Anyone Running Impregnable Armor?

MurderMostFoul · June 2017

So I'm planning on running this on a DW/bow 2med/2heavy stamplar. I'm gonna go with a crafted offensive set for the second set (i'm thinking Clever Alchemist).

Question:

Should I go well-fitted or reinforced/nirnhoned for my traits?

I'm leaning toward well-fitted as I dodge roll a lot for mitigation, but am I majorly missing out by forgoing potentially hitting the resist cap?

HeathenDeacon · July 2017

are there weaposn for Impregnable? i can tfind them thx

Waffennacht · July 2017

I think well-fitted/sturdy would be my first choice - also you're not missing out on much by not reaching resist cap.

I love Alchemist, I have a bias for that set.

Weapons are found at the vendor

RouDeR · July 2017

Inuse 5 impreg and 5 cowards gear with maelstrom sword and bow on my stamsorc , however when 2 or more procblades jump on me i die 70% of the time so i switched back from the impreg to my Hundings for increased healing and raw dmg .

Xsorus · July 2017

I do well fitted medium on stam sorc with 1hd shield viper and tremors with bow

KingJ · July 2017

I been going 5 medium well fitted Impreg,5 senche,2 Selene really nice setup I like it.Decent recovery Damage and sustain.

DeHei · July 2017

Impen isnt very useful, because most guys run with proccsets and they DONT krit. You will not reduce there damage.. And here is the main problem..

You can wear medium and light armor with full impen and think, that you have a good defensive, but its a lie. You just reduce the incoming damage just a bit.. You can be bursted nearly like before. With medium armor you should learn to dodge and use shuffle to survive (For medium armoruser the skill is fair i think, but not for heavy armor). With light is better to use damage shields and get divined traits.

IxskullzxI · July 2017

DeHei wrote: »

Impen isnt very useful, because most guys run with proccsets and they DONT krit. You will not reduce there damage.. And here is the main problem..

You can wear medium and light armor with full impen and think, that you have a good defensive, but its a lie. You just reduce the incoming damage just a bit.. You can be bursted nearly like before. With medium armor you should learn to dodge and use shuffle to survive (For medium armoruser the skill is fair i think, but not for heavy armor). With light is better to use damage shields and get divined traits.

If you don't run any impen, you are going to get blown up so fast it's not even funny. You arent going to keep 100% up time on shields or be able to roll dodge every attack. Not everyone runs full proc builds. But hey, if that's what you want to do, go for it. It's always fun hitting 12k leaps

DeHei · July 2017

IxskullzxI wrote: »

DeHei wrote: »

Impen isnt very useful, because most guys run with proccsets and they DONT krit. You will not reduce there damage.. And here is the main problem..

You can wear medium and light armor with full impen and think, that you have a good defensive, but its a lie. You just reduce the incoming damage just a bit.. You can be bursted nearly like before. With medium armor you should learn to dodge and use shuffle to survive (For medium armoruser the skill is fair i think, but not for heavy armor). With light is better to use damage shields and get divined traits.

If you don't run any impen, you are going to get blown up so fast it's not even funny. You arent going to keep 100% up time on shields or be able to roll dodge every attack. Not everyone runs full proc builds. But hey, if that's what you want to do, go for it. It's always fun hitting 12k leaps

In my experience you cant survive much longer with heavy armor and full impen on a magickabuild. You stay longer but you die then, because you arent able to kill good guys. Finally your go out of ressources without killing anything... Yeah you able to kill scrubs, but you able to kill them will nearly all builds, when you are experienced. Only permablocker can deal with it, but i dont honor this playstyle.
Sure sonetimes i get a big hit, but on light armor it wouldnt be much lower, when i place divined for impen.. much pressure on enemies will help much, that they dont can make high pressure to you. I survived a lot of gankblades mate

Sometimes i die fast, true. But isnt a problem, the revenge is mine

Waffennacht · July 2017

IxskullzxI wrote: »

DeHei wrote: »

Impen isnt very useful, because most guys run with proccsets and they DONT krit. You will not reduce there damage.. And here is the main problem..

You can wear medium and light armor with full impen and think, that you have a good defensive, but its a lie. You just reduce the incoming damage just a bit.. You can be bursted nearly like before. With medium armor you should learn to dodge and use shuffle to survive (For medium armoruser the skill is fair i think, but not for heavy armor). With light is better to use damage shields and get divined traits.

