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MakeMeUhSamich
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Yep. Time to beat the dead horse again.

I'm trying to help 2 guild members level their alts (one is DPS-one is tank-levels 19&25 respectively) by supplying good DPS and running the random daily normal dungeon. However, 3 times now we queued into a DLC dungeon with no chance of completing at their level (yes, we all know the mechanics).

Please, ZOS, add a toggle or something to exclude such low level players being added to DLC content. We apologized to the healers we queued up with each time and promptly left each instance. You guessed it, we were also hit with the 15 minute penalty each time. Yay!

/endrant
Edited by MakeMeUhSamich on July 7, 2017 10:38PM
  • imnotanother
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    Random que will put you in a random dungeon. Just que for the dungeon you want.
    PS4: NA - AD PSN: imnotanother (Artell Lyeselle)
    Stamina NightBlade 810+ CP - PvP/Trials/Dungeon Ready
  • MakeMeUhSamich
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    We want the random xp bonus.
  • MakeMeUhSamich
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    4 in a row now...one hour and counting. Yay!
  • abigfishy
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    I kind of agree the dlc dungeons shouldn't be part of the daily random. I hate when a new toon hits level 10 I queue for my first random dungeon and get Wgt. I think the other three players probably hate me too.

    At least there could be a level limit for them appearing like maybe around level 30. Does anyone really think four new players playing level 10 characters could clear any of the dlc dungeons or that it would be a positive experience for them?
    Edited by abigfishy on July 7, 2017 10:42PM
    Level 50 Characters
    USA
    Odette Skullcrusher Nord DK EP Tank
    Hannah Smithee Breton Templar DC Healer
    Charlotte of the Wild Bosmer NB EP DPS
    Rabbath Amman Dark Elf Sorc EP DPS
    Lovely Twinkle High Elf Sorc AD Tank
    Nepith Dark Elf Warden EP Healer
    Tupac Shakoor Redguard Sorc DC Tank
    Faire the Last Snow Elf Altmer Warden EP Ice Staff Tank
    EU
    Soul-Shriven Breton Sorc DC DPS
    Makush gro-Shurgal Orc DK DC Tank
    Cleopatra Tharn Imperial Sorc EP Healer
    Daenerys Targaryin Nord Templar DC Healer
    Zar Saarshar Khajiit NB DC Thief
    Celrith High Elf Sorc EP Assassin
    Falcar Dark Elf NB DC Necromancer
    Myriam Blaylock Breton NB EP Vampire
    Nivrillin Wood Elf NB DC Werewolf
  • MakeMeUhSamich
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    Update: We called it after the 4th in a row...just not worth the wait. I understand allowing players who WANT to try that content access, but, damn...allow us a toggle to opt out at such low levels when the DLC dungeons comprise such a large percentage of available dungeons when queued as a random.
  • abigfishy
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    I hate clowns and so I hope you burn in hell.

    But if they are new it is still worth finding a 4th and doing the six basic dungeons fast for the skilpoints and xp for the quests. FG, SC, BC, WS etc.

    The other solution is find from guild or zone chat a 4th player who does not own the dlc dungeons and queue with them. (Wont work this weekend but will normally.)
    Edited by abigfishy on July 7, 2017 10:56PM
    Level 50 Characters
    USA
    Odette Skullcrusher Nord DK EP Tank
    Hannah Smithee Breton Templar DC Healer
    Charlotte of the Wild Bosmer NB EP DPS
    Rabbath Amman Dark Elf Sorc EP DPS
    Lovely Twinkle High Elf Sorc AD Tank
    Nepith Dark Elf Warden EP Healer
    Tupac Shakoor Redguard Sorc DC Tank
    Faire the Last Snow Elf Altmer Warden EP Ice Staff Tank
    EU
    Soul-Shriven Breton Sorc DC DPS
    Makush gro-Shurgal Orc DK DC Tank
    Cleopatra Tharn Imperial Sorc EP Healer
    Daenerys Targaryin Nord Templar DC Healer
    Zar Saarshar Khajiit NB DC Thief
    Celrith High Elf Sorc EP Assassin
    Falcar Dark Elf NB DC Necromancer
    Myriam Blaylock Breton NB EP Vampire
    Nivrillin Wood Elf NB DC Werewolf
  • NukeAllTheThings
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    I have had players lower than OP's group queue in to all DLC normal dungeons and was able to complete them all. It was more difficult and took more time but we got through them all. I did feel sorry for the lvl 10 tank that got matched with nRoM for his/her 1st random dungeon ever though.

    I do wish there was a solution that would reduce that chance of happening though.
    "it's important to state that our decision to go with subscriptions is not a referendum on online game revenue models. F2P, B2P, etc. are valid, proven business models - but subscription is the one that fits ESO the best, given our commitment to freedom of gameplay, quality and long-term content delivery. Plus, players will appreciate not having to worry about being "monetized" in the middle of playing the game, which is definitely a problem that is cropping up more and more in online gaming these days." - Matt Firor
  • disintegr8
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    There should some kind of dungeon difficulty factored into group finder - especially for DLC dungeons.

    Lets face it, 4 level 20's with no CP are unlikely to get through RoM or SoH. Telling them to select the dungeon/s they want to run is not a solution, they should not have to forego the random daily bonus.
    Australian on PS4 NA server.
    Everyone's entitled to an opinion.
  • Bryong9ub17_ESO
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    I just did Imperial City Prison while leveling my Warden with little problems. I has the highest level at 48, the one dps was mid 20s other what 30s and tank was 30 something.

    We completed it with little issues. Granted i was healing almost non-stop during the boss fights.
  • kargen27
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    You should at least go give the first boss a try. As you said you are getting a 15 minute penalty anyway so why not use the 15 minutes to see how far you can get? Ya never know, you could actually make it through.
    and then the parrot said, "must be the water mines green too."
  • vamp_emily
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    One thing I would suggest is, find 4 people before you que for random, you will still get the random reward. If you don't have 4 players then ask in zone chat for a high cp player.

    Also note, if you have 4 players then que for the random and get kicked out as soon as you enter the dungeon, you can manually go back to that dungeon and still get the random reward.

    I know some players are just not that good but majority of the time when I cued for nWGT with low levels we didn't have any problem when they new the mechanics.




    If you want a friend, get a dog.
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  • MarbleQuiche
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    I healed WGT daily random yesterday. I believe the others were lvl 11, 13 and 14. I think I was 30. One player was completely new to ESO too.

    We did it with only a few deaths on last two bosses and no wipes. They're very doable.

    So long as you're not the healer...

    Same character last week, hit lvl 10 queued for random and got WGT. The rest were in their 30's and 40's and we kept wiping within seconds on the 3 bosses in the room with the scroll. I eventually apologised and left, saying I didn't expect group finder to put a lvl 10 healer into that dungeon.

    You can do any dungeon at any level as DPS/tank, imo, but some require a variation in healing or raw power that just isn't achievable at low levels.
    Edited by MarbleQuiche on July 8, 2017 12:00AM
    Currently obsessed with battlegrounds. Spamming here between rounds. Sometimes, when forums are particularly good, I skip ballerina around*

    *autocorrected nonsense, but it sounds amusing enough to me that I've taken up ballet
  • MrBetadine
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    VoM: unlock at lvl 45;
    DLC dungs: unlock at lvl 10;
    RIP logic
  • mesmerizedish
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    I DPSed Cradle of Shadows at like level 20. If you know the mechanics, as you say you do, it's more than doable. The only problem here is that you refused to try it.
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