Damn, that's even not some normal build, but it's enough for quests, exploring and doing public dungeons solo, and usually I don't need and want more. And changing absolutely everything, from skills and attributes to armor, for only some days and never again... that would be stupid and I don't have money enough to waste like this. PvE events could take some time, but they were not difficult both for PvE and PvP players. Not very interesting, maybe, but not difficult. And this event...
Oh man, that so triggered me..
Look, not all events are for everyone. As a die-hard PVPer, I have had absolultely no interest in every other event we have had since I started playing. Did I complain about them? NO - because I understand that there are people who play the game who like doing different things than I do who will be enjoying them.
Now we get one, ONE event aimed at the PVPer and the salt from the other side is unreal.. Oh noes, its gonna be hard, My build isn't right, I'm not gonna have fun.....
Ok, so here's some answers to those concerns.. These answers are total common sense and some are based on doing the same thing I did with other events.
1. Its gonna be hard.. Well, its gonna be harder if you don't have a decent build for it, you don't know how to PVP, if you don't want to try, to learn, to challenge yourself. But damn - 50 kills over a week, for a real PVPer is a ridiculously small number (remember who the event is aimed at).
2. Your build isn't right... If you want to take part and do well - GET A NEW BUILD. I understand that unlike the average PVPer, many PVEers are quite cash-rich. I mean all you really need to do is change some gear and skills. You can always change it back. I mean I have to use a different build to do PVP stuff to get gear so I can PVP..
3. You're not gonna have fun.. Well, only if you decide you're not before you start (ie going in with a closed mind) - and don't put any effort into trying to do well (ie getting a build, learning a bit about PVP first)
And the biggest bit of advice which applies to all 3 of the above - ESPECIALLY 3 - is that if you don't have fun - don't do it. This is what I did with the other events we've had. Running around from A to B, back to A, now to C, back to A.... noo - bored with that now, back to PVP. Yeah, I didn't get the achievement, some of the rewards etc... but so what? I had fun with my time doing what I like doing.
Simply put - Not every event is for everyone - if you don't like it, simply don't do it instead of pissing on everyone else's parade.
I havn't played the halloween event but the other 2 could literary be done in 1 hour even with a level 3 character. What is there to complain about? This event will be super painfull and take extremley long for all non PvPers...
Why will the event take super long.
The main achievement people are crying about e.g. 50 killing blows can be done in a hour via firing fire trebs at zergs.
theher0not wrote: »leepalmer95 wrote: »theher0not wrote: »Enemoriana wrote: »I'm a little confused what the problem is here. 50 killing blows is pretty much child's play no matter what class you're on, and when you account for a large influx of non-PvPers it becomes even easier. If it was just 50 kill contributions people would just roll with a zerg and get the achievement in 10 seconds.
Of course it will be easier when a lot of non-PvPers will be there.
For PvPers.
And if you are one of those non-PvPers? Who didn't PvP before and will not PvP after, but wants achievements/something that those achievements give? That sounds not so easy.
For me this event sounds like a lot of suffering. Not because doing something unusual for me, that's not a problem, but because it would be really hard and absolutely not fun. And, yes, that's something not right with my build, because it is not for PvP and killstealing. Damn, that's even not some normal build, but it's enough for quests, exploring and doing public dungeons solo, and usually I don't need and want more. And changing absolutely everything, from skills and attributes to armor, for only some days and never again... that would be stupid and I don't have money enough to waste like this. PvE events could take some time, but they were not difficult both for PvE and PvP players. Not very interesting, maybe, but not difficult. And this event...
Oh man, that so triggered me..
Look, not all events are for everyone. As a die-hard PVPer, I have had absolultely no interest in every other event we have had since I started playing. Did I complain about them? NO - because I understand that there are people who play the game who like doing different things than I do who will be enjoying them.
Now we get one, ONE event aimed at the PVPer and the salt from the other side is unreal.. Oh noes, its gonna be hard, My build isn't right, I'm not gonna have fun.....
Ok, so here's some answers to those concerns.. These answers are total common sense and some are based on doing the same thing I did with other events.
1. Its gonna be hard.. Well, its gonna be harder if you don't have a decent build for it, you don't know how to PVP, if you don't want to try, to learn, to challenge yourself. But damn - 50 kills over a week, for a real PVPer is a ridiculously small number (remember who the event is aimed at).
2. Your build isn't right... If you want to take part and do well - GET A NEW BUILD. I understand that unlike the average PVPer, many PVEers are quite cash-rich. I mean all you really need to do is change some gear and skills. You can always change it back. I mean I have to use a different build to do PVP stuff to get gear so I can PVP..
3. You're not gonna have fun.. Well, only if you decide you're not before you start (ie going in with a closed mind) - and don't put any effort into trying to do well (ie getting a build, learning a bit about PVP first)
And the biggest bit of advice which applies to all 3 of the above - ESPECIALLY 3 - is that if you don't have fun - don't do it. This is what I did with the other events we've had. Running around from A to B, back to A, now to C, back to A.... noo - bored with that now, back to PVP. Yeah, I didn't get the achievement, some of the rewards etc... but so what? I had fun with my time doing what I like doing.