If you don't run any impen, you are going to get blown up so fast it's not even funny. You arent going to keep 100% up time on shields or be able to roll dodge every attack. Not everyone runs full proc builds. But hey, if that's what you want to do, go for it. It's always fun hitting 12k leaps

Took a 10k leap yesterday with 3k impen, heavy, so imagine no impen

Alucardo · July 2017

I'm thinking about it. With Impregnable you could get away with TBS as your second set in full divines, then run around with 2 mundus stones and decently high stats thanks to both sets having max health, stamina and magicka.

Tonnopesce · July 2017

Alucardo wrote: »

I'm thinking about it. With Impregnable you could get away with TBS as your second set in full divines, then run around with 2 mundus stones and decently high stats thanks to both sets having max health, stamina and magicka.

Now i must ask... Are you human @Alucardo?
2 days that you are back and you have posted already 100 comments.

Alucardo · July 2017

Tonnopesce wrote: »

Alucardo wrote: »

I'm thinking about it. With Impregnable you could get away with TBS as your second set in full divines, then run around with 2 mundus stones and decently high stats thanks to both sets having max health, stamina and magicka.

Now i must ask... Are you human alucardo?
2 days that you are back and you have posted already 100 comments.

I've been in a vivec queue since Thursday. It helps pass the time ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Xsorus · July 2017

DeHei wrote: »

Impen isnt very useful, because most guys run with proccsets and they DONT krit. You will not reduce there damage.. And here is the main problem..

You can wear medium and light armor with full impen and think, that you have a good defensive, but its a lie. You just reduce the incoming damage just a bit.. You can be bursted nearly like before. With medium armor you should learn to dodge and use shuffle to survive (For medium armoruser the skill is fair i think, but not for heavy armor). With light is better to use damage shields and get divined traits.

So your suggesting not running Impregnable because who the hell eats EOTS, Dizzying Swing, Crystal Frags, Dark Flare, Surprise Attack, Soul Assault, Incap Strike, Dive, Leap, Crit Rush, Executioner ect ect in PvP....I mean none of those ever happen.

Its nothing but Viper/Tremors/Selene

*grin*

DeHei · July 2017

Xsorus wrote: »

DeHei wrote: »

Impen isnt very useful, because most guys run with proccsets and they DONT krit. You will not reduce there damage.. And here is the main problem..

You can wear medium and light armor with full impen and think, that you have a good defensive, but its a lie. You just reduce the incoming damage just a bit.. You can be bursted nearly like before. With medium armor you should learn to dodge and use shuffle to survive (For medium armoruser the skill is fair i think, but not for heavy armor). With light is better to use damage shields and get divined traits.

So your suggesting not running Impregnable because who the hell eats EOTS, Dizzying Swing, Crystal Frags, Dark Flare, Surprise Attack, Soul Assault, Incap Strike, Dive, Leap, Crit Rush, Executioner ect ect in PvP....I mean none of those ever happen.

Its nothing but Viper/Tremors/Selene

*grin*

I just say no Impen needed for light armor user. They have mighty mitigation shields. With a nearly 100% uptime from shields your krit and common resistances doesnt matter(that need a bit practise, but its possible with hardened ward only.. tested it last 2 days in the night with other really good Duell guys from guild "Colloseum" at Bergama in Alik'r). You need to recast your shield every 3-6 sec and spamm it 2-4 times during a burstcombo after breaking free. I have a bit 1k crit resistance and good resistances 22k armor- and 25k spellresistance too on my healingstaff too, to handle a bit overdamage, when i make a mistake. But i really think with good playing you dont need much crit resistance, its just wasting with damage mitigation shields!

IxskullzxI · July 2017

Waffennacht wrote: »

IxskullzxI wrote: »

DeHei wrote: »

Impen isnt very useful, because most guys run with proccsets and they DONT krit. You will not reduce there damage.. And here is the main problem..

You can wear medium and light armor with full impen and think, that you have a good defensive, but its a lie. You just reduce the incoming damage just a bit.. You can be bursted nearly like before. With medium armor you should learn to dodge and use shuffle to survive (For medium armoruser the skill is fair i think, but not for heavy armor). With light is better to use damage shields and get divined traits.

