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ESO or FFXIV
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StormWylf✭✭✭✭ESOGuessing you were trying to stir it up a bit. But you picked a Turd. This wasn't even close.0 -
snakester320✭✭✭✭FFXIVI picked ffxiv for many reasons while I think eso is a slightly better game graphically and combat it FAILS on so many lvls that ffxiv exceeds in that there's really no comparison no scam crates decent regular content no cut up to peices expan to sell off in bits housing with functionality that doesn't cost real money to buy more dungeons better crafting combat is so so but beats eso because it has set classes not make your own and fail in dungeon runs proper auction house the list goes on.. pc and PS4 players play together..
Ohh I forgot there's a sub but for 3 monthly updates with content that nails elder scrolls into the ground only reason ppl play elder scrolls is ZOS is scamming them off the back of skyrim which was a awesome game otherwise it would be dead by now!!2 -
MLGProPlayer✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭ESOFFXIV is a traditional "stand in one spot and face roll" MMO with tab targetting and global cooldowns. It's a joke to even compare the two.
I don't know how some people stay awake playing that crap.Edited by MLGProPlayer on June 29, 2017 1:47AM0 -
StormWylf✭✭✭✭ESOsnakester320 wrote: »I picked ffxiv for many reasons while I think eso is a slightly better game graphically and combat it FAILS on so many lvls that ffxiv exceeds in that there's really no comparison no scam crates decent regular content no cut up to peices expan to sell off in bits housing with functionality that doesn't cost real money to buy more dungeons better crafting combat is so so but beats eso because it has set classes not make your own and fail in dungeon runs proper auction house the list goes on.. pc and PS4 players play together..
Ohh I forgot there's a sub but for 3 monthly updates with content that nails elder scrolls into the ground only reason ppl play elder scrolls is ZOS is scamming them off the back of skyrim which was a awesome game otherwise it would be dead by now!!
Ah got it now, this was not a real poll, but in fact is another I hate ESO post. Ummmmm OK, have fun out there.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭ESOKyle1983b14_ESO wrote: »Housing and Group finders are far superior in FFXIV, everything else is better in ESO in my opinion.
Wow, just checked out the housing system in FFXIV. Yeah, much better than ESO's.
https://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/wiki/Housing
I can feel the sarcasm !
"Housing not accessed by the owner after a period of time will be reclaimed by the game."
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Quest Objective: OMG Go Talk To That Kitty!0 -
snakester320✭✭✭✭FFXIV
Have a cry while you blow stupid money on a greedy company and get bugger back for it but all the power to you lmfao!snakester320 wrote: »I picked ffxiv for many reasons while I think eso is a slightly better game graphically and combat it FAILS on so many lvls that ffxiv exceeds in that there's really no comparison no scam crates decent regular content no cut up to peices expan to sell off in bits housing with functionality that doesn't cost real money to buy more dungeons better crafting combat is so so but beats eso because it has set classes not make your own and fail in dungeon runs proper auction house the list goes on.. pc and PS4 players play together..
Ohh I forgot there's a sub but for 3 monthly updates with content that nails elder scrolls into the ground only reason ppl play elder scrolls is ZOS is scamming them off the back of skyrim which was a awesome game otherwise it would be dead by now!!
Ah got it now, this was not a real poll, but in fact is another I hate ESO post. Ummmmm OK, have fun out there.
Ppl like you are the ones who defend ZOS and the bs method but cry the loudest when the prices get more and more expensive and then stupidly ask WHY?
Edited by snakester320 on June 29, 2017 3:19AM0 -
MLGProPlayer✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭ESOsnakester320 wrote: »
Have a cry while you blow stupid money on a greedy company and get bugger back for it but all the power to you lmfao!snakester320 wrote: »I picked ffxiv for many reasons while I think eso is a slightly better game graphically and combat it FAILS on so many lvls that ffxiv exceeds in that there's really no comparison no scam crates decent regular content no cut up to peices expan to sell off in bits housing with functionality that doesn't cost real money to buy more dungeons better crafting combat is so so but beats eso because it has set classes not make your own and fail in dungeon runs proper auction house the list goes on.. pc and PS4 players play together..
Ohh I forgot there's a sub but for 3 monthly updates with content that nails elder scrolls into the ground only reason ppl play elder scrolls is ZOS is scamming them off the back of skyrim which was a awesome game otherwise it would be dead by now!!
Ah got it now, this was not a real poll, but in fact is another I hate ESO post. Ummmmm OK, have fun out there.
Ppl like you are the ones who defend ZOS and the bs method but cry the loudest when the prices get more and more expensive and then stupidly ask WHY?
Zenimax is far from an upstanding publisher. FFXIV sucks. The two aren't mutually exclusive.Edited by MLGProPlayer on June 29, 2017 4:01AM1 -
Eshelmen✭✭✭✭✭ESOImo, if you get the chance to play both, do it!
