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Why does Midyear Mayhem require 50 killing blows, rather than 5000 kill contributions?

  • Morvane
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    Just slot an execute and spam away, how I get my kills on Sorc, spam mages fury at low health players

    first u make post how easy to excute with sorc
    then u read about sorc nerf in patchnotes
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  • Danksta
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    SanTii.92 wrote: »
    jaburns wrote: »
    50 Killing Blows shouldn't be too hard... unless, of course, your class is "unique" for not having an execute or any way to use an execute... and most of your "special" class abilities are easily purged.

    @Wrobel thanks.
    Do you think everyone is a templar or something

    1. Templars ability has a synergy that purges
    2. Purge is available to all players
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  • dodgehopper_ESO
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    It does seem pretty advantageous for Sorcs.
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  • idk
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    I have to agree with OP. This is a terribad idea. It's discriminatory against certain classes and roles.

    I know life's not fair and all, but still, intentionally designing a competitive game unfairly is something only bad designers do. Be better than that, ZOS.

    When entering Cyrodiil everyone is a combatant. Regardless of role everyone needs to be able to do some dps. If only takes a heavy, heck, light attack, to get the killing blow.
  • Troneon
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    First they hide timed event achievements behind pay walls and now this....

    gg ZOS


    Edited by Troneon on July 19, 2017 6:47PM
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  • Sigtric
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    Just slot an execute and spam away, how I get my kills on Sorc, spam mages fury at low health players

    I'll get back to you on that, give me a few minutes to sort out my mag DK execute.

    As a mDK main... I haz a sad.

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  • Kay1
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    Ohhhh, PvP = Player vs Player, how you expect to kill that player as a tank or healer?

    Go in Trials if you wanna tank or heal, both are useless in PvP if you are full spec on one, you need to be a mix of dps/tank/support on both healer and tank, not just one, PvP is not vMol.
    Edited by Kay1 on July 19, 2017 7:07PM
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  • Soleya
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    Typhoios wrote: »
    Soleya wrote: »
    50 kill contributions would take about 20 minutes, it is supposed to be an achievement not a handout.

    Yes, because the achievement for "Capture a resource" and "Capture a IC Flag" are hard work.

    So because some of the achievements are easy they should all be easy?

    Also, 50 killing blows over multiple days isn't exactly hard.

    Most of the time getting killing blows has nothing to do with skill, its just luck you got the last blow in.

    Also I never said it was hard. It's just a stupid achievement. Should have been 50 kills, or even 100 kills, would have made way more sense for the various play styles (healer, tank, etc).

    Actually I think the worst achievement of the event is the "WIn a Battleground" one. I had the quest for winning 3 of them. Won first two in a row and then went on a 12 round losing streak. I keep ending up in 2 player groups vs 4 players on both opposite teams. Just ends up having more to do with luck than actual skill.
  • Valen_Byte
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    50 kb isnt bad over a week. I play MagDK and I get around 20 each session. A lot of them are just from Talons. If they were going on just assist kills the number should be much much higher, around 1000.
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  • idk
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    Troneon wrote: »
    First they hide timed event achievements behind pay walls and now this....

    gg ZOS


    @Troneon

    Yes. It is gg of Zos to have a PvP event that encompasses the full spectrum of PvP areas the game has. Good thing they chose to not be so restricted to only the base game. Geez that would be small thinking.

    And if still includes Cyrodiil so everyone can get most of the loot available.
  • ComboBreaker88
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    50 blows for a week long event isn't much at all. You can do that in an hour
  • laksikus
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    BOMB THEM ALL

    i expect to be done with 50 kills after one hour prime time bombing :>
  • SanTii.92
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    Danksta wrote: »
    SanTii.92 wrote: »
    jaburns wrote: »
    50 Killing Blows shouldn't be too hard... unless, of course, your class is "unique" for not having an execute or any way to use an execute... and most of your "special" class abilities are easily purged.

    @Wrobel thanks.
    Do you think everyone is a templar or something

    1. Templars ability has a synergy that purges
    2. Purge is available to all players
    1. not everyne hangs out with templars, nor these are spaming purge
    2. a prohibitly expensive skill, i would wish my opponent would run it.
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  • MyKillv2.0
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    Troneon wrote: »
    First they hide timed event achievements behind pay walls and now this....

    gg ZOS


    @Troneon

    Yes. It is gg of Zos to have a PvP event that encompasses the full spectrum of PvP areas the game has. Good thing they chose to not be so restricted to only the base game. Geez that would be small thinking.