If you don't run any impen, you are going to get blown up so fast it's not even funny. You arent going to keep 100% up time on shields or be able to roll dodge every attack. Not everyone runs full proc builds. But hey, if that's what you want to do, go for it. It's always fun hitting 12k leaps

Took a 10k leap yesterday with 3k impen, heavy, so imagine no impen

Yeah I was just throwing numbers out. You would be a wet paper sack with no impen.

DeHei wrote: »

Xsorus wrote: »

DeHei wrote: »

Impen isnt very useful, because most guys run with proccsets and they DONT krit. You will not reduce there damage.. And here is the main problem..

You can wear medium and light armor with full impen and think, that you have a good defensive, but its a lie. You just reduce the incoming damage just a bit.. You can be bursted nearly like before. With medium armor you should learn to dodge and use shuffle to survive (For medium armoruser the skill is fair i think, but not for heavy armor). With light is better to use damage shields and get divined traits.

So your suggesting not running Impregnable because who the hell eats EOTS, Dizzying Swing, Crystal Frags, Dark Flare, Surprise Attack, Soul Assault, Incap Strike, Dive, Leap, Crit Rush, Executioner ect ect in PvP....I mean none of those ever happen.

Its nothing but Viper/Tremors/Selene

*grin*

I just say no Impen needed for light armor user. They have mighty mitigation shields. With a nearly 100% uptime from shields your krit and common resistances doesnt matter(that need a bit practise, but its possible with hardened ward only.. tested it last 2 days in the night with other really good Duell guys from guild "Colloseum" at Bergama in Alik'r). You need to recast your shield every 3-6 sec and spamm it 2-4 times during a burstcombo after breaking free. I have a bit 1k crit resistance and good resistances 22k armor- and 25k spellresistance too on my healingstaff too, to handle a bit overdamage, when i make a mistake. But i really think with good playing you dont need much crit resistance, its just wasting with damage mitigation shields!

Hardened ward? I'm not seeing that. Is it under draconic power?

DeHei · July 2017

IxskullzxI wrote: »

Waffennacht wrote: »

IxskullzxI wrote: »

DeHei wrote: »

Impen isnt very useful, because most guys run with proccsets and they DONT krit. You will not reduce there damage.. And here is the main problem..

You can wear medium and light armor with full impen and think, that you have a good defensive, but its a lie. You just reduce the incoming damage just a bit.. You can be bursted nearly like before. With medium armor you should learn to dodge and use shuffle to survive (For medium armoruser the skill is fair i think, but not for heavy armor). With light is better to use damage shields and get divined traits.

If you don't run any impen, you are going to get blown up so fast it's not even funny. You arent going to keep 100% up time on shields or be able to roll dodge every attack. Not everyone runs full proc builds. But hey, if that's what you want to do, go for it. It's always fun hitting 12k leaps

Took a 10k leap yesterday with 3k impen, heavy, so imagine no impen

Yeah I was just throwing numbers out. You would be a wet paper sack with no impen.

DeHei wrote: »

Xsorus wrote: »

DeHei wrote: »

Impen isnt very useful, because most guys run with proccsets and they DONT krit. You will not reduce there damage.. And here is the main problem..

You can wear medium and light armor with full impen and think, that you have a good defensive, but its a lie. You just reduce the incoming damage just a bit.. You can be bursted nearly like before. With medium armor you should learn to dodge and use shuffle to survive (For medium armoruser the skill is fair i think, but not for heavy armor). With light is better to use damage shields and get divined traits.

So your suggesting not running Impregnable because who the hell eats EOTS, Dizzying Swing, Crystal Frags, Dark Flare, Surprise Attack, Soul Assault, Incap Strike, Dive, Leap, Crit Rush, Executioner ect ect in PvP....I mean none of those ever happen.

Its nothing but Viper/Tremors/Selene

*grin*

I just say no Impen needed for light armor user. They have mighty mitigation shields. With a nearly 100% uptime from shields your krit and common resistances doesnt matter(that need a bit practise, but its possible with hardened ward only.. tested it last 2 days in the night with other really good Duell guys from guild "Colloseum" at Bergama in Alik'r). You need to recast your shield every 3-6 sec and spamm it 2-4 times during a burstcombo after breaking free. I have a bit 1k crit resistance and good resistances 22k armor- and 25k spellresistance too on my healingstaff too, to handle a bit overdamage, when i make a mistake. But i really think with good playing you dont need much crit resistance, its just wasting with damage mitigation shields!

Hardened ward? I'm not seeing that. Is it under draconic power?

