Congrats to EP for Winning Vivec

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    Satiar wrote: »
    AD is rough. Like, it still has a bunch of its long time good players but none of them seem interested in making a group/guild that can compete. Elite Small Man groups have thier limits :/. AD has the players and leads to have competitive groups, they just.... don't.

    If we did, this would not be a discussion because they'd be leading and playing. Has AD, over its 3+ year history, had such players? Of course. Do some still play [for AD]? Yes, but that doesn't mean they're still available at the same capacity as before.

    Those who defend the ability to play for multiple factions on the same campaign always say that it's a necessary feature to ensure balance. While there are a few high profile examples of guilds switching, we generally see the opposite in practice. In among the EP horde, I see a lot of players who were AD and/or DC recently. Some shamelessly switch within the same play session.

    In any case, this is a good opportunity for multifaction players to show that they're really about balance and not bandwagoners.

    Magıc wrote: »
    1-2k difference is a lot better than a 10k or so difference that AD get in Vivec and EP get in Sotha Sil.

    I don't think the campaign score is necessarily reflective of overall competition. I do not know the EU scene well, but I recall reading, I think, that PC/EU/AD is winning Vivec because of low-pop capping, but is not dominant prime time. PC/NA/AD has only very rarely been competitive at a combat level during 3.0 during any interval. We're a faction of mostly scouts crouched away from the fight in PVE builds.

    Personally, I play the map but I only really care about good fights in the context of map play. I define a good fight as one that is close and hard fought by all sides. It's fun to win the campaign, but it's more fun to lose a campaign with competitive balance than it is to win one that is lopsided, so the score isn't the true issue here.

    This has nothing to do with faction identity. I do not know the actual distribution, but obviously a high percentage of AvA enthusiasts are multi-faction. AD has grown as many great groups and players as any other faction.
  • Publius_Scipio
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    CyrusArya wrote: »

    Do you know who made "no CP" fashionable before Morrowind? Before Battlegrounds. Before a meteor threatened to crash into the legendary island of Vvardenfell which would cause the nix ox to go extinct. Before when the only warden in the game was a keep.... Fengrush.

    Maybe for impressionable fanboys and twitch subscribers. Azura's was definitely poppin off before any streamer or their army of goofy weebos.

    Hahaha except I don't have a twitch account, never have. You, as a DC and some "great" player who spends time on their theorycrafting and builds should in your world bow and open doors for Fengrush to walk through, because he was playing stam sorc and made it work for him when maybe 3% of all players in ESO bothered even considering that playstyle.

    Shame on you for your disrespectful tone towards Fengrush. And you are rude to me and I don't appreciate that quite frankly. I'm my own #1 fanboy of my own forums adventures, ok.
  • Kay1
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    Do people actually care about this or this a thread to mock the others alliances?
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  • Borelock762
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    Now try to win no CP campaign. A campaign where a returning COVENANT general from a bygone era returned from a mysterious odyssey. Wizard Daniel of Chuck Norris (minus Mountain Hound, tea and crumpets got to him eventually) has returned as Odysseus returned to Ithaca, and has staked his claim as emperor of Cyrodiil.

    And I, Homer Scipio sit at my desk, ivory stylus and wax tablet in hand, ready to tell the tale of the great battle for control of Tamriel without the use of performance enhancing drugs. Aka champion points.
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    CN doesn´t play in a competitive campaign thus letting them pvdoor the map. At least, the win in Vivec means something more than knocking down empty keeps.But whatever EP did what DC didn´t and they deserved the win.

    not a competitive campaign? lol we just play grab ass all day with all the losers that don't like to compete lol Play in non cp and find out how good you are. The CP system is broken and source of exploits. That stuff doesn't fly in sotha. Get good...or die
  • vamp_emily
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    Want to know why DC lost?

    Defense, Defense, Defense, they have the worst defense ever. You know what their excuse is? "oo we don't have enough players?" Seriously? Every day they say the same thing.... "oh we don't have enough players.. blah blah blah".

    Just maybe one day they will learn or care to show up when someone says "UA". Maybe go and take notes from Vivec EU DC that knows how to take keeps and defend them too.


    Vivic EU Server DC
    me: nikel is UA
    zone: we are on our way

    Vivic NA Server DC
    me: nikel is UA
    zone: stfu


    Edited by vamp_emily on July 14, 2017 3:18PM

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    [snip] necro
    Edited by ZOS_KatP on January 31, 2018 3:57PM
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    vamp_emily wrote: »
    Want to know why DC lost?

    Defense, Defense, Defense, they have the worst defense ever. You know what their excuse is? "oo we don't have enough players?" Seriously? Every day they say the same thing.... "oh we don't have enough players.. blah blah blah".

    Just maybe one day they will learn or care to show up when someone says "AU". Maybe go and take notes from Vivec EU DC that knows how to take keeps and defend them too.


    Vivic EU Server DC
    me: nikel is AU
    zone: we are on our way

    Vivic NA Server DC
    me: nikel is AU
    zone: stfu


    Not trying to be an a*hole but obviously you should call "UA". -Lurks in Forums-
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  • vamp_emily
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    vamp_emily wrote: »

    Not trying to be an a*hole but obviously you should call "UA". -Lurks in Forums-

    fixed it for you.

