guys, i dont believe you, saying you wait at screen loader more than 15-20 min? you would be booted if idled in 5-8 mins

Yarlenzey wrote: »

I have the best ISP service that money can buy here in Australia. That is, Platinum NBN FTTH.
Don't know the figures, but I It's better than most Australians have access to.

Yes! I have a potato! Celeron 2.1 laptop with something burning under my left hand labelled 'onboard gpu'.

A number of things happened just prior to this:

• I ran CCleaner and removed any stray temporary files that may have been an issue.
• I ran whatever the game 'Verify/rebuild' thing is called.
• I disable Master Merchant addon.

When restarting, I was required to accept the TOS again; and also provide a TOS response about addons.
I don't know at this point if there has been a change; but I'm assuming that there was.
Since then, I can login quickly and game play had been the best its been for several weeks now

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

Essentially, what you described is mostly due to local issues.

Thanks, Giles. Helpful as ever.

@ZOS - I was going to include the concept of 'transparency' in my original post, but removed it.
The point of that is now we can't tell if the issue was resolved based on my efforts; or something that you guys have done.
If you have done something, then thanks! the last two hours have been exactly what I expect with smooth, responsive gameplay, for the most part. FPS in 15-20 range; Latency in 400-450, with no evidence of the 999+ spikes.

clearly you don't have the best service then. 50mbps FTTN (half what you have) here and I still ping 280-290 on average which is about what my previous ADSL2+ service did.. and this is in Perth.

i've said this in dozens of similar posts before when Aussie's cry about this - you will never ping under 250 because the latency between submarine hops to the US is circa 200ms on average, plus your capacity backhaul at each end of that will add another 50ms easily. 400-450ms? I'm afraid to say - that's your link.

Therefore I put this helpful guide together for yourself (and other) Aussies to understand their Internet with regards to ESO.

But I have 100mbps FTTH!
So? You have a fiber optic termination to a NTD on the wall outside that is rated at UP to 100mbps between the premises and the NBNCo Edge Switch. That is it. 100mbps from your house to edge switch ≠ 100mbps to the Internet. Remember there are other people patched into those edge switches and they will be load balanced even if they are on separate VLAN's because the trunk from that edge switch will be limited as well. Large Aggregation Switches serving your area might be in stack config to save backhaul fiber costs which means 2 switches at full load assuming they're 48 port will max out the trunks on those switches assuming they are 10gbps trunks.
There will most certainly be more than 96 houses connected to a single aggregation stack - this is the way ISP's have operated for decades - it's called link contention. You oversubscribe a link deliberately as it means more money and the reality is not everybody on those links are hammering their connections 24/7 so there's scalability. Some ISP's have fairly low contention ratio's which mean faster general speeds for their end users. Some ISP's (*cough* Dodo *Cough) have ridiculously high contention ratio's and you can see the difference during peak times. ISP's these days like to call it 'congestion' on the network - but lets call it what it really is - greed and maximising profits by reducing bandwidth consumption at the wholesale level.

But it's not my router!
Yes it is. If you can buy it in JB Hi-Fi it most likely is. ISP Provided routers are junk (i.e. Technicolor), as are most Netgears, DLinks and even Billion has started to suck these days. I got rid of my last consumer router ages ago when I put a Cisco 1941 ISR in as my core router. Overkill for home? Absolutely - but I got it for a bargain ($600 several years back) and it's not missed a beat, ever. Constant 290 pings on the old DSL-M HWIC that was in it (even behind a RIM) and even now on the VDSL HWIC it still pulls 280 pings. Overwatch - 45ms. Not saying go shell out on a Cisco, not everyone has the skill to write configs for them anyway and for the general user it would be a nightmare, but even a more higher end device like a Draytek would be a vast improvement over the bog stock run of the mill consumer grade gear.