Healingstaff morph of the 4th skill mate

raasdal · July 2017

DeHei wrote: »

IxskullzxI wrote: »

Waffennacht wrote: »

IxskullzxI wrote: »

DeHei wrote: »

Impen isnt very useful, because most guys run with proccsets and they DONT krit. You will not reduce there damage.. And here is the main problem..

You can wear medium and light armor with full impen and think, that you have a good defensive, but its a lie. You just reduce the incoming damage just a bit.. You can be bursted nearly like before. With medium armor you should learn to dodge and use shuffle to survive (For medium armoruser the skill is fair i think, but not for heavy armor). With light is better to use damage shields and get divined traits.

If you don't run any impen, you are going to get blown up so fast it's not even funny. You arent going to keep 100% up time on shields or be able to roll dodge every attack. Not everyone runs full proc builds. But hey, if that's what you want to do, go for it. It's always fun hitting 12k leaps

Took a 10k leap yesterday with 3k impen, heavy, so imagine no impen

Yeah I was just throwing numbers out. You would be a wet paper sack with no impen.

DeHei wrote: »

Xsorus wrote: »

DeHei wrote: »

Impen isnt very useful, because most guys run with proccsets and they DONT krit. You will not reduce there damage.. And here is the main problem..

You can wear medium and light armor with full impen and think, that you have a good defensive, but its a lie. You just reduce the incoming damage just a bit.. You can be bursted nearly like before. With medium armor you should learn to dodge and use shuffle to survive (For medium armoruser the skill is fair i think, but not for heavy armor). With light is better to use damage shields and get divined traits.

So your suggesting not running Impregnable because who the hell eats EOTS, Dizzying Swing, Crystal Frags, Dark Flare, Surprise Attack, Soul Assault, Incap Strike, Dive, Leap, Crit Rush, Executioner ect ect in PvP....I mean none of those ever happen.

Its nothing but Viper/Tremors/Selene

*grin*

I just say no Impen needed for light armor user. They have mighty mitigation shields. With a nearly 100% uptime from shields your krit and common resistances doesnt matter(that need a bit practise, but its possible with hardened ward only.. tested it last 2 days in the night with other really good Duell guys from guild "Colloseum" at Bergama in Alik'r). You need to recast your shield every 3-6 sec and spamm it 2-4 times during a burstcombo after breaking free. I have a bit 1k crit resistance and good resistances 22k armor- and 25k spellresistance too on my healingstaff too, to handle a bit overdamage, when i make a mistake. But i really think with good playing you dont need much crit resistance, its just wasting with damage mitigation shields!

Hardened ward? I'm not seeing that. Is it under draconic power?

Healingstaff morph of the 4th skill mate

That is called Healing Ward... Hardened Ward is the Sorcerer skill. IxskullzxI is being sarcastic / trolling

Derra · July 2017

DeHei wrote: »

Xsorus wrote: »

DeHei wrote: »

Impen isnt very useful, because most guys run with proccsets and they DONT krit. You will not reduce there damage.. And here is the main problem..

You can wear medium and light armor with full impen and think, that you have a good defensive, but its a lie. You just reduce the incoming damage just a bit.. You can be bursted nearly like before. With medium armor you should learn to dodge and use shuffle to survive (For medium armoruser the skill is fair i think, but not for heavy armor). With light is better to use damage shields and get divined traits.

So your suggesting not running Impregnable because who the hell eats EOTS, Dizzying Swing, Crystal Frags, Dark Flare, Surprise Attack, Soul Assault, Incap Strike, Dive, Leap, Crit Rush, Executioner ect ect in PvP....I mean none of those ever happen.

Its nothing but Viper/Tremors/Selene

*grin*

I just say no Impen needed for light armor user. They have mighty mitigation shields. With a nearly 100% uptime from shields your krit and common resistances doesnt matter(that need a bit practise, but its possible with hardened ward only.. tested it last 2 days in the night with other really good Duell guys from guild "Colloseum" at Bergama in Alik'r). You need to recast your shield every 3-6 sec and spamm it 2-4 times during a burstcombo after breaking free. I have a bit 1k crit resistance and good resistances 22k armor- and 25k spellresistance too on my healingstaff too, to handle a bit overdamage, when i make a mistake. But i really think with good playing you dont need much crit resistance, its just wasting with damage mitigation shields!