    And if still includes Cyrodiil so everyone can get most of the loot available.

    Exactly. I am a terrible PVPer and average about 5/10kills per BG. Couple hours, tops on this achievement.
  • Paazhahdrimaak
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    Well I guess I am not gonna get it on my four main characters.
    Edited by Paazhahdrimaak on July 19, 2017 8:41PM
  • itehache
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    I started practicing to steal kills in the battleground's deathmatch. I hope my training was enough :lol: I always have way more contributions than kills, trust me I am also an achievement hunter and it sucks that I have to kill, not only contribute. I guess this will make me be even more of a battleground/cyrodiil butcher lol
  • KingYogi415
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    If you cant get 5 kills per battleground match, somthing is very wrong with your build!
    Edited by KingYogi415 on July 19, 2017 9:23PM
  • Asgari
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    50kb is nothing .. even the most casual of player can do that with siege in 1 major keep fight
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  • leepalmer95
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    50 killing blows is easy af.

    If it wasn't killing blows they i'd just use an random aoe and get it in like 2 fights.


    If your really that bad at pvp and have no idea what your doing just buy some fire trebs or even cold fire trebs and use it on a zerg.
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  • leepalmer95
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    SanTii.92 wrote: »
    Danksta wrote: »
    SanTii.92 wrote: »
    jaburns wrote: »
    50 Killing Blows shouldn't be too hard... unless, of course, your class is "unique" for not having an execute or any way to use an execute... and most of your "special" class abilities are easily purged.

    @Wrobel thanks.
    Do you think everyone is a templar or something

    1. Templars ability has a synergy that purges
    2. Purge is available to all players
    1. not everyne hangs out with templars, nor these are spaming purge
    2. a prohibitly expensive skill, i would wish my opponent would run it.

    Most large groups are like 50% templars today.

    Found a 15~ man red group farming a tower and literally 10 of them was 30k~ hp magplars.
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  • Kr3do
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    How dare you ZOS actually asking us to do something for an achievement.
    Next time just give it instantly to everyone when the event starts :'(
  • Zendran
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    I'm a little confused what the problem is here. 50 killing blows is pretty much child's play no matter what class you're on, and when you account for a large influx of non-PvPers it becomes even easier. If it was just 50 kill contributions people would just roll with a zerg and get the achievement in 10 seconds.
    Edited by Zendran on July 19, 2017 9:43PM
  • Luigi_Vampa
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    Soleya wrote: »
    Typhoios wrote: »
    Soleya wrote: »
    50 kill contributions would take about 20 minutes, it is supposed to be an achievement not a handout.

    Yes, because the achievement for "Capture a resource" and "Capture a IC Flag" are hard work.

    So because some of the achievements are easy they should all be easy?

    Also, 50 killing blows over multiple days isn't exactly hard.

    Most of the time getting killing blows has nothing to do with skill, its just luck you got the last blow in.

    Also I never said it was hard. It's just a stupid achievement. Should have been 50 kills, or even 100 kills, would have made way more sense for the various play styles (healer, tank, etc).

    Actually I think the worst achievement of the event is the "WIn a Battleground" one. I had the quest for winning 3 of them. Won first two in a row and then went on a 12 round losing streak. I keep ending up in 2 player groups vs 4 players on both opposite teams. Just ends up having more to do with luck than actual skill.

    It's a PvP event achievement and so far all I've seen is people who don't PvP a lot complaining about it. This is because PvPers know it won't take much time at all to get 50 killing blows. Slotting an execute if your class has one, coldfire seige into a zerg, pour oil on a zerg are just some of the ways to get killing blows as part of a zerg. Or, you can just kill people by yourself and you will get the killing blow.

    And just one last tip for those who truly believe this will be hard, annoying or just stupid to get. Get a friend in another alliance. Go to IC, or get a camp and put it out of the way and kill your friend 50 times and yay! I achieved something!
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  • Paazhahdrimaak
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    If you cant get 5 kills per battleground match, somthing is very wrong with your build!

