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Buffing a Crafted Set : Ashen Grip
Avran_Sylt
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Ashen Grip
The DoT is the suggested buff, the set as it is is only conal 1,544 Flame Damage.
This set will buff the set's effectiveness against a group of targets by reducing the number of targets needed to be hit to become effective.
This is just speculation, if y'all have you're own ideas, lay 'em out.
Edit: Check out this thread for a huge list of suggestions by @Masel92
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/337112/a-detailed-tweaking-of-set-and-trait-numbers-to-achieve-a-better-balance-in-eso
Edited by Avran_Sylt on July 31, 2017 4:57PM The DoT is the suggested buff, the set as it is is only conal 1,544 Flame Damage.
Current Set:
(5 items) When you deal direct melee damage, you have a 10% chance to breath fire to all enemies in front of you for 1544 Flame Damage.This effect can occur once every 4 seconds.
Suggested Change:
(5 items) When you deal direct melee damage, you have a 10% chance to breath fire to all enemies in front of you for 1544 Flame Damage, damaged enemies take an additional 3,057 Flame damage over 4 seconds This effect can occur once every 4 seconds.
(5 items) When you deal direct melee damage, you have a 10% chance to breath fire to all enemies in front of you for 1544 Flame Damage.This effect can occur once every 4 seconds.
Suggested Change:
(5 items) When you deal direct melee damage, you have a 10% chance to breath fire to all enemies in front of you for 1544 Flame Damage, damaged enemies take an additional 3,057 Flame damage over 4 seconds This effect can occur once every 4 seconds.
This set will buff the set's effectiveness against a group of targets by reducing the number of targets needed to be hit to become effective.
This is just speculation, if y'all have you're own ideas, lay 'em out.
Edit: Check out this thread for a huge list of suggestions by @Masel92
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/337112/a-detailed-tweaking-of-set-and-trait-numbers-to-achieve-a-better-balance-in-eso
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Ladislao✭✭✭✭✭
What about Death's Wind? It was nerfed in this patch. Was it OP?Strider_Roshin wrote: »Hunding's and Julianos are pretty solid, as is Eternal Hunt, and an extensive list of magicka sets.
Trial by Fire? Noble's Conquest? Spectre's Eye? Etc. Looks like they are ok but Ashen Grip. However, it is another damage proc set, which is already enough
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✭Strider_Roshin wrote: »
pleas provide this list, or link to it.... cause i can think of 2 maybe 3, thats far from extensive - barley a list!0 -
actosh✭✭✭✭✭They wont buff ashen cause its conal aoe+dot.
But its still to weak for a five piece.0 -
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The DoT is the suggested buff, the set as it is is only conal 1,544 Flame Damage.Current Set:
(5 items) When you deal direct melee damage, you have a 10% chance to breath fire to all enemies in front of you for 1544 Flame Damage.This effect can occur once every 4 seconds.
Suggested Change:
(5 items) When you deal direct melee damage, you have a 10% chance to breath fire to all enemies in front of you for 1544 Flame Damage, damaged enemies take an additional 3,057 Flame damage over 4 seconds This effect can occur once every 4 seconds.0 -
Spearblade✭✭✭✭puffytheslayer wrote: »Strider_Roshin wrote: »
pleas provide this list, or link to it.... cause i can think of 2 maybe 3, thats far from extensive - barley a list!
Seducer, Kagrenac, Arch Mage, Torug could make a comeback too with this additional buff to Infused. Uhhhhh...that might be it. I don't play magicka xD1 -
actosh✭✭✭✭✭Avran_Sylt wrote: »@actosh
The DoT is the suggested buff, the set as it is is only conal 1,544 Flame Damage.Current Set:
(5 items) When you deal direct melee damage, you have a 10% chance to breath fire to all enemies in front of you for 1544 Flame Damage.This effect can occur once every 4 seconds.
Suggested Change:
(5 items) When you deal direct melee damage, you have a 10% chance to breath fire to all enemies in front of you for 1544 Flame Damage, damaged enemies take an additional 3,057 Flame damage over 4 seconds This effect can occur once every 4 seconds.
My fault. Thx.0 -
bebynnag✭✭✭✭✭
✭Spearblade wrote: »puffytheslayer wrote: »Strider_Roshin wrote: »
pleas provide this list, or link to it.... cause i can think of 2 maybe 3, thats far from extensive - barley a list!
Seducer, Kagrenac, Arch Mage, Torug could make a comeback too with this additional buff to Infused. Uhhhhh...that might be it. I don't play magicka xD
arch mage is a drop set, so as i said 2 maybe 3 hardly an extensive list!0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭The best way to Buff crafted set's is to add jewellery crafting.
This. For example hundings and shacklebreaker as a set could be very very solid in pvp for melee builds. Crafted jewelry which I do believe is coming at some point would open up build diversity like never before and breath new life into a lot of unused sets.0 -
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✭✭✭puffytheslayer wrote: »Spearblade wrote: »puffytheslayer wrote: »Strider_Roshin wrote: »
pleas provide this list, or link to it.... cause i can think of 2 maybe 3, thats far from extensive - barley a list!