Which is true for 1v1 - somewhat.

Open world you inevitably get attacked by more than 1 person. Your shields inevitably drop in that case. I hit ~10k fragments on light armor and 2500 crit resistance.
No critresist players are the ones that produce the juicy 15k+ hits that make my day every once in a while.

DeHei · July 2017

Derra wrote: »

DeHei wrote: »

Xsorus wrote: »

DeHei wrote: »

Impen isnt very useful, because most guys run with proccsets and they DONT krit. You will not reduce there damage.. And here is the main problem..

You can wear medium and light armor with full impen and think, that you have a good defensive, but its a lie. You just reduce the incoming damage just a bit.. You can be bursted nearly like before. With medium armor you should learn to dodge and use shuffle to survive (For medium armoruser the skill is fair i think, but not for heavy armor). With light is better to use damage shields and get divined traits.

So your suggesting not running Impregnable because who the hell eats EOTS, Dizzying Swing, Crystal Frags, Dark Flare, Surprise Attack, Soul Assault, Incap Strike, Dive, Leap, Crit Rush, Executioner ect ect in PvP....I mean none of those ever happen.

Its nothing but Viper/Tremors/Selene

*grin*

I just say no Impen needed for light armor user. They have mighty mitigation shields. With a nearly 100% uptime from shields your krit and common resistances doesnt matter(that need a bit practise, but its possible with hardened ward only.. tested it last 2 days in the night with other really good Duell guys from guild "Colloseum" at Bergama in Alik'r). You need to recast your shield every 3-6 sec and spamm it 2-4 times during a burstcombo after breaking free. I have a bit 1k crit resistance and good resistances 22k armor- and 25k spellresistance too on my healingstaff too, to handle a bit overdamage, when i make a mistake. But i really think with good playing you dont need much crit resistance, its just wasting with damage mitigation shields!

Which is true for 1v1 - somewhat.

Open world you inevitably get attacked by more than 1 person. Your shields inevitably drop in that case. I hit ~10k fragments on light armor and 2500 crit resistance.
No critresist players are the ones that produce the juicy 15k+ hits that make my day every once in a while.

And a solution to play against you is stacking more defensive??!
I need to bring you under trouble and for that i play like you with much damage.. wouldnt be the first magicka sorc i killed.. I dont think, that you fear tanky magicka Templar...

I can handle more player sometimes, not like a mage, who can escape while rooted or other things, but good enough.

raasdal wrote: »

DeHei wrote: »

IxskullzxI wrote: »

Waffennacht wrote: »

IxskullzxI wrote: »

DeHei wrote: »

Impen isnt very useful, because most guys run with proccsets and they DONT krit. You will not reduce there damage.. And here is the main problem..

You can wear medium and light armor with full impen and think, that you have a good defensive, but its a lie. You just reduce the incoming damage just a bit.. You can be bursted nearly like before. With medium armor you should learn to dodge and use shuffle to survive (For medium armoruser the skill is fair i think, but not for heavy armor). With light is better to use damage shields and get divined traits.

If you don't run any impen, you are going to get blown up so fast it's not even funny. You arent going to keep 100% up time on shields or be able to roll dodge every attack. Not everyone runs full proc builds. But hey, if that's what you want to do, go for it. It's always fun hitting 12k leaps

Took a 10k leap yesterday with 3k impen, heavy, so imagine no impen

Yeah I was just throwing numbers out. You would be a wet paper sack with no impen.

DeHei wrote: »

Xsorus wrote: »

DeHei wrote: »

Impen isnt very useful, because most guys run with proccsets and they DONT krit. You will not reduce there damage.. And here is the main problem..

You can wear medium and light armor with full impen and think, that you have a good defensive, but its a lie. You just reduce the incoming damage just a bit.. You can be bursted nearly like before. With medium armor you should learn to dodge and use shuffle to survive (For medium armoruser the skill is fair i think, but not for heavy armor). With light is better to use damage shields and get divined traits.

So your suggesting not running Impregnable because who the hell eats EOTS, Dizzying Swing, Crystal Frags, Dark Flare, Surprise Attack, Soul Assault, Incap Strike, Dive, Leap, Crit Rush, Executioner ect ect in PvP....I mean none of those ever happen.

