Almalexia's Lantern (PTS Notes)

Spacemonkey · July 2017

Just pointing out the following,

Mementos

Fixed an issue where the visual effects for several mementos would appear around your target instead of correctly appearing around you.
This affected the Twilight Shard, Box of Forbidden Relics, and Almalexia’s Enchanted Lantern.

Anyone else dissapointed they are removing effects that allowed you to interact with players from trophies?
Almalexia's Lantern is by far my favourite in the game because it lets you 'cast' the tiny light orb around whatever you point it at. (mobs, npcs, players), Go quick slot it and try it out before the patch goes live in a few weeks.

I don't quite understand it though, this seemed like everything BUT a bug. I would have thought they would have tried to make more trophies like it (jester event mudball/petals), not remove them..... I really dont understand this one.....

Granted this is not a big deal when compared to balance etc..., new content and so on. But then why even bother with something that was working fine anyway? O_o

Universe · July 2017

'Fix' the Lantern, you should only be able to cast it on yourself

I always hated it when it was casted on a spider.
It was tedious to point the mouse somewhere else so it won't target a creature/player/npc etc.
I asked for it to be fixed months ago and it got fixed.
I'm glad they fixed it!

Alpheu5 · July 2017

Keep it as is, it's a fun feature

I've actually used it while teaching newbies dungeons to point out specific enemies. There's not really an alternative, unless mudballs don't draw agro, but it doesn't work nearly as well as a beacon.

SpiderKnight · July 2017

Keep it as is, it's a fun feature

Dumb, so fix tiny, fun things that cause no issues whatsoever but leave crap in the game for over a year like the slow falling "feature" that traps me against a rock while I'm being attacked and unable to break the animation...
Now I can't cast my dwemer balls into people's hand without them knowing.

manavortex · July 2017

Keep it as is, it's a fun feature

I like the lantern

You can still easily cast it on yourself

Spacemonkey · July 2017

Keep it as is, it's a fun feature

Lord wrote: »

I always hated it when it was casted on a spider.
It was tedious to point the mouse somewhere else so it won't target a creature/player/npc etc.
I asked for it to be fixed months ago and it got fixed.
I'm glad they fixed it!

Haha, I'm really bummed out by this, I've never had issues with targeting, and the rare occasions where I did actually cast it on something else (and not on purpose), were of very little consequence.

Guess if its a bug, its a bug, but I've had so much fun with that little ball of lighting up stuff at random.... I'm going to seriously miss it if it gets 'fixed'.

Recremen · July 2017

Keep it as is, it's a fun feature

Alpheu5 wrote: »

I've actually used it while teaching newbies dungeons to point out specific enemies. There's not really an alternative, unless mudballs don't draw agro, but it doesn't work nearly as well as a beacon.

There's still the Token of Root Sunder, unless that doesn't work on monsters/they also nerf it.

Spacemonkey · July 2017

Keep it as is, it's a fun feature

@ZOS_GinaBruno , is there any hope ? Can we have any details on what exactly that fix entails? (Is it revertable before release?

)

It might not be the most popular poll, but from what I can see, it is (in this tiny sample) an overwhelming minority that see this as a bug and want it fixed...

Urkraft · July 2017

Keep it as is, it's a fun feature

omg it wasnt intended

FloppyTouch · July 2017

I did not know you could 'cast' the Lantern on w/e you targeted

*mind blown*

Moloch1514 · July 2017

Keep it as is, it's a fun feature

Was actually very disappointed by this "nerf". I love casting on critters, enemies, town guards, and especially mud ballers lol!

Spacemonkey · July 2017

Keep it as is, it's a fun feature

Urkraft wrote: »

omg it wasnt intended

I know... I've always thought it was, and how awesome they did that, and why they hadn't made more.

I know they've changed some before . (Root Sunder used to have a crazy animation with a large graphical AoE, and last times I've tried it, it barely gave me a green glow - maybe it was lag, or maybe THAT is a bug)

Tasear · July 2017

Keep it as is, it's a fun feature

Indeed we are suppose to interact with each other... muballs included.

Enodoc · July 2017

'Fix' the Lantern, you should only be able to cast it on yourself

It always used to cast on yourself, I have no idea when that changed.

starkerealm · July 2017

Enodoc wrote: »

It always used to cast on yourself, I have no idea when that changed.

When you interact with it from the menu, it self casts. When you quickslot it, you can apply it to your target. This is true of the Lantern, Smoke Bomb, Twilight Shard, and a few others. Didn't know about the box of forbidden relics. Then again, I never ground the Dark Brotherhood dailies enough to unlock that.

wolfxspice · July 2017

Keep it as is, it's a fun feature

i just look at the ground if i want to cast it on myself, i think its cool being to through it at people, but i do think they should allow a toggle, for yourself.

esotoon · July 2017

Keep it as is, it's a fun feature

As well as being a useful tool to highlight things, I play ESO with my gf, and this (and other mementos) are one of the few methods we actually have of interacting with each other's characters within the game world. Please don't take them away!

mwo1480 · July 2017

Keep it as is, it's a fun feature

why did they even fix it, i love to use stuff like those on others, it confuses newby's sometimes,
why dont they fixthe broken balance that only is good for pvp,

SilverWF · July 2017

I'm grumpy and don't care

Sometimes I were disappointed, when this lantern has casted around my target - not only around players, but also around monsters and even their dead bodies or interactible objects.
But generally I do not care - this patch bringing much worse stuff...

idk · July 2017

'Fix' the Lantern, you should only be able to cast it on yourself

The one from DB that placed candles and a heart on the ground around the caster and the caster knelt and stabbed the heart is a clear indication that Zos did not intentionally change it so the effect appeared on a target vs the player. The caster still knelt down and did the animation but the objects appeared around the target making it look silly.

