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Are you happy with the nerf on proc sets?
ParaNostram
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Personally I feel like the proc set meta can't die fast enough.
Edited by ParaNostram on July 18, 2017 5:22PM
"Your mistake is you begged for your life, not for mercy. I will show you there are many fates worse than death."
Para Nostram
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Para Nostram
Bosmer Sorceress
Witch of Evermore
"Death is a privilege that can be denied by it's learned scholars."
Order of the Black Worm
Are you happy with the nerf on proc sets? 167 votes
Yes!
70%
118 votes
No (muh Vipers!)
29%
49 votes
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Sigtric✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭No: needs more nerfs
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max_only✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Other: don't care. I assume your happiness is because of damage based procsets.
The only "proc set" I use is a support set (Rkugamz, Lord Warden, Engine Guardian etc)#FiteForYourRite Bosmer = Stealth
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josiahva✭✭✭✭✭
✭No (muh Vipers!)No. I feel all this will do is lead to another nerf on something else, then another nerf....then another nerf...then another nerf. The problem is lack of counterplay with players. If its not this set that is "killing" you, it will be another set or skill. All this does is kick the can down the road, eventually they will run out of road to kick the can down. The logical conclusion of all this is a PvP environment in which there are no sets or skills, just light and heavy attacking players.8 -
Marabornwingrion✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭No (muh Vipers!)Viper is not a big problem for me in PvP in my current setup.
I'm not happy because again my PvE monster sets will be nerfed (grothdarr, ilambris) which means my dps will go down.5 -
Enemy-of-Coldharbour✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭No (muh Vipers!)The only people happy about the nerfs are the ones who are too lazy to farm their own sets or have L2P issues.
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NBrookus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Withholding judgment. I don't like armor doing damage for you, but ZOS does, and within that framework the nerfs look good on paper overall. How it plays out during the next patch remains to be seen; you can't really test open world PVP on PTS. But I'm happy they didn't just sledgehammer everything.4 -
SanTii.92✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yes!
The only people that not happy about the nerfs are the ones worried about not being able to kill anyone post patch.Enemy-of-Coldharbour wrote: »The only people happy about the nerfs are the ones who are too lazy to farm their own sets or have L2P issues.
And Astrid, who just wants clearly overperforming gear to remain as is (sharp, those sets).When the snows fall and the white winds blow,
the lone wolf dies, but the pack survives.
Arg | Pc Na | Factionless Mag Warden.3 -
ParaNostram✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Yes!No. I feel all this will do is lead to another nerf on something else, then another nerf....then another nerf...then another nerf. The problem is lack of counterplay with players. If its not this set that is "killing" you, it will be another set or skill. All this does is kick the can down the road, eventually they will run out of road to kick the can down. The logical conclusion of all this is a PvP environment in which there are no sets or skills, just light and heavy attacking players.
TLDR - game will always be unbalanced so stop trying to fix itEnemy-of-Coldharbour wrote: »The only people happy about the nerfs are the ones who are too lazy to farm their own sets or have L2P issues.
TLDR - Build diversity? Wha' that?"Your mistake is you begged for your life, not for mercy. I will show you there are many fates worse than death."
Para Nostram
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Witch of Evermore
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Beardimus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭No (muh Vipers!)Nope, no were near enough in particular the stamina sets.
All new Proc sets since OneT need a review.
It's such dull playstyle.Xbox One | EU | EP
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Delgent✭✭✭No (muh Vipers!)I only PvP to unlock the skills, then get out as quickly as possible. The constant nerfs are just getting old. It's the reason I finally left the last game I played after over 10 years. You find a play style you enjoy, it gets changed because you're killing things with it.
I haven't used proc sets personally. I'm just tired of the nerf everything mentality. If it works, nerf or homogenize it. Fix armor once and for all by having one set with the same stats for everyone. Heavy and light attacks only... problem solved.
I have a job, I have a house to take care of, I have other responsibilities in life... I don't need ESO to become another task I have to figure out because the devs are playing with the balance dart board again.