Its nothing but Viper/Tremors/Selene

*grin*

I just say no Impen needed for light armor user. They have mighty mitigation shields. With a nearly 100% uptime from shields your krit and common resistances doesnt matter(that need a bit practise, but its possible with hardened ward only.. tested it last 2 days in the night with other really good Duell guys from guild "Colloseum" at Bergama in Alik'r). You need to recast your shield every 3-6 sec and spamm it 2-4 times during a burstcombo after breaking free. I have a bit 1k crit resistance and good resistances 22k armor- and 25k spellresistance too on my healingstaff too, to handle a bit overdamage, when i make a mistake. But i really think with good playing you dont need much crit resistance, its just wasting with damage mitigation shields!

Hardened ward? I'm not seeing that. Is it under draconic power?

Healingstaff morph of the 4th skill mate

That is called Healing Ward... Hardened Ward is the Sorcerer skill. IxskullzxI is being sarcastic / trolling

I am sry, the night wasnt long and my kid jumped on me to let my sleep end

IxskullzxI · July 2017

Yeah it's not realistic to keep shields up at all times. At some point they will go down, and without any impen, you'll get lit up when it happens. I do use healing ward, but I play pretty much only BGs and with max stats being lower there and no cp, my ward isnt all that big even with low health. It isn't really viable to not run impen imo. Also, @Derra when you stack multiple shields, what order do they get applied in? As in, if I cast healing ward, then harness, which takes damage first?

Derra · July 2017

DeHei wrote: »

Derra wrote: »

DeHei wrote: »

Xsorus wrote: »

DeHei wrote: »

Impen isnt very useful, because most guys run with proccsets and they DONT krit. You will not reduce there damage.. And here is the main problem..

You can wear medium and light armor with full impen and think, that you have a good defensive, but its a lie. You just reduce the incoming damage just a bit.. You can be bursted nearly like before. With medium armor you should learn to dodge and use shuffle to survive (For medium armoruser the skill is fair i think, but not for heavy armor). With light is better to use damage shields and get divined traits.

So your suggesting not running Impregnable because who the hell eats EOTS, Dizzying Swing, Crystal Frags, Dark Flare, Surprise Attack, Soul Assault, Incap Strike, Dive, Leap, Crit Rush, Executioner ect ect in PvP....I mean none of those ever happen.

Its nothing but Viper/Tremors/Selene

*grin*

I just say no Impen needed for light armor user. They have mighty mitigation shields. With a nearly 100% uptime from shields your krit and common resistances doesnt matter(that need a bit practise, but its possible with hardened ward only.. tested it last 2 days in the night with other really good Duell guys from guild "Colloseum" at Bergama in Alik'r). You need to recast your shield every 3-6 sec and spamm it 2-4 times during a burstcombo after breaking free. I have a bit 1k crit resistance and good resistances 22k armor- and 25k spellresistance too on my healingstaff too, to handle a bit overdamage, when i make a mistake. But i really think with good playing you dont need much crit resistance, its just wasting with damage mitigation shields!

Which is true for 1v1 - somewhat.

Open world you inevitably get attacked by more than 1 person. Your shields inevitably drop in that case. I hit ~10k fragments on light armor and 2500 crit resistance.
No critresist players are the ones that produce the juicy 15k+ hits that make my day every once in a while.

And a solution to play against you is stacking more defensive??!
I need to bring you under trouble and for that i play like you with much damage.. wouldnt be the first magicka sorc i killed.. I dont think, that you fear tanky magicka Templar...
I can handle more player sometimes, not like a mage, who can escape while rooted or other things, but good enough.

All i´m saying is the offensive gain by not running impen compares in no way to the defensive gains by running it.

With 7 divines shadow which is the biggest dmg boost you can get from not running impen you merely gain 6% dmg (which equals a dmg increase of ~3.5% on crits.

Infused/divines are just really really ineffective compared to wellfitted, sturdy and impen.

Waffennacht · July 2017

IxskullzxI wrote: »

Yeah it's not realistic to keep shields up at all times. At some point they will go down, and without any impen, you'll get lit up when it happens. I do use healing ward, but I play pretty much only BGs and with max stats being lower there and no cp, my ward isnt all that big even with low health. It isn't really viable to not run impen imo. Also, @Derra when you stack multiple shields, what order do they get applied in? As in, if I cast healing ward, then harness, which takes damage first?

