spamming Breath of Life

Well, to be fair, healers typically do a lot more than use BoL. But you're right, many DPS seem to think a healer's job is to enable them to ignore mechanics. That's just silly.

Make them stack and spam Healing Springs instead. Far cheaper. As for pulling mobs that's how I usually do that. Stack all from a room and drop ult on them for more effective DPS. Trash melts to elemental rage or standard of might. And they are daedra meaning the ults are loaded again for the next encounter. My normal run time there is 10-12 min without skipping.

casparian wrote: »

spamming Breath of Life

Well, to be fair, healers typically do a lot more than use BoL. But you're right, many DPS seem to think a healer's job is to enable them to ignore mechanics. That's just silly.

Eh my mag recovery is 3.5k and sadly, even for a CP player I neglected Resto during lower levels so BoL was the way to go whilst I levelled resto

As a healer in a different MMO, I totally understand. DPS comes in enrages everything before the tank establishes aggro and sets stage, then wonders why he didn't get any heal loves.

Libonotus wrote: »

casparian wrote: »

spamming Breath of Life

Well, to be fair, healers typically do a lot more than use BoL. But you're right, many DPS seem to think a healer's job is to enable them to ignore mechanics. That's just silly.

Eh my mag recovery is 3.5k and sadly, even for a CP player I neglected Resto during lower levels so BoL was the way to go whilst I levelled resto

Hmm. Honestly, I might have made the same decision as your teammates, then. There's really no way to be a dungeon healer without resto staff. BoL is only for emergencies.

Here's my basic "blame game" mechanics I use in Dungeon/Raid scenarios...

If the Tank dies, it's the Healer's fault.
If the Healer dies, it's the Tank's fault.
If the DPS dies, it's their own damn fault for standing in fire.

casparian wrote: »

Libonotus wrote: »

casparian wrote: »

spamming Breath of Life

Well, to be fair, healers typically do a lot more than use BoL. But you're right, many DPS seem to think a healer's job is to enable them to ignore mechanics. That's just silly.

Eh my mag recovery is 3.5k and sadly, even for a CP player I neglected Resto during lower levels so BoL was the way to go whilst I levelled resto

Hmm. Honestly, I might have made the same decision as your teammates, then. There's really no way to be a dungeon healer without resto staff. BoL is only for emergencies.

Even someone running a resto staff wouldn't have been able to keep them alive as they were staying stood in AoE's

PlagueSD wrote: »

Here's my basic "blame game" mechanics I use in Dungeon/Raid scenarios...

If the Tank dies, it's the Healer's fault.
If the Healer dies, it's the Tank's fault.
If the DPS dies, it's their own damn fault for standing in fire.

I can mostly agree with this but for a few specific situations where is entirely dps fault because a lot of dungeons have "dps test" mechanics where if you don't burn fast enough bad things happen.

casparian wrote: »

Libonotus wrote: »

casparian wrote: »

spamming Breath of Life

Well, to be fair, healers typically do a lot more than use BoL. But you're right, many DPS seem to think a healer's job is to enable them to ignore mechanics. That's just silly.

Eh my mag recovery is 3.5k and sadly, even for a CP player I neglected Resto during lower levels so BoL was the way to go whilst I levelled resto

Hmm. Honestly, I might have made the same decision as your teammates, then. There's really no way to be a dungeon healer without resto staff. BoL is only for emergencies.

Agreed. I now main a DPS magsorc and haven't touched my Templar healer in months (got tired of being blamed for a death here or there by scrub glass cannon DDs who blatantly ignore mechanics and Leeroy Jenkins into everything), but speaking as a former healer here, you GOTTA use a fully-levelled resto staff as a healer. Not just for the HoTs, but also for the group utility of skills like Combat Prayer.

Sorry OP -- even though it's annoying when DDs don't listen or do something idiotic like use Inner Fire or whatever and consistently pull aggro off the tank, you really can't expect to spam BoL and call yourself a healer. Keep levelling your resto staff and learn how to keep your HoTs up at all times.

DivinityDay wrote: »

Squishy dps are no fun!