I'm getting 15-20fps - It's your fault!
No it's not. That's your potato machine. I get 99fps constant here at 2.5k (it would be more but the game limits it) resolution, with occasional drops to 60-70 in cyro or heavily populated zones (i.e. mournhold when 4 duels are going off around the wayshrine). That said, that's a GTX1080. Clearly not everyone has that kind of gear but you said it yourself 'onboard gpu'. That is your problem. Onboard GPU means you have one of three things -
1. you either have just an Intel HD Graphics chipset, which is rubbish, steals system RAM and won't handle ESO well at all
2. you have a standalone AMD Radeon or nVidia GTX Series chip which has it's own memory.
3. OR a combination of both which is quite common on gaming laptops.
If you have number 3, the aftermarket GPU only usually kicks in when the laptop is plugged into AC Power. This is the way it's designed due to the amount of power the GPU will consume. If you are on battery it will only use the Intel chip and hence, you will get 15-20fps as thats the max it can handle. However as you said you have a Celeron, which says to me you only have option 1.. And that is pretty much why you get 15-20fps.
Remember your GPU has to take in and render all the data streams its being fed in order to output display, if you are receiving more data on your link than your GPU is capable of processing, it will slow the framerate and drop frames in order to maintain some form of visual. That's why when you are in high population areas your framerate may drop substantially as it suddenly has to deal with a lot more visual input data, and it doesn't help when you have muppets running around a wayshrine spamming Blazing Spear and Healing Springs over and over.

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

because problems like yours are mostly due to local issues

You're familiar with all of my 'local' issues then?
Mostly? Not 'always'?

Belidos wrote: »

Yarlenzey wrote: »

I want a working game, please.
Specifically:

• A game that I can actually play within 5 minutes of starting it.
• No 15, 20, 25 minutes of staring a loading screens.
• No random disconnections.

I don't actually have 60-90minutes per day to waste on these issues.

What server/platform are you on?

I'm on the PC/EU server, and during the week at EU prime time i log on for an hour per night, during this time i 'm logging 8 characters in and out (crafting writs, horse training, sorting inventory), and zoning all over the place (i do three dolmens on each character, and daily pledges on each character), and i don't generally ever see more than a 30 second loading. I spent all last saturday running four of my eight characters around Cyrodil trying to get all the shards and again the longest load screen i had was a little under a minute.

It maybe server/platform/location related.

EU.

But this discussion is somewhat irrelevant now.
For whatever reason, the problem was corrected for about a week, prior to Monday's maintenance. However, from what I read here (the forum) now, lots of players all over the place have had similar problems since then. I'm not clear on if its been fixed again, or not.

My own view is that it is a load balancing issue at the server end. But that's as much of a guess as anyone else's.

For the numpties out there: This post was to point out that having a 'freebie' promotion in the middle of all this angst, really wasn't what I needed right now. I needed a working game, which for the record, is not an unreasonable request.

I want both.....yes I'm greedy

I have no problems getting on in less than 5 minutes, and I have been DCed once since I started this game. I would like my crates pls.

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

Yarlenzey wrote: »

I want a working game, please.
Specifically:

• A game that I can actually play within 5 minutes of starting it.
• No 15, 20, 25 minutes of staring a loading screens.
• No random disconnections.

I don't actually have 60-90minutes per day to waste on these issues.

If your game is taking 5 minutes to merely start and you have 15-25 minute load screens constantly, heck, longer than a couple minutes, I would suggest contacting tech support because something is wrong on your end giving I assume you have a decent PC, well, or not on console.

Essentially, what you described is mostly due to local issues. It is not the norm.

i play on console and my longest loading screen is 30 seconds. get off your high horse and see the pc version has more issues then the console ones

Yarlenzey wrote: »

I want a working game, please.
Specifically:

• A game that I can actually play within 5 minutes of starting it.
• No 15, 20, 25 minutes of staring a loading screens.
• No random disconnections.

I don't actually have 60-90minutes per day to waste on these issues.

1) I can.
2) I don't have them
3) I don't have them

I guess it's something on your side.