Glad they are changing it back.

Tactical32 · July 2017

Random question, off topic, I apologize.

Does anyone know which memento has the player holding a "glowing ball or spark" for lack of a better description in one hand and summoning with the other?

Did I miss out on this one?

Spacemonkey · July 2017

Keep it as is, it's a fun feature

Enodoc wrote: »

It always used to cast on yourself, I have no idea when that changed.

Not sure, it might have always been when quick slotted like @starkerealm says.
I know for sure that ever since I unlocked it while doing Caldwell silver well over a year ago, I could cast it on people.

StormWylf · July 2017

Keep it as is, it's a fun feature

Tell you what, fix it if you must, but create a new memento that allows us to cast a light orb around whatever we point at.

Maryal · July 2017

Keep it as is, it's a fun feature

I mentioned this in another thread, but I will say it again here. I love the memento the way it currently is on Live. Please don't change it. I can cast the light on myself, or if I want I can cast it on a stationary object, or if I get pelted with a mudball, I return the favor by casting Almalexia's Lantern (light) on them (LOL).

It actually has a lot of utility in its current (Live) form. It's a little quality of life item, a little luxury, it's just so darn handy and useful the way it is ... please don't nerf it ZOS!

For anyone who doesn't know, casting it (activating the memento) causes a small, glowing/transparent orb to float around wherever you choose (i.e., yourself, another player, an NPC, ... even a rock, etc.,) and it lasts about 20-30 seconds or so. The nerf would take away our ability to choose/target where the orb goes (meaning when the memento is activated, the orb would only float around the caster).

MaKTaiL · July 2017

'Fix' the Lantern, you should only be able to cast it on yourself

I'm glad they are finally fixing it. I want to use the lantern for a reason, not cast it on a random crab on the ground.

Alpheu5 · July 2017

Keep it as is, it's a fun feature

Recremen wrote: »

Alpheu5 wrote: »

I've actually used it while teaching newbies dungeons to point out specific enemies. There's not really an alternative, unless mudballs don't draw agro, but it doesn't work nearly as well as a beacon.

There's still the Token of Root Sunder, unless that doesn't work on monsters/they also nerf it.

Still not really an equivalent. A glowing ball of light is about as "LOOK OVER HERE" as you can get, right behind using Finvir's blue beacon of attention and walking straight to the mob itself.

Spacemonkey · July 2017

Keep it as is, it's a fun feature

MaKTaiL wrote: »

I'm glad they are finally fixing it. I want to use the lantern for a reason, not cast it on a random crab on the ground.

You know its the crab you are targeting and not a random one right?

Wreuntzylla · July 2017

More people than you would imagine get very angry when another player can do something to their toons.

There was even a movement to make rapids affecting you a toggle. Although, that may be a bad example, some of those folks said they were old or sick, and when someone casted rapids they would crash into everything or constantly overshoot their mark.

I was really surprised when ZoS let the mudball thing last beyond the event. Not many people use it on random strangers, though.

idk · July 2017

'Fix' the Lantern, you should only be able to cast it on yourself

Tactical32 wrote: »

Random question, off topic, I apologize.

Does anyone know which memento has the player holding a "glowing ball or spark" for lack of a better description in one hand and summoning with the other?

Did I miss out on this one?

That may be the juggle fire emote with the personality we earn from completing something in Vvardenfell.

Shawn_PT · July 2017

Keep it as is, it's a fun feature

It's interesting to see that all the small quirky and fun things on this game get 'fixed' while the things that actually need getting fixed remain broken forever. Where's my random dungeon reward from yesterday? That's right GF borked up and I got nothing.

Yes I admit casting the light on a rat is a bit annoying but just wait a few seconds, dwell on how silly you were for forgetting that detail for the umpteenth time, and recast it properly again.

And about the Twilight Shard, it's the second time it gets fixed. For me what made it awesome was the levitating effect. The light was just a nice extra. But because someone used that to exploit something, ZOS took the axe to yet another nice thing in the game instead of actually fixing the exploit itself. It doesn't look ominous or impressive anymore. It just says 'look at me I'm holding some Daedric prince's glowing danglies. Yay.' I don't bother using it anymore. It just looks stupid.

I've grown to not take anything fun and/or silly in this game for granted. If it amuses us, looks awesome, or is just a pleasant surprise you can be 100% sure someone is going to use it to exploit some semi broken aspect of the game, therefore getting that fun detail removed instead of the exploit fixed. Either that or ZOS will just decide players aren't allowed to have a bit of extra enjoyment outside farming or grinding, and remove the quirk for no reason anyway.

MaKTaiL · July 2017

'Fix' the Lantern, you should only be able to cast it on yourself

Spacemonkey wrote: »

MaKTaiL wrote: »

I'm glad they are finally fixing it. I want to use the lantern for a reason, not cast it on a random crab on the ground.

You know its the crab you are targeting and not a random one right?

You took what I said too literally....

Random crab = any npc that I didn't notice when I casted the light.

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