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did the math, it will take me 90 years to hit grand overlord XD i give up now.

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was even generous with my numbers and rounded my AP gain up in favor of an even number.

based on my current pvp effort since launch (rounded up total AP gain, and rounded down game life to 3 years)

and calculating total AP required (rounded DOWN to only 60,000,000 AP)

it would take me 90 years to hit rank 50. . .

I instantly gave up, pvp rank and ap gain is simply not designed for the casual pvp player. unless your good, in a guild or group designed for pvp, and can constantly dedicate the majority of your playtime to it, don't bother.

or wait for the next bleakers ap flip exploit (shame on you! :p)

EDIT:

if you would like to see how long it would take you.

calculate your current amount of total AP (based on your alliance rank) https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/96794/64-680-700-alliance-points-required-to-get-to-pvp-rank-50/p1

divide the AP cap (around 64 million ap) by that number. giving you X

then multiply that number (X) by the number of years you have been playing pvp.

and tada, there is your rough estimate.
Edited by Wing on July 18, 2017 12:03PM
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  • Jitterbug
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    worth
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    Jitterbug wrote: »
    worth

    right! XD
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  • GreyWolf_79
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    Don't give up - just think of how jealous all the other people in the nursing home would be!

    Seriously though, I don't think most high level achievements in MMOs (or even some single player games) are meant to be attainable by casuals. Or even most hardcores. Those achievements are reserved for the hardcorest of the hardcore, the ones who end up dying in front of their screens because they forgot to take a break to eat or sleep.
  • gp1680
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    Have you factored in the double AP events? It might bring that number down to 85 years or so.
  • Wing
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    gp1680 wrote: »
    Have you factored in the double AP events? It might bring that number down to 85 years or so.

    LOL

    I actually did play quite a bit during the double ap event, but I didn't take part in any of the bleakers flipping shenanagins and just played as I normally do, guess I missed out :C
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    Wing wrote: »
    I instantly gave up, pvp rank and ap gain is simply not designed for the casual pvp player. unless your good, in a guild or group designed for pvp, and can constantly dedicate the majority of your playtime to it, don't bother.
    Equip a resto staff and follow your pug groups around, you don't have to be good or in a group to do that.
    Keep your AP buff up too
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  • Merlin13KAGL
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    That's only 45 years with double AP events though... ;)

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    hmm, perhaps if I was a Breton for that 1% ap gain I could skim some time off to :D
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  • DivinityDay
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    gp1680 wrote: »
    Have you factored in the double AP events? It might bring that number down to 85 years or so.

    85? Well in that case.... *runs out the door staff in hand*
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  • Voxicity
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    Meh. My wife and I play pretty casually, maybe a couple of hours per day with quite a few days off. We aren't that great players but just duoing in Vivec this past campaign we got 3.5mil AP each. Usually we hit around 50k per hour and that's literally just leeching keep ticks because we're terrible people :D
  • Feanor
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    Only 42 million to go. That's 4 more years. Doable.
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    Feanor wrote: »
    Only 42 million to go. That's 4 more years. Doable.

    hey yeah grats that's much more manageable ^_^
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    still easier than master angler

    you know how many times I have sat down and been like:

    "this is it! I'm going to do it! I'm going to actually fish and go for it!"

    my last try I made it a whole 2 hours of fishing before I broke the rod in half and walked away from boredom. . .
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  • gp1680
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    Have you factored in the double AP events? It might bring that number down to 85 years or so.
    gp1680 wrote: »
    Have you factored in the double AP events? It might bring that number down to 85 years or so.

    85? Well in that case.... *runs out the door staff in hand*

    Now that's the spirit! Zerg Zerg Zerg!! haha!
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    If it takes 90 years then you're only making roughly 2,000 AP per day.
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    Wing wrote: »
    was even generous with my numbers and rounded my AP gain up in favor of an even number.

    based on my current pvp effort since launch (rounded up total AP gain, and rounded down game life to 3 years)

    and calculating total AP required (rounded DOWN to only 60,000,000 AP)

    it would take me 90 years to hit rank 50. . .

    I instantly gave up, pvp rank and ap gain is simply not designed for the casual pvp player. unless your good, in a guild or group designed for pvp, and can constantly dedicate the majority of your playtime to it, don't bother.

    or wait for the next bleakers ap flip exploit (shame on you! :p)

    EDIT:

    if you would like to see how long it would take you.

    calculate your current amount of total AP (based on your alliance rank) https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/96794/64-680-700-alliance-points-required-to-get-to-pvp-rank-50/p1

    divide the AP cap (around 64 million ap) by that number. giving you X

    then multiply that number (X) by the number of years you have been playing pvp.

    and tada, there is your rough estimate.