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  • DHale
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    I stopped reading after EP outnumbered..... without Dracarys and invictus and the army of red.... I played last Friday AD three bars EP pop 86 que outnumbered.... lol ok not lol. D.C. Lost due to VE not playing every night.
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    DHale wrote: »
    I stopped reading after EP outnumbered..... without Dracarys and invictus and the army of red.... I played last Friday AD three bars EP pop 86 que outnumbered.... lol ok not lol. D.C. Lost due to VE not playing every night.

    wth, so its one guilds job to carry an enitre faction? lolol
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    DHale wrote: »
    I stopped reading after EP outnumbered..... without Dracarys and invictus and the army of red.... I played last Friday AD three bars EP pop 86 que outnumbered.... lol ok not lol. D.C. Lost due to VE not playing every night.

    wth, so its one guilds job to carry an enitre faction? lolol

    Kinda... when VE runs, DC will typically have Chalman and sometimes Roeback. When VE isn't running, DC will typically be pushed back to Glade and have no emperor keeps. Then if VE is spotted messing with sejanus or the bridge farm, all the EP immediately disappear and flock to Ales/Chalman so they can take it back without having VE there to defend it.

    It's no secret that EP has the worst queue length out of the three factions. EP outnumbered isn't a real thing in Vivec. This post is more of a tongue in cheek tradition that mocks the original post that has since been modified a half a dozen times or so.

    There's only 2-3 actual EP guilds that I've seen that will go push an objective by themselves. Invictus and Dracarys will go off by themselves when they are rocking 14 or more in their group but it's typically to AP farm away from their faction. However, if they are in the 6-10 range they will happily zerg surf like most groups that size do. Phoenix Rising will go try to pvdoor backline keeps but it's not to farm, they just want the PVDoor AP I think and then they lose it right back. And then PM has an obsession with Dragon Claw. However, I rarely see much of PM these days. Maybe only encounter them a couple times a night. Last, it seems like the other EP on the server just move around as a wild zerg moving as one.

    That's my EP analysis.

    For funsies, I'll give the other alliance analyses as well.

    DC is the scariest zerg but luckily for EP/AD, it's generally only once or twice a night when you see it (usually to take back Aleswell or take Chalman when they are done giving free d-ticks to EP at Chalman - no seriously just AFK at chalman and you will get GO on EP :P ). An even number DC faction stack vs EP or AD faction stack will typically win and take whatever objective it is. For the most part though, DC doesn't move as one wild zerg around the map together, they will typically be split and doing odd things like taking kingscrest for no reason. The Nikel/Ash gate corridor is the DC poor man's alessia bridge. DC only has like one scout. It's very easy to PVDoor a DC keep. There's no scout and nobody can get there in time to defend it so it's always a re-take.

    AD is an interesting one. They have a lot of bodies but you're typically wondering where they are. They do have a lot of guilds but they aren't very prominent or well known. AD also has the most weekend warriors. The AD queue rivals the EP queue but only on weekends. During the week, it's more of a question of where are the AD and the queues aren't that bad.


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  • SwampRaider
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    If we had no lives and we PVP'd every night, the campaign would be a different story.

    But alas. We get angry tells from other DC when we tell them how to win.

    No one on DC wants to adopt the destro ult/bombs that VE runs. they'd rather play how they want. That is their choice. But yet they complain in zone when they lose keeps. VE can't afford to have scouts at every keep since we have important *** to do, yet no other DC guild likes scouting, cept for the occasional scout at DC,bleakers and Nikel.

    Seriously though, How many home keeps does DC have to get ninjad out from under them until they start leaving scouts at keeps :open_mouth:

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  • DisgracefulMind
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    DHale wrote: »
    I stopped reading after EP outnumbered..... without Dracarys and invictus and the army of red.... I played last Friday AD three bars EP pop 86 que outnumbered.... lol ok not lol. D.C. Lost due to VE not playing every night.

    This thread is just a troll O: You don't remember the first of its kind? And the many times it has been altered?

    No one is saying EP is outnumbered xD

    EDIT: Why was this necro'd? :o
    Edited by DisgracefulMind on July 14, 2017 6:18PM
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  • Ghost-Shot
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    DHale wrote: »
    I stopped reading after EP outnumbered..... without Dracarys and invictus and the army of red.... I played last Friday AD three bars EP pop 86 que outnumbered.... lol ok not lol. D.C. Lost due to VE not playing every night.

    This thread is just a troll O: You don't remember the first of its kind? And the many times it has been altered?

    No one is saying EP is outnumbered xD

    EDIT: Why was this necro'd? :o

    That's the best part of this thread, no matter how many times we post it someone always takes the bait!
  • DisgracefulMind
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    Ghost-Shot wrote: »
    DHale wrote: »
    I stopped reading after EP outnumbered..... without Dracarys and invictus and the army of red.... I played last Friday AD three bars EP pop 86 que outnumbered.... lol ok not lol. D.C. Lost due to VE not playing every night.

    This thread is just a troll O: You don't remember the first of its kind? And the many times it has been altered?

    No one is saying EP is outnumbered xD

    EDIT: Why was this necro'd? :o

    That's the best part of this thread, no matter how many times we post it someone always takes the bait!

    It never fails ahahaha
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  • Elong
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    Amazing, DHale still getting suckered in hahahaha.
  • Durham
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    If we had no lives and we PVP'd every night, the campaign would be a different story.

    But alas. We get angry tells from other DC when we tell them how to win.

    No one on DC wants to adopt the destro ult/bombs that VE runs. they'd rather play how they want. That is their choice. But yet they complain in zone when they lose keeps. VE can't afford to have scouts at every keep since we have important *** to do, yet no other DC guild likes scouting, cept for the occasional scout at DC,bleakers and Nikel.

    Seriously though, How many home keeps does DC have to get ninjad out from under them until they start leaving scouts at keeps :open_mouth:

    I bleed Blue and always have, sometimes I wish our faction would learn and grow too.

    This why I hate large scale PVP it's all about negate, and destro-ult... 1 style dominates all...
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    I thought DC won.
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    That clip was awesome, thank you mate :#:#
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  • VaranisArano
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    I thought DC won.

    Which Campaign? Which month?

    You necroed this from July 2017.
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