Seducer, Kagrenac, Arch Mage, Torug could make a comeback too with this additional buff to Infused. Uhhhhh...that might be it. I don't play magicka xD
arch mage is a drop set, so as i said 2 maybe 3 hardly an extensive list!
Magnus gift as well. So a total of 5 good crafted sets.0 -
AlcastClass RepresentativeThere is a lot of sets taht needs buffs, I think there was a thread not long ago which kind of explained all sets taht need a buff pretty well.https://alcasthq.com - Alcasthq.com Builds & Guides
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Qbiken✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭There is a lot of sets taht needs buffs, I think there was a thread not long ago which kind of explained all sets taht need a buff pretty well.
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/337112/a-detailed-tweaking-of-set-and-trait-numbers-to-achieve-a-better-balance-in-eso/p1
This perhaps?
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Ah, thanks for pointing me in that direction, this is focused more on hitting one set at a time (but I'll also include that thread link in the main post).Ashen Grip:
Seriously underwhelming, needs significantly more damage to become useful. Could be especially good as an easily obtainable alternative for dropped sets for beginners.
2 Items Increases your Maximum Health by 1064
3 Items Increases your Weapon Damage by 129
4 Items Increases Weapon Critical by 688
5 Items When you deal direct melee damage, you have a 20% chance to breath fire to all enemies in front you for 12000 Flame Damage. This effect can only occur every 4 seconds.
The only issue I have with this is it aims to make an AoE (against single target) proc on par with a single target proc while at the same increasing the proc chance. This could be particularly unbalanced.Edited by Avran_Sylt on July 16, 2017 5:12PM0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭The best way to Buff crafted set's is to add jewellery crafting.
This. For example hundings and shacklebreaker as a set could be very very solid in pvp for melee builds. Crafted jewelry which I do believe is coming at some point would open up build diversity like never before and breath new life into a lot of unused sets.
I want pelinal aptitude and shacklebreaker for my hybrid build. But ZoS says no.1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Avran_Sylt wrote: »@actosh
The DoT is the suggested buff, the set as it is is only conal 1,544 Flame Damage.Current Set:
(5 items) When you deal direct melee damage, you have a 10% chance to breath fire to all enemies in front of you for 1544 Flame Damage.This effect can occur once every 4 seconds.
Suggested Change:
(5 items) When you deal direct melee damage, you have a 10% chance to breath fire to all enemies in front of you for 1544 Flame Damage, damaged enemies take an additional 3,057 Flame damage over 4 seconds This effect can occur once every 4 seconds.
But if they buff it more than this there will be no reason to use Ice Furnace!0 -
RichydaSoul ShrivenAvran_Sylt wrote: »@actosh
The DoT is the suggested buff, the set as it is is only conal 1,544 Flame Damage.Current Set:
(5 items) When you deal direct melee damage, you have a 10% chance to breath fire to all enemies in front of you for 1544 Flame Damage.This effect can occur once every 4 seconds.
Suggested Change:
(5 items) When you deal direct melee damage, you have a 10% chance to breath fire to all enemies in front of you for 1544 Flame Damage, damaged enemies take an additional 3,057 Flame damage over 4 seconds This effect can occur once every 4 seconds.
Making it so the set actually deals damage overtime would really increase it's usefullness, and to say, the damage over time doesn't seem like it would break it's balance.
Another thing suggested on other places is that they could remove the 4 seconds cooldown from the set.
Even another change to the set is to leave everything as default, yet increase it's chances to happen from a 10% to a 25%.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Strider_Roshin wrote: »puffytheslayer wrote: »Spearblade wrote: »puffytheslayer wrote: »Strider_Roshin wrote: »
pleas provide this list, or link to it.... cause i can think of 2 maybe 3, thats far from extensive - barley a list!
Seducer, Kagrenac, Arch Mage, Torug could make a comeback too with this additional buff to Infused. Uhhhhh...that might be it. I don't play magicka xD
arch mage is a drop set, so as i said 2 maybe 3 hardly an extensive list!
Magnus gift as well. So a total of 5 good crafted sets.
seducer, magnus, twice born star, julianos, hunding, alchemist, tavas, eternal hunt, kagrenac, torug´s pact, nightmothers gaze and willow´s path (this provides 3.5 setbonuses worth of regen with just baserec + set + drink not counting health rec) are the crafted sets i´d consider useable. Not too bad imo.Edited by Derra on August 1, 2017 7:11AM<Noricum>
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✭Ashen Grip seems like the most useless sets from low lvl crafted. I never used it on any from my 10 characters. Designed for stamina build but deals flame damage? 1544 single damage? If it was eg 5k damage or 1544 per second for 3-4 seconds, then maybe. Or if it was giving side effects, buff/debuff.
Now Ashen Grip gives no damage. Needs to be reworked ASAP. Any info from ZOS about why keeping this set alive?PC EU (PL): 14 characters. ESO player since 06.08.2015. Farkas finest quote: "Some people don't think I'm smart. Those people get my fist. But you, I like."1
