Why does Midyear Mayhem require 50 killing blows, rather than 5000 kill contributions?

Transairion · July 2017

Is the achievement for killing players final blow only (like kill achievements), or just tagging them (as per the dailies in Cyrodiil)?

You must land the killing blow for it to count toward the achievement, similarly to Imperial City and Battleground achievements.

Isn't this a little strict for a one week event? It only seems to further encourage burst damage builds and wearing as many proc sets as possible. Tanks, healers and DPS that aren't focused on a burst-based build just seem to be out of luck since only the player that deals the fatal tick of damage (even if literally 1 damage) will get credit, instead of everyone who contributes enough damage.

It is a "holiday event", not sure why 5000 kill contributions couldn't have been a freebie achievement for participating in enough conflicts over the event

Update: Upon participating in the event myself I did achieve 50 kills within the day, but it was very much by changing my playstyle to spamming my execute ability on any lower-health target I got in my sights. I'm actually having more fun now I can use non-execute abilities and just be "support DPS" and heal. But since even I managed to get 50 kills in a day (even if playing that distasteful way), I've re-evaluated my opinion to the achievement having been 5000 kill contributions instead. Playing all day, my contributions were well into the hundreds if not thousand-range already so it would be perfectly doable within a week and wouldn't require changing your playstyle or leave tanks/heals out of luck.

As far as the recommendations to use Siege weapons on zergs, I had no success with that at all personally. Got maybe 2-3 killing blows

Sunburnt_Penguin · July 2017

Siege them.

JamieAubrey · July 2017

Just slot an execute and spam away, how I get my kills on Sorc, spam mages fury at low health players

Strider_Roshin · July 2017

It's easy if you're a sorc. You don't even really need to do much fighting. Just spam Mage's Fury on enemies that others are fighting, and steal kills. Such a dumb system.

Reece_P17 · July 2017

Jump on a Templar and just Jesus beam everybody.

theher0not · July 2017

JamieAubrey wrote: »

Just slot an execute and spam away, how I get my kills on Sorc, spam mages fury at low health players

What about us healers? All I can do is slot dive and hope for the best...

AzraelKrieg · July 2017

theher0not wrote: »

JamieAubrey wrote: »

Just slot an execute and spam away, how I get my kills on Sorc, spam mages fury at low health players

What about us healers? All I can do is slot dive and hope for the best...

If you're a templar, slot Radiant. If you're a sorc healer (god help you if you are), slot Mage's Fury

Wing · July 2017

Transairion wrote: »

Is the achievement for killing players final blow only (like kill achievements), or just tagging them (as per the dailies in Cyrodiil)?

You must land the killing blow for it to count toward the achievement, similarly to Imperial City and Battleground achievements.

Isn't this a little strict for a one week event? It only seems to further encourage burst damage builds and wearing as many proc sets as possible. Tanks, healers and DPS that aren't focused on a burst-based build just seem to be out of luck since only the player that deals the fatal tick of damage (even if literally 1 damage) will get credit, instead of everyone who contributes enough damage.

It is a "holiday event", not sure why 50 kill contributions couldn't have been a freebie achievement for participating in enough conflicts over the event

I agree.

easy mode for the already easy mode sorcs, like the don't spam fury to kill steal enough as it is.

DK is pretty screwed as it has no built in execute, same with tanks and healers.

this was def the worst achievement out of all of em, its the most problematic.

k9mouse · July 2017

It might be easier in small scale PVP like Battlegrounds or in IC instead of zergs?

Liofa · July 2017

I can feel tears of mDKs because they don't have execute .

Ulo · July 2017

Really don't like the sound of this, its just gonna promote everyone spamming execute abilities on the same target and god forbid if you want to tank or heal. Lets hope it's a typo or i'd better break out the sorc and nb dps if i want any chance of getting all the achievements.

Prof_Bawbag · July 2017

Pay me 70m and 1 potato and I'll stand there and allow you to kill me 50 times.