Simply put - Not every event is for everyone - if you don't like it, simply don't do it instead of pissing on everyone else's parade.
I havn't played the halloween event but the other 2 could literary be done in 1 hour even with a level 3 character. What is there to complain about? This event will be super painfull and take extremley long for all non PvPers...
Why will the event take super long.
The main achievement people are crying about e.g. 50 killing blows can be done in a hour via firing fire trebs at zergs.
So it will come down the RNG of who's damage tick is the final? great...
theher0not wrote: »leepalmer95 wrote: »theher0not wrote: »Enemoriana wrote: »I'm a little confused what the problem is here. 50 killing blows is pretty much child's play no matter what class you're on, and when you account for a large influx of non-PvPers it becomes even easier. If it was just 50 kill contributions people would just roll with a zerg and get the achievement in 10 seconds.
Of course it will be easier when a lot of non-PvPers will be there.
For PvPers.
And if you are one of those non-PvPers? Who didn't PvP before and will not PvP after, but wants achievements/something that those achievements give? That sounds not so easy.
For me this event sounds like a lot of suffering. Not because doing something unusual for me, that's not a problem, but because it would be really hard and absolutely not fun. And, yes, that's something not right with my build, because it is not for PvP and killstealing. Damn, that's even not some normal build, but it's enough for quests, exploring and doing public dungeons solo, and usually I don't need and want more. And changing absolutely everything, from skills and attributes to armor, for only some days and never again... that would be stupid and I don't have money enough to waste like this. PvE events could take some time, but they were not difficult both for PvE and PvP players. Not very interesting, maybe, but not difficult. And this event...
Oh man, that so triggered me..
Look, not all events are for everyone. As a die-hard PVPer, I have had absolultely no interest in every other event we have had since I started playing. Did I complain about them? NO - because I understand that there are people who play the game who like doing different things than I do who will be enjoying them.
Now we get one, ONE event aimed at the PVPer and the salt from the other side is unreal.. Oh noes, its gonna be hard, My build isn't right, I'm not gonna have fun.....
Ok, so here's some answers to those concerns.. These answers are total common sense and some are based on doing the same thing I did with other events.
1. Its gonna be hard.. Well, its gonna be harder if you don't have a decent build for it, you don't know how to PVP, if you don't want to try, to learn, to challenge yourself. But damn - 50 kills over a week, for a real PVPer is a ridiculously small number (remember who the event is aimed at).
2. Your build isn't right... If you want to take part and do well - GET A NEW BUILD. I understand that unlike the average PVPer, many PVEers are quite cash-rich. I mean all you really need to do is change some gear and skills. You can always change it back. I mean I have to use a different build to do PVP stuff to get gear so I can PVP..
3. You're not gonna have fun.. Well, only if you decide you're not before you start (ie going in with a closed mind) - and don't put any effort into trying to do well (ie getting a build, learning a bit about PVP first)
And the biggest bit of advice which applies to all 3 of the above - ESPECIALLY 3 - is that if you don't have fun - don't do it. This is what I did with the other events we've had. Running around from A to B, back to A, now to C, back to A.... noo - bored with that now, back to PVP. Yeah, I didn't get the achievement, some of the rewards etc... but so what? I had fun with my time doing what I like doing.
Simply put - Not every event is for everyone - if you don't like it, simply don't do it instead of pissing on everyone else's parade.
I havn't played the halloween event but the other 2 could literary be done in 1 hour even with a level 3 character. What is there to complain about? This event will be super painfull and take extremley long for all non PvPers...
Why will the event take super long.
The main achievement people are crying about e.g. 50 killing blows can be done in a hour via firing fire trebs at zergs.
So it will come down the RNG of who's damage tick is the final? great...
It will even out over time, its probably killing blows as 50 assist will go 10x faster.theher0not wrote: »leepalmer95 wrote: »theher0not wrote: »Enemoriana wrote: »I'm a little confused what the problem is here. 50 killing blows is pretty much child's play no matter what class you're on, and when you account for a large influx of non-PvPers it becomes even easier. If it was just 50 kill contributions people would just roll with a zerg and get the achievement in 10 seconds.
Of course it will be easier when a lot of non-PvPers will be there.
For PvPers.
And if you are one of those non-PvPers? Who didn't PvP before and will not PvP after, but wants achievements/something that those achievements give? That sounds not so easy.
For me this event sounds like a lot of suffering. Not because doing something unusual for me, that's not a problem, but because it would be really hard and absolutely not fun. And, yes, that's something not right with my build, because it is not for PvP and killstealing. Damn, that's even not some normal build, but it's enough for quests, exploring and doing public dungeons solo, and usually I don't need and want more. And changing absolutely everything, from skills and attributes to armor, for only some days and never again... that would be stupid and I don't have money enough to waste like this. PvE events could take some time, but they were not difficult both for PvE and PvP players. Not very interesting, maybe, but not difficult. And this event...