I'm a dps though, but I'm usually the last one alive rezing others. I'm also the one that pulls as many adds as I can as far as I can and kill them all.

I also pick up the slack in case the heals are weak but mostly due to squishy dpses.

But yes, even as a dps I feel your pain lol.

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DivinityDay wrote: »

I also pick up the slack in case the heals are weak but mostly due to squishy dpses.[/b]

Neither man nor mer will ever kill me!


Apparently the "quote" function while being on mobile, beats me tho

my templar runs double s+b and i cba to change it, but i will press BoL for you haha, most of the dungeons are soo *** easy that i dont (shouldn't) need full tard healer mode, but stupid players are going to play stupid... heal through stupid and become a hall of famer haha

You know, a Tank and a Healer, are like a Father and Mother, their kids always blame them for the stupidy they do, always the parents fault. :P So always the healer or tank's fault... also the healer's fault when the 2 dps are having really low dps, the healer get blamed for not dpsing

You never realise how a pain is being a healer until you play one, you then, realise, moving all over the place, jumping like a frog with a TNT up their asses trying to avoid it to explode, as done in pvp, is a pain for a healer, you don't realise it's anoying for a healer, when you'Re a DPS and you stay 28 meters opposite of the other DPS to make the healer's job more complicated, or when you'Re a DPS and you stand on same side as the Tank in front of badass mobs/bosses, instead of staying close to the healer and the other dps, and you never realise how a pain it is as a healer to save a squeeshy DPS that thinks, red circles means AOE Buffs, and stay still in them, or when a DPS Vampire wanna see how long it takes to get a ***'s sun burn by staying still in fire AOEs

CorsennaRyu wrote: »

I can't heal through one shots.

These were my exact words to a group who had no business being in vWGT last night (they even insisted on HM). Two of them died to the one shot atronach. The other died in the first line of lightning. Of course, it was my fault that I couldn't heal the one shots. This went on for some time, each attempt on HM because the cp level 150ish guy couldn't keep his hands off of the scroll before the fights.

The group I ran with before them were so rude that I left them after the first boss.

Finally cleared it with a third group that had terrible dps and a good tank. The fights took forever but they were polite and they took direction well, so I stuck with them.

I've been farming SPC and doing multiple runs on normal, vet and occasionally finishing on HM. I see the full spectrum of people in dungeons. I can tolerate a subpar group so long as they're friendly and don't keep making the same mistakes without learning.

DivinityDay wrote: »

Squishy dps are no fun!

I'm a dps though, but I'm usually the last one alive rezing others. I'm also the one that pulls as many adds as I can as far as I can and kill them all.

I also pick up the slack in case the heals are weak but mostly due to squishy dpses.

But yes, even as a dps I feel your pain lol.

You can't heal stupid.

Also, if you as a healer have to work that hard then....

#1 the dps is too low and the fight is too long.

#2 dps are squishy

#3 you may need to consider yourself as well though. Check your champ point allocation and so forth. Use Healing Springs in combination with BoL to increase your healing output and magicka regen as well.

When I heal vet content if anybody but the tank pulls to start a fight they don't get heals. I know many healers that have this rule. If the fight requires ads to be dragged in during the course of the fight then fine if the DPS knows how to get them into the center for AOE that is okay. For the most part though the tank should do the pulling and crowd control. That is why you brought them.

I really dislike a player that queues for a normal dungeon pulls everything in the room before the group can get there because he can handle it. The other three are not there to be your cheerleaders. New players need to learn mechanics and they don't do that watching you burn everything. If you are doing the DPS and pulling and healing you should be doing that content solo or move on to something else. At the very least use zone chat (or guild) to start the group telling them it is a speed run.

For the OP you shouldn't spam breath of life. Breath of Life is basically the I screwed up and need to fix this quick skill that you use once (maybe twice if it misses) and then get back into your rotation. When I heal with players that are unsure what to do I tell them if they stand between me and the boss I will almost always keep them alive. After they see the fight I can then explain the mechanics better. Sometimes it is hard to explain what to do for people on their first run.