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No one play warden in IC?

Junkkis
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Had today tis kill 20 warden quest and 0/20 stat after 4 hour play...
Is warden really that bad class?
  • Rosveen
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    Nobody's playing warden in Cyrodiil either. Few people bought Morrowind, fewer still leveled a warden to 50 (mine's still level 16), most people probably want to get the achievement with their mains... Result: no wardens to be found. I actually saw two today, but one was on my side.
  • Chufu
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    Mh in PvP are the favorite classes those who do a lot of damage. Wayne if dying, but damage has to be good.

    So everyone would even choose a dragonknight or nightblade or sorcerer, but not a warden.

    Dislike that too, because I love my warden.

    #buffwarden

    And I don't know if the quest is still buggy with "kill 20 warden"?
  • Tryxus
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    For 10k Gold, I'll happily let you kill me 20 times for the quest completion :p 1.5k Tel Var if it's in IC

    Anyways, one of the 2 main reasons there aren't many Wardens in Cyro is because not everyone has bought Morrowind. The other is that not everyone likes the "slower" and more defensive gameplay of the class.

    Bit of a shame, really
    "Stand strong, stay true and shelter all."
    Tryxus - Guardian of the Green - Warden - PC/EU
  • s7732425ub17_ESO
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    Wardens are a very fun class to play. My Mag Warden recks in PVP.
  • leepalmer95
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    Tryxus wrote: »
    For 10k Gold, I'll happily let you kill me 20 times for the quest completion :p 1.5k Tel Var if it's in IC

    Anyways, one of the 2 main reasons there aren't many Wardens in Cyro is because not everyone has bought Morrowind. The other is that not everyone likes the "slower" and more defensive gameplay of the class.

    Bit of a shame, really

    And people are too lazy to level.

    Mages guild/ undaunted/ skill point etc..
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    Current CP : 756+

    I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.


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  • Keldheir
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    Also have the quest to kill 20 wardens. only 6/20 after two days. And we're huge groups fighting huge groups. Might abandon that quest.
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  • Junkkis
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    Keldheir wrote: »
    Also have the quest to kill 20 wardens. only 6/20 after two days. And we're huge groups fighting huge groups. Might abandon that quest.

    damm!
  • leepalmer95
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    Keldheir wrote: »
    Also have the quest to kill 20 wardens. only 6/20 after two days. And we're huge groups fighting huge groups. Might abandon that quest.

    I think that quest is bugged or something because its really slow for me too.

    And i feel its not going up enough when i do wipe groups. I usually just abandon it and have a friend share theirs.
    PS4 EU DC

    Current CP : 756+

    I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.


    RIP my effort to get 5x v16 characters...
  • Sylosi
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    There aren't many wardens, because firstlly not everyone has Morrowind to even have access to the class, secondly there are a lot of PvE players playing the PvP at the moment and Warden is not that popular in PvE because is not best at any role and is weak at the most common role of DPS and thirdly contrary to the crying of few who lack objectivity / are set in their ways, Warden is only decent at best at PvP, it's good in groups, but really no better than any other class, nor does it provide anything irreplaceable in the way say negate is, and for solo/skirmishing, etc it still a worse option than NB or Sorc.
  • Ghost-Shot
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    The kill warden quest is bugged. I tested it on my brand new warden and I got the grand warden slayer achievement(kill 100 wardens) before the quest hit 10/20. When you get it drop it and grab another.
  • Xvorg
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  • KeiruNicrom
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    Ive seen a few. Ally and enemy alike. Not enough to kill 20 in a reasonable amount of time though. I suggest doing this one last and getting the other kill quests shared to you and completed first
  • leepalmer95
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    Sylosi wrote: »
    There aren't many wardens, because firstlly not everyone has Morrowind to even have access to the class, secondly there are a lot of PvE players playing the PvP at the moment and Warden is not that popular in PvE because is not best at any role and is weak at the most common role of DPS and thirdly contrary to the crying of few who lack objectivity / are set in their ways, Warden is only decent at best at PvP, it's good in groups, but really no better than any other class, nor does it provide anything irreplaceable in the way say negate is, and for solo/skirmishing, etc it still a worse option than NB or Sorc.

    Lmao after playing warden over the last week both solo/duo and small scale its very strong in groups.

    Provides 10% max hp to everyone, with almost 100% uptime. Basically a built it Well passive.

    Has an aoe major defile on a skill with a decent radius which also heals for a lot after 6s had a few 14k~ healing crits. Which is on a skill that heals everything in it. Amazing in group fights, basically a must in keep fights, throwing this on a flag changes the game.

    Has a very cheap and very effective healing ult, X amount of healing everything in it for 6s. Also heals X amount over 4 seconds after it ends, the second part on my tooltip is 30k over 4s and i'm a dps setup, not a healer with anything into healing really.

    Has an offensive/ utility ult thats a very strong in a group:

    - Aoe MOVING major protection which is amazing. Basically makes everyone in it take 30% less dmg which is great when your running into a bigger group with ults or even just popped mid fight.
    - Aoe 70% snare, makes everything you hit come to a standstill and reapplies every 1s so it can't even be purged, great synergy when used with other ults as it makes wiping easy, stops people running.
    - Aoe dmg is decent, its not amazing its around 60% of a destro ult tooltip but lasts 1s longer. The damage it noticable but not amazing.
    - More importantly all of these allow you to set up 3~ deep fissures while the ultimate is on. When people are slowed, your taking less dmg and doing aoe and then you start throwing Aoe 19k tooltip shalk which are hitting 7-12k~ on a lot of of people at once is where mag wardens show their insane aoe and burst.