    It's difficult when your a healer, but if it wasn't for ones heals you would lose the round.
  • leepalmer95
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    If you cant get 5 kills per battleground match, somthing is very wrong with your build!

    It's difficult when your a healer, but if it wasn't for ones heals you would lose the round.

    Slot a single damage skill.
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  • Wing
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    as a solo support / tank in pvp on a DK this achievement is figuratively impossible for me.

    I'm not a go for broke dps character, a procblade, beamplar, or KSing Sorc.

    had it been 500 kill contribution I would have been fine, so would all those healers and other players out there, it would have taken some time but you can make it.

    but trying to run people down for kills? fighting all the aforementioned builds on a class with no burst, no execute, and a build designed around helping others?

    nope



    I have therefore enlisted the aid of some nice guildies to make new level 10's and let me farm them till I get 50 kills



    I didn't want to do this, I just wanted to play, but the method I would be forced to play in order to grab the achievement is in far to specific of a playstyle to be conducive with myself, my class, my build, and my playstyle.

    epic fail ZOS, you could have done that one better, its just an event, it does not have to be so restrictive, that was dumb. more people play pvp then go for broke DPS and proctards, even if it does not seem that way.
    Edited by Wing on July 19, 2017 10:15PM
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  • leepalmer95
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    Wing wrote: »
    as a solo support / tank in pvp on a DK this achievement is figuratively impossible for me.

    I'm not a go for broke dps character, a procblade, beamplar, or KSing Sorc.

    had it been 500 kill contribution I would have been fine, so would all those healers and other players out there, it would have taken some time but you can make it.

    but trying to run people down for kills? fighting all the aforementioned builds on a class with no burst, no execute, and a build designed around helping others?

    nope



    I have therefore enlisted the aid of some nice guildies to make new level 10's and let me farm them till I get 50 kills



    I didn't want to do this, I just wanted to play, but the method I would be forced to play in order to grab the achievement is in far to specific of a playstyle to be conducive with myself, my class, my build, and my playstyle.

    epic fail ZOS, you could have done that one better, its just an event, it does not have to be so restrictive, that was dumb.

    As 'support/ tank' build.

    E.g. a guy with 40k~ hp who has 0 damage and just holds block and expects people to hit them.

    I'm sure you can get some siege and drop block for 2 seconds to spam it into a zerg. You don't to cheese the achievement.
    Edited by leepalmer95 on July 19, 2017 10:16PM
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  • SquareSausage
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    So how much AP do you need to get to get this:

    "Acquire your 25th "Pelinal's Midyear Boon Box".?
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  • Enemoriana
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    Zendran wrote: »
    I'm a little confused what the problem is here. 50 killing blows is pretty much child's play no matter what class you're on, and when you account for a large influx of non-PvPers it becomes even easier. If it was just 50 kill contributions people would just roll with a zerg and get the achievement in 10 seconds.

    Of course it will be easier when a lot of non-PvPers will be there.
    For PvPers.
    And if you are one of those non-PvPers? Who didn't PvP before and will not PvP after, but wants achievements/something that those achievements give? That sounds not so easy.

    For me this event sounds like a lot of suffering. Not because doing something unusual for me, that's not a problem, but because it would be really hard and absolutely not fun. And, yes, that's something not right with my build, because it is not for PvP and killstealing. Damn, that's even not some normal build, but it's enough for quests, exploring and doing public dungeons solo, and usually I don't need and want more. And changing absolutely everything, from skills and attributes to armor, for only some days and never again... that would be stupid and I don't have money enough to waste like this. PvE events could take some time, but they were not difficult both for PvE and PvP players. Not very interesting, maybe, but not difficult. And this event...
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  • leepalmer95
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    So how much AP do you need to get to get this:

    "Acquire your 25th "Pelinal's Midyear Boon Box".?

    Depends

    I think it's 20k~ per rewards.

    Then you include your quests the kill ones can pretty much be done epr fight if you in a big enoug groups.

    Others are a little big trickier but some are still easy such as the resources/ scout.

    With double ap it'll be twice as fast usual and there will be more ap to go around as there will be more people in pvp overall.
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    I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.


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