Keep_Door · July 2017

Just geared up my stamNB for ganking. Hehe good timing on my part.

Idinuse · July 2017

Reece_P17 wrote: »

Jump on a Templar and just Jesus beam everybody.

Jump on a Sorcerer and Kill Steal everything.

ParaNostram · July 2017

Well it's supposed to be an achievement you get over the course of the event as you gain the other achievements. I do admit it may be difficult to get especially if you run with the zerg and especially if you haven't access to a solid execute.

DeadlyRecluse · July 2017

It's kind of frustrating, but 50 KBs over 11 days isn't too bad, except for pure healers. Even then, just hop on an oil/fire balli for a few sieges each night and you'll get it done.

Ulo · July 2017

Prof_Bawbag wrote: »

Pay me 70m and 1 potato and I'll stand there and allow you to kill me 50 times.

Ok, i'll give you the potato first and the 70 mil after the jobs done.

idk · July 2017

theher0not wrote: »

JamieAubrey wrote: »

Just slot an execute and spam away, how I get my kills on Sorc, spam mages fury at low health players

What about us healers? All I can do is slot dive and hope for the best...

Most healers do not have dive. Some have mages fury, radiant, etc.

SelfTherapy · July 2017

Going to be near impossible on my mag dk lmao, always getting assists.

TequilaFire · July 2017

Cold Fire ballista aimed right at the heart of the yellow zerg outside the keep.

The_Lex · July 2017

Transairion wrote: »

Is the achievement for killing players final blow only (like kill achievements), or just tagging them (as per the dailies in Cyrodiil)?

You must land the killing blow for it to count toward the achievement, similarly to Imperial City and Battleground achievements.

Isn't this a little strict for a one week event? It only seems to further encourage burst damage builds and wearing as many proc sets as possible. Tanks, healers and DPS that aren't focused on a burst-based build just seem to be out of luck since only the player that deals the fatal tick of damage (even if literally 1 damage) will get credit, instead of everyone who contributes enough damage.

It is a "holiday event", not sure why 50 kill contributions couldn't have been a freebie achievement for participating in enough conflicts over the event

Nothing has changed. This has been ZOS' plan all along for PvP.

Vercingetorix · July 2017

What's the matter? Aren't you an execute-spammer from the back of a zerg like the other 99% of the playerbase? LOL

Zenimax clearly used their "hard data" to design the achievements around the popular "Jesus Soul Assault", "Destro-Ult Broom", and "Selene's I'm-Not-Really-Nerfed One-Shot" builds.

Reverb · July 2017

Because the devs love their Sorcs, and haven't considered that people do anything besides spam Mage's Wrath.

Knootewoot · July 2017

Well, time to switch to stamblade and wear the old viper/selene/red mountain outfit.

BrightOblivion · July 2017

Ok, this achievement seems poorly thought out, particularly when it's encouraging everybody and their dog to slot executes and snag any kill they can from everyone else, who's also slotting executes.

Sounds like tons of fun. Maybe I'll play siege/countersiege and hope for the best.

Hoked_on_ponix · July 2017

If you can't get 50 killing blows in a week then you need to rethink your build. Healers should still have decent amount of max magic and spell damage to get kills. Just leave your health tank out of PVP.

Scyantific · July 2017

Buy Oils
Go to outpost
Wait for Potato Zerg to show up
Profit from kills

This is particularly effective against NA PC DC in Sotha

Wing · July 2017

siege is not an effective kill tool on CP campaigns btw (including vivec, the only one that matters ^_^)

Tenn60 · July 2017

I think they should bring back the brooms and make it 100 killing blows with a broom light attack!

Crom_CCCXVI · July 2017

50 kill contributions would take about 20 minutes, it is supposed to be an achievement not a handout.

Feanor · July 2017

50 killing blows is not really much. Of course it's a lot easier if you have an execute, but most mDKs use Leap as execute, and Wardens can spam their damn Cliff Racers.