    Literally all of its skills go through roll, wardens are the bane of anything medium. In a group a warden can easily snipe something from long range with just pigeons. Highest pigeon i've crit is 14k. Usually vs medium/light its around 9k~ crits.

    Against anything medium they stand no chance, against stam nbs an imov/detect pot and they stand no chance, literally nothing they can do.

    Wardens also provide some decent hot's while even on dps builds. They have so much utility.
    PS4 EU DC

    Current CP : 756+

    I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.


    RIP my effort to get 5x v16 characters...
  • kargen27
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    I've seen a lot of mushrooms and trees popping up and lots of flying lizards bopping me for there to be no Wardens. Maybe they just don't die easy? I know a guild mate has between 50-60K health on his warden and isn't even in best gear yet. He doesn't hit hard but he can contribute more than just stand there a looking pretty to the group.
    and then the parrot said, "must be the water mines green too."
  • Wreuntzylla
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    No wardens? Last night, Alfred Hitchcock was on the milegate. Birds and fissures everywhere.

    Probably not in IC because hippies. Hippies don't live in cities.

  • phileunderx2
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    I'm playing my mag warden in kyne. Sent her there yesterday and have already made almost 450 k ap.
  • Megabear
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    My main is a Warden. My body is ready, who wants some.
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  • ParaNostram
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    Rosveen wrote: »
    Nobody's playing warden in Cyrodiil either. Few people bought Morrowind, fewer still leveled a warden to 50 (mine's still level 16), most people probably want to get the achievement with their mains... Result: no wardens to be found. I actually saw two today, but one was on my side.

    Idk, seems you have a very loose definition of "few people."
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  • Legoless
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    I've been cycling this kill quest constantly. No point trying to find 20 Wardens when double AP is on the line.
  • Waffennacht
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    No wardens? Last night, Alfred Hitchcock was on the milegate. Birds and fissures everywhere.

    Probably not in IC because hippies. Hippies don't live in cities.

    I'm a Warden and I find this post awesome
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  • HorrorShow
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    Thematically the Warden just doesn't appeal to me. Why animals? Why not undead minions? Really don't see to many posts asking for PETA the class. A lot of posts asking for necromancers.

    Reading is hard for devs to do.
    "Never go in, miss. Never say a prayer at its door. If you are angry, do not seek revenge by the Laughing Maiden Stone, or at the threshold of the Tombs. There be those who listen for oaths and vows...What may be said in innocence and ire becomes flesh and blood in such places."
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  • MLGProPlayer
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    - Not everyone has Morrowind
    - Not everyone made a warden

    They're terrible in PvE, so a lot of people avoided making one. While others just might not like the play style.
    Edited by MLGProPlayer on July 21, 2017 11:31PM
  • Tryxus
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    HorrorShow wrote: »
    Thematically the Warden just doesn't appeal to me. Why animals? Why not undead minions? Really don't see to many posts asking for PETA the class. A lot of posts asking for necromancers.

    Reading is hard for devs to do.

    Because the Warden was originally meant to be the 5th class in this game, but got scrapped before Beta. Logically, the first new class we would get would be just that one
    - Not everyone has Morrowind
    - Not everyone made a warden

    They're terrible in PvE, so a lot of people avoided making one. While others just might not like the play style.

    Only for DPS, which just happens to be the most popular and most common role
    Edited by Tryxus on July 21, 2017 11:41PM
    "Stand strong, stay true and shelter all."
    Tryxus - Guardian of the Green - Warden - PC/EU
  • Megabear
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    - Not everyone has Morrowind
    - Not everyone made a warden

    They're terrible in PvE, so a lot of people avoided making one. While others just might not like the play style.

    Wardens make excellent tanks and healers.
    Guide to making $$$ in Tamriel: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/370618/guide-to-making-gold-in-eso/p1?new=1
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    Warden Bow Healer/DPS Hybrid Build: http://tamrielfoundry.com/topic/warden-bow-healerdps-hybrid/
    Warden "The Warladin" Healer/Tank Hybrid Build: http://tamrielfoundry.com/topic/warden-the-warladin-healertank-hybrid-build/
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    What Can Go Wong - (S) Night Blade/Male/Bosmer
    Izaer - (M) Templar/Male/Breton
  • Prof_Bawbag
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    It's bugged. My warden death count rose by 30 from when I picked it up, yet the quest remains at 9/10. Nothing to do with there not being enough and everything to do with it being yet another bug amongst many.

    Edited by Prof_Bawbag on July 21, 2017 11:44PM
  • Yolokin_Swagonborn
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    Warden was a stupid gimmick just designed to sell Moronwind boxes and try to justify calling it a "Chapter" instead of a DLC for the purpose of betraying loyal subscribers and funneling money into ZOS's coffers.

    The class just isn't worth it because we really didn't need a 5th class, we needed an overhaul of the existing classes.

    Everyone should refuse to play warden on general principle. But it looks like no one plays it anyway.
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