It's one of the reasons I log in less and less these days. It's becoming more like work and less like leisure. The market really needs another option.To live for good is to die in the name of honor.
SEEK AND DESTROY4 -
PlagueSD✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yes!If by "nerf" you mean "buff", then yes. I'm happy. My Red Mountain set damage actually increased. AND I can further increase with my class damage buffs. Selene's is the same way. It actually got a damage buff. Since I don't PvP, I don't have to worry about bosses dodging my procs.
I'm also happy about the change to the Warden bear. I can now use it properly like a hunter in WoW. It won't instantly agro mobs as soon as I send it in so I can properly deploy my AOE's as the bear is running in to maul faces.
I can't wait for next month to arrive!!!2 -
Mazbt✭✭✭✭Yes!People crying are salty they are losing their pvp proctard builds (even tho selene's and skoria remain untouched)Mazari the Resurrected (AD)- PVP stamplar main
Maz the Druid - PVP group stam warden
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LadyNalcarya✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭No (muh Vipers!)Well, viper was nerfed but proc sets will still be meta, so it wasnt a global change. Pvp still needs blaancing, and most importantly, pvp and pve should be balanced separately. So, no, I'm not really happy.
Also, biased poll is biased. I dont even play stam chars lol.Dro-m'Athra Destroyer | Divayth Fyr's Coadjutor | Voice of Reason
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Cardhwion✭✭✭No (muh Vipers!)As I am of the strict opinion that every nerf that is done for the sake of PVP and does have effects in PVE is always and generally wrong, I dislike the nerf.
I simply hate that something is changed in PVE just because the PVPers are whining."Why did I follow him...? I don't know. Why do things happen as they do in dreams? All I know is that, when he beckoned... I had to follow him. From that moment, we traveled together, East. Always... into the East."4 -
Voxicity✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭No (muh Vipers!)Viper isn't a proc set.
It activates every 4 seconds dealing x amount of damage. There is no programmed random occurrence happening with the set whatsoever.7 -
Juhasow✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Yes!Although some further changes could be nice.Edited by Juhasow on July 18, 2017 7:21PM0 -
ParaNostram✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Yes!The biggest thing, I'll be real, is the fact that there is counterplay against these proc sets. It's no longer instant free burst you down and see you die sets. 1 seconds is forever in PvP. In PvE, the sets still look as viable as they looked before."Your mistake is you begged for your life, not for mercy. I will show you there are many fates worse than death."
Para Nostram
Bosmer Sorceress
Witch of Evermore
"Death is a privilege that can be denied by it's learned scholars."
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Asardes✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Yes!Adding clearer telegraphs, delays and changing some from direct damage to DoTs was actually a smart move. Much better than the previous nerf that simply removed the crit.Beta tester since February 2014, played ESO-TU October 2015 - August 2022, currently on an extended break
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leepalmer95✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭No (muh Vipers!)No the nerfs aren't enough.
They think the damage on selene is 'ok', they left tremor snare and left skoria.
My selene has a 17k tooltip on my nb. 'Balanced'PS4 EU DC
Current CP : 756+
I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.
RIP my effort to get 5x v16 characters...1 -
Sylosi✭✭✭✭✭
✭Doesn't really matter, the game is full of imbalanced, cheesy stuff, it won't alter that ESO will still be a joke as a competitive, skilled PvP game.1 -
WuffyCerulei✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Yes!Some sets just ruined non-CP pvp and Battlegrounds since you could mow down players in a couple moves with Selene's/Velidreth combined with Widowmaker/Viper/Red Mountain since the damage stacked, was all of a sudden, and the latter 3 sets' damage was unavoidable. In CP campaigns, CP allows for more damage mitigation, so they rarely one-shot people there. Now Viper can be cleansed, and Red Mountain and Widowmaker are way more obvious and most likely avoidable. Also with the resistance buffs to set bonuses, they won't hit as hard.Edited by WuffyCerulei on July 18, 2017 9:07PM"Buzz Lightyear toy isle shot" Stormcalling/Animal Companions/Assassination PVP build hater
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