@IxskullzxI first shield cast is the first to be damaged. So like Dampen, then Healing to protect Healing

IxskullzxI · July 2017

Waffennacht wrote: »

IxskullzxI wrote: »

Yeah it's not realistic to keep shields up at all times. At some point they will go down, and without any impen, you'll get lit up when it happens. I do use healing ward, but I play pretty much only BGs and with max stats being lower there and no cp, my ward isnt all that big even with low health. It isn't really viable to not run impen imo. Also, @Derra when you stack multiple shields, what order do they get applied in? As in, if I cast healing ward, then harness, which takes damage first?

@IxskullzxI first shield cast is the first to be damaged. So like Dampen, then Healing to protect Healing

Awsome, thanks! I was never 100% sure on that.

MurderMostFoul · July 2017

Now that we see the major buff to multiple Mundus stones, anyone looking at Impreg+Twice Born all in divines?

Chilly-McFreeze · July 2017

MurderMostFoul wrote: »

Now that we see the major buff to multiple Mundus stones, anyone looking at Impreg+Twice Born all in divines?

Sounds interesting. Quick question: If I run DW + bow, with 5 TBS on DW, 4 on Bow, will I loose the second mundus for good when I swap bars?

But that aside, here's what I thought about that in a hurry. Probably incorrect since I didn't do all the math right now.

What could you make out of the second mundus that wouldn't be able to achieve from other sets as well?

With 2x each resource you are practically without any set bonus to recovery, damage, critical.

Means you probably have to use a recovery mundus to get on par + 1-2 regen glyphs, depending on your food buffs. Leaves you with the choice to use crit chance, damage or penetration as second mundus.

Since sharpened get's nerfed (-2.7k pen) you might want to go for the lover mundus (+2.7k penetration) to have the pen you have now + a bit more from divines IF you use sharpened weapons.
If not you loose out on pen compared to live. But then you could run a precise weapon to compensate for thief mundus.

Leaves you with 1-2 jewel enchants for dmg if you don't want to use block/ feat reduction or more regen etc.

Could workout but it's probably not BiS. Especially if you mind the question I asked on top, leaving you with only 1 monster piece on most builds. Also no procs for you. But I will check it out when my pts download is done.

MurderMostFoul · July 2017

Chilly-McFreeze wrote: »

MurderMostFoul wrote: »

Now that we see the major buff to multiple Mundus stones, anyone looking at Impreg+Twice Born all in divines?

Sounds interesting. Quick question: If I run DW + bow, with 5 TBS on DW, 4 on Bow, will I loose the second mundus for good when I swap bars?

But that aside, here's what I thought about that in a hurry. Probably incorrect since I didn't do all the math right now.

What could you make out of the second mundus that wouldn't be able to achieve from other sets as well?

With 2x each resource you are practically without any set bonus to recovery, damage, critical.

Means you probably have to use a recovery mundus to get on par + 1-2 regen glyphs, depending on your food buffs. Leaves you with the choice to use crit chance, damage or penetration as second mundus.

Since sharpened get's nerfed (-2.7k pen) you might want to go for the lover mundus (+2.7k penetration) to have the pen you have now + a bit more from divines IF you use sharpened weapons.
If not you loose out on pen compared to live. But then you could run a precise weapon to compensate for thief mundus.

Leaves you with 1-2 jewel enchants for dmg if you don't want to use block/ feat reduction or more regen etc.

Could workout but it's probably not BiS. Especially if you mind the question I asked on top, leaving you with only 1 monster piece on most builds. Also no procs for you. But I will check it out when my pts download is done.

Yeah, I just did some maths myself and it still seems pretty clear that

Impreg+Twice Born all in divines < 2 5-piece set bonus all in impen + one mundus

Lughlongarm · July 2017

MurderMostFoul wrote: »

Chilly-McFreeze wrote: »

MurderMostFoul wrote: »

Now that we see the major buff to multiple Mundus stones, anyone looking at Impreg+Twice Born all in divines?

Yeah, I just did some maths myself and it still seems pretty clear that

Impreg+Twice Born all in divines < 2 5-piece set bonus all in impen + one mundus

Not sure you are right, this sets combo provide lots of value. It can be very good on builds that use both resources like NB/Sorcs . You can get like 350 weapon damage\ 3,100 stamina on top of 2,500 health, 2,200 magica, 2,200 stamina, 2,500 cit resist. It's also very agile as you can just change the mundus stones for different situations. The biggest weakness is that you need both sets active all the time so it's harder to find place for monster set.