Oh man, that so triggered me..
Look, not all events are for everyone. As a die-hard PVPer, I have had absolultely no interest in every other event we have had since I started playing. Did I complain about them? NO - because I understand that there are people who play the game who like doing different things than I do who will be enjoying them.
Now we get one, ONE event aimed at the PVPer and the salt from the other side is unreal.. Oh noes, its gonna be hard, My build isn't right, I'm not gonna have fun.....
Ok, so here's some answers to those concerns.. These answers are total common sense and some are based on doing the same thing I did with other events.
1. Its gonna be hard.. Well, its gonna be harder if you don't have a decent build for it, you don't know how to PVP, if you don't want to try, to learn, to challenge yourself. But damn - 50 kills over a week, for a real PVPer is a ridiculously small number (remember who the event is aimed at).
2. Your build isn't right... If you want to take part and do well - GET A NEW BUILD. I understand that unlike the average PVPer, many PVEers are quite cash-rich. I mean all you really need to do is change some gear and skills. You can always change it back. I mean I have to use a different build to do PVP stuff to get gear so I can PVP..
3. You're not gonna have fun.. Well, only if you decide you're not before you start (ie going in with a closed mind) - and don't put any effort into trying to do well (ie getting a build, learning a bit about PVP first)
And the biggest bit of advice which applies to all 3 of the above - ESPECIALLY 3 - is that if you don't have fun - don't do it. This is what I did with the other events we've had. Running around from A to B, back to A, now to C, back to A.... noo - bored with that now, back to PVP. Yeah, I didn't get the achievement, some of the rewards etc... but so what? I had fun with my time doing what I like doing.
Simply put - Not every event is for everyone - if you don't like it, simply don't do it instead of pissing on everyone else's parade.
I havn't played the halloween event but the other 2 could literary be done in 1 hour even with a level 3 character. What is there to complain about? This event will be super painfull and take extremley long for all non PvPers...
Why will the event take super long.
The main achievement people are crying about e.g. 50 killing blows can be done in a hour via firing fire trebs at zergs.
So it will come down the RNG of who's damage tick is the final? great...
Ohhhh, PvP = Player vs Player, how you expect to kill that player as a tank or healer?
Go in Trials if you wanna tank or heal, both are useless in PvP if you are full spec on one, you need to be a mix of dps/tank/support on both healer and tank, not just one, PvP is not vMol.
I also didn't find all previous activity most interesting part of game. I did it because I needed something from it. I'm speaking not about interest, I speak about difficulty. As a PvPer, you also could easily do previous events.Oh man, that so triggered me..
Look, not all events are for everyone. As a die-hard PVPer, I have had absolultely no interest in every other event we have had since I started playing. Did I complain about them? NO - because I understand that there are people who play the game who like doing different things than I do who will be enjoying them.
It's a time like other events, it's in achievement section of other events, furniture for this achievements sells holiday achievement vendor, not that one from Cyrodil or somebody else...Now we get one, ONE event aimed at the PVPer and the salt from the other side is unreal..
I'm absolutely sure it's easy for real PvPer. Not so easy for others.But damn - 50 kills over a week, for a real PVPer is a ridiculously small number (remember who the event is aimed at).
Many, but not all. For many it's not just like throwing away few coins, it's a lot. I know people who didn't even see 50k!I understand that unlike the average PVPer, many PVEers are quite cash-rich. I mean all you really need to do is change some gear and skills. You can always change it back. I mean I have to use a different build to do PVP stuff to get gear so I can PVP..
I tried Cyrodil and found it a most empty and boring place in whole TESO.Well, only if you decide you're not before you start (ie going in with a closed mind) - and don't put any effort into trying to do well (ie getting a build, learning a bit about PVP first)
PvP has own achievements. I don't complain about not having them, and I understand that I can't have some alliance furniture.Simply put - Not every event is for everyone - if you don't like it, simply don't do it instead of pissing on everyone else's parade.
Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »Im just going to wait for the complaint threads after the event when people realize that unless youre in PvP all the time and youre also a regular PvPer with a PvP build. Youre likely not going to get 50 kills and anyone trying to be a completionist will not complete this in time.
If you can't collect recipes in time - you can at least buy them.I, for one, am much happier farming "killing blows" than motifs or recipes.
Prof_Bawbag wrote: »Pay me 70m and 1 potato and I'll stand there and allow you to kill me 50 times.
First of all, you have to get into Cyrodiil, you and all that friendsDrummerx04 wrote: »Guys, if you haven't figured out that you can gather a couple friends from different factions and then go to some far corner of cyrodiil
Toc de Malsvi wrote: »July 20th -31st.... 11 days...50/11=4.5
That is less than 5 kills per day. If you cannot get 5 kills per day you do not deserve an achievement.
Executes are still garbage if the target is above 50% health, this changes nothing about PVP.
Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »Im just going to wait for the complaint threads after the event when people realize that unless youre in PvP all the time and youre also a regular PvPer with a PvP build. Youre likely not going to get 50 kills and anyone trying to be a completionist will not complete this in time.