I had a better time leveling up to cap in FFXIV, but have enjoyed being at cap with ESOPC and PS4 EP only player0 -
Narvuntien✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭ESOYou are on the ESO forums of course its going to win.
The only reason to play any MMO is that actually like the setting and the lore and all the things around the gameplay. Because honestly all MMO are pretty much variants on the same grindy gameplay.
I have 0 connection to the Final fantasy franchise, I have never played any of them. i think I saw someone play it once and it looked terrible. As such there is no reason for me to even try the game.0 -
StormWylf✭✭✭✭ESOsnakester320 wrote: »
Have a cry while you blow stupid money on a greedy company and get bugger back for it but all the power to you lmfao!snakester320 wrote: »I picked ffxiv for many reasons while I think eso is a slightly better game graphically and combat it FAILS on so many lvls that ffxiv exceeds in that there's really no comparison no scam crates decent regular content no cut up to peices expan to sell off in bits housing with functionality that doesn't cost real money to buy more dungeons better crafting combat is so so but beats eso because it has set classes not make your own and fail in dungeon runs proper auction house the list goes on.. pc and PS4 players play together..
Ohh I forgot there's a sub but for 3 monthly updates with content that nails elder scrolls into the ground only reason ppl play elder scrolls is ZOS is scamming them off the back of skyrim which was a awesome game otherwise it would be dead by now!!
Ah got it now, this was not a real poll, but in fact is another I hate ESO post. Ummmmm OK, have fun out there.
Ppl like you are the ones who defend ZOS and the bs method but cry the loudest when the prices get more and more expensive and then stupidly ask WHY?
Your rant is a non sequitur phrased in a manner that is grammatically jarring and, quite frankly, it's biggest sin is that it is dull. Perhaps if you tried again you might make more sense next time. It's worth a shot.Edited by StormWylf on June 29, 2017 5:18AM1 -
subtlezeroub17_ESO✭✭✭✭ESOHere's my thing about FFXIV vs ESO.
Graphics:
FFxiv graphically can't be compared to eso. Why ? Think about it. In FFXIV the graphics are beautiful because each and every model is based off of the human model. Furthermore, all classes have the same skills and animations, there's no variance like ESO, so they don't have to try so hard to make the models move fluidly between each and every spell.
Gameplay:
FFxiv has superior group play but poor pvp. Honestly, ZoS could learn something from them. However, once again, fixed classes with very little variation leads to easy balancing and thus more interesting mechanics employed.
As for the solo play, I actually think ESO wins here. FFxiv solo is boring and mostly about exploration. While it's novel at first, it becomes a drudge after a while. ESO has much more single player friendly content.
Housing goes to ffxiv. There's nothing else needed to be said. ZoS , take a page from them and study it.
Crafting goes to FFxiv, that was extremely engaging. While crafting can be a side hobby, there's not enough worthwhile stuff to craft in eso
Pvp goes to ESO. Why ? FFxiv is simply too slow and elaborate for pvp. ESO is much more suited to action packed fights than FF. Plus, I see a lot of unused potential with ESO.
Class design:
Honestly, you can't compare the two because they are on opposite spectrums. Actually, I think WoW had the perfect model. Classes in general were uniform but they gave you plenty of options to fine tune your class to your liking with all viable options thus creating diversity within the bounds of the class. Furthermore, FFXIV has a really bad issue where every class is a chore to play until around lvl40. If I weren't so damn stubborn, I would have never gotten my summoner to cap since until HS, the class is boring and mind numbing.
Quests:
I think ESO wins. FFxiv quests were boring and the voice acting really puts you into the immersing world.the problem with FFxiv is that most of the quests are boring fetch or kill quests. Matter fact, it's well known that the interesting stuff doesn't start until heavensward. I don't think it's acceptable for a whoe 50 levels to be so bad.
Music:
FFXIV wins here but then FF was always well known for their really fantastic music.Edited by subtlezeroub17_ESO on June 29, 2017 5:46AM1 -
dday3six✭✭✭✭✭
✭FFXIVMLGProPlayer wrote: »FFXIV is a traditional "stand in one spot and face roll" MMO with tab targetting and global cooldowns. It's a joke to even compare the two.
I don't know how some people stay awake playing that crap.
Stand in one place? No, there's AOEs to dodge and mechanics to be done. Seems like your bias begets misinformation and confusion.
FFXIV's GCD is 2.5s at base, which can lowered besides there being off GCD skills. However the main purpose of the GCD is to support animations which are longer and more flashy, often with multiple movements.
Preferences are one thing, but try to at least present honesty representation.1 -
dday3six✭✭✭✭✭
✭FFXIVsubtlezeroub17_ESO wrote: »Here's my thing about FFXIV vs ESO.