    Not suggesting it is doable, but the manner of your math is skewed in the wrong direction as Zos has increased AP gains for many activities during the past year making it faster to gain ranks now. Granted, I did not look at your link to see if that was taken into consideration.
    Edited by idk on July 18, 2017 12:29PM
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    reiverx wrote: »
    If it takes 90 years then you're only making roughly 2,000 AP per day.

    nah I just have stints of not doing pvp at all, and then binge it for a bit.

    have a lot of other things in game that distract me XD
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  • Chadak
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    Wing wrote: »
    still easier than master angler

    you know how many times I have sat down and been like:

    "this is it! I'm going to do it! I'm going to actually fish and go for it!"

    my last try I made it a whole 2 hours of fishing before I broke the rod in half and walked away from boredom. . .

    I hear this.

    I have no idea how people fish in this, or on any MMO I've ever played with fishing.

    Maybe its because I enjoy RL fishing. Or maybe its because I find MMO fishing to be so boring it literally puts me to sleep every time I try bothering with it just in case I'm somehow missing something cool.

    I'm not. I have no ability to understand the people that love MMO fishing though. How do you they stay awake for more than 20 minutes?!
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    Not suggesting it is doable, but the manner of your math is skewed in the wrong direction as Zos has increased AP gains for many activities during the past year making it faster to gain ranks now. Granted, I did not look at your link to see if that was taken into consideration.

    that's very true, however they also nerfed a lot of ap gains you used to be able to get back in the day to, for instance healing is not NEARLY as profitable as it used to be.

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  • Hallothiel
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    Chadak wrote: »
    Wing wrote: »
    still easier than master angler

    you know how many times I have sat down and been like:

    "this is it! I'm going to do it! I'm going to actually fish and go for it!"

    my last try I made it a whole 2 hours of fishing before I broke the rod in half and walked away from boredom. . .

    I hear this.

    I have no idea how people fish in this, or on any MMO I've ever played with fishing.

    Maybe its because I enjoy RL fishing. Or maybe its because I find MMO fishing to be so boring it literally puts me to sleep every time I try bothering with it just in case I'm somehow missing something cool.

    I'm not. I have no ability to understand the people that love MMO fishing though. How do you they stay awake for more than 20 minutes?!

    Sometimes it's fun just to toodle around an area, fishing a bit, collecting mats,
    & slaughtering indigenous wildlife instead of a mad dash to get things done. I put on some music & go wandering. makes it bearable

    (About half way done on my main. For those who have it on more than one character - how? Do you not have a job? Or do anything else except eso? - mot meant in a rude way, truly in awe)
  • TheUrbanWizard
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    Just don't keep checking your progress and when you get a skill point it's a nice little bonus
  • S1ipperyJim
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    Chadak wrote: »
    Wing wrote: »
    still easier than master angler

    you know how many times I have sat down and been like:

    "this is it! I'm going to do it! I'm going to actually fish and go for it!"

    my last try I made it a whole 2 hours of fishing before I broke the rod in half and walked away from boredom. . .

    I hear this.

    I have no idea how people fish in this, or on any MMO I've ever played with fishing.

    Maybe its because I enjoy RL fishing. Or maybe its because I find MMO fishing to be so boring it literally puts me to sleep every time I try bothering with it just in case I'm somehow missing something cool.

    I'm not. I have no ability to understand the people that love MMO fishing though. How do you they stay awake for more than 20 minutes?!

    basically you watch movies or youtube and just hit the button when your rod twitches
  • dan958
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    That's only 45 years with double AP events though... ;)

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  • emilyhyoyeon
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    well yeah I guess if someone doesn't focus on PVP then a PVP achievement will naturally take a very long time to get
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  • Bakkagami
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    Chadak wrote: »
    Wing wrote: »
    still easier than master angler

    you know how many times I have sat down and been like:

    "this is it! I'm going to do it! I'm going to actually fish and go for it!"

    my last try I made it a whole 2 hours of fishing before I broke the rod in half and walked away from boredom. . .

    I hear this.

    I have no idea how people fish in this, or on any MMO I've ever played with fishing.

    Maybe its because I enjoy RL fishing. Or maybe its because I find MMO fishing to be so boring it literally puts me to sleep every time I try bothering with it just in case I'm somehow missing something cool.

    I'm not. I have no ability to understand the people that love MMO fishing though. How do you they stay awake for more than 20 minutes?!

    basically you watch movies or youtube and just hit the button when your rod twitches

    Or make it really easy with an add-on that'll beep for u. Lol
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    Wing wrote: »
    still easier than master angler

    you know how many times I have sat down and been like:

    "this is it! I'm going to do it! I'm going to actually fish and go for it!"

    my last try I made it a whole 2 hours of fishing before I broke the rod in half and walked away from boredom. . .

    Took me 2 weeks of dedicated fishing to get Master Angler, darn Dab fish in Stormhaven took the longest.
    Now if I could fish for blue players that fast I would be Grand Overlord. lol
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