Graphics:
FFxiv graphically can't be compared to eso. Why ? Think about it. In FFXIV the graphics are beautiful because each and every model is based off of the human model. Furthermore, all classes have the same skills and animations, there's no variance like ESO, so they don't have to try so hard to make the models move fluidly between each and every spell.
While there are a handful of shared skills. All the unique actions in FFXIV have different animations. Each class leading job has it's own individual weapon with vastly differing movements and skill animations. Honestly not really sure what your talking about.subtlezeroub17_ESO wrote: »Gameplay:
FFxiv has superior group play but poor pvp. Honestly, ZoS could learn something from them. However, once again, fixed classes with very little variation leads to easy balancing and thus more interesting mechanics employed.
See my previous comments on class/job variations in FFXIV.
FFXIV PVP is lacking, but was not a main feature, or even present at launch. Frankly PVP in both games is lackluster because neither are set up to best support PVP.subtlezeroub17_ESO wrote: »Class design:
Honestly, you can't compare the two because they are on opposite spectrums. Actually, I think WoW had the perfect model. Classes in general were uniform but they gave you plenty of options to fine tune your class to your liking with all viable options thus creating diversity within the bounds of the class. Furthermore, FFXIV has a really bad issue where every class is a chore to play until around lvl40. If I weren't so damn stubborn, I would have never gotten my summoner to cap since until HS, the class is boring and mind numbing.
Depends on the class, but most open up fully at 30 when jobs kick in. Some however as early as 18. FFXIV's main focus is endgame. As such to the level cap continues to raise, and new jobs started at 30 in Heavensward and 50 in Stormblood.subtlezeroub17_ESO wrote: »Quests:
I think ESO wins. FFxiv quests were boring and the voice acting really puts you into the immersing world.the problem with FFxiv is that most of the quests are boring fetch or kill quests. Matter fact, it's well known that the interesting stuff doesn't start until heavensward. I don't think it's acceptable for a whoe 50 levels to be so bad.
There are several instances fights and dungeons in the MSQs and class/job quests. As well as puzzle and CS based quests on the side. Not saying there aren't kill and fetch quests. However that's rather part and parcel for most RPGs. Side quests are often minimal filler. It's very much a matter of taste. FFXIV is distinctly Japanese, but it's by a Japanese based company.subtlezeroub17_ESO wrote: »Music:
FFXIV wins here but then FF was always well known for their really fantastic music.
ESO choose to focus more on voice acting. Both approaches have merit. SE also has a rather storied history with musical scores.
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Agalloch✭✭✭✭✭ESOUntil the launch of Ashes of Creation , ESO is the best. After that we will see.0
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✭✭✭✭✭ESOMLGProPlayer wrote: »FFXIV is a traditional "stand in one spot and face roll" MMO with tab targetting and global cooldowns. It's a joke to even compare the two.
I don't know how some people stay awake playing that crap.
Stand in one place? No, there's AOEs to dodge and mechanics to be done. Seems like your bias begets misinformation and confusion.
FFXIV's GCD is 2.5s at base, which can lowered besides there being off GCD skills. However the main purpose of the GCD is to support animations which are longer and more flashy, often with multiple movements.
Preferences are one thing, but try to at least present honesty representation.
It's one of the most boring combat systems out there. ESO, GW2, BDO, etc. are "dynamic" combat systems that demand constant attention and movement. FFXIV does not fall into that category.1 -
MLGProPlayer✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭ESOfrateanu.luiseb17_ESO wrote: »Until the launch of Ashes of Creation , ESO is the best. After that we will see.
Ashes of Creation is going to flop, I can put money on that.
1. They need kickstarter to finance the game's development
2. They don't have a publisher backing them (meaning the game is dead out of the water if the box sales/sub money can't fund new development)
3. It's a sandbox where the player will create their own content (meaning the devs are going to take a "hands off approach"); I know they're doing this to save on development costs (they don't have to make new content this way), but people are going to get bored of the game's simplistic formula quickly
4. It's 2017, and they went with a tab targetting combat systemEdited by MLGProPlayer on June 29, 2017 6:41AM0 -
snakester320✭✭✭✭FFXIV
Whatever d.ckhead defend your overpriced crap all you want... keep paying like a good little white knight should !!snakester320 wrote: »
Have a cry while you blow stupid money on a greedy company and get bugger back for it but all the power to you lmfao!snakester320 wrote: »I picked ffxiv for many reasons while I think eso is a slightly better game graphically and combat it FAILS on so many lvls that ffxiv exceeds in that there's really no comparison no scam crates decent regular content no cut up to peices expan to sell off in bits housing with functionality that doesn't cost real money to buy more dungeons better crafting combat is so so but beats eso because it has set classes not make your own and fail in dungeon runs proper auction house the list goes on.. pc and PS4 players play together..
Ohh I forgot there's a sub but for 3 monthly updates with content that nails elder scrolls into the ground only reason ppl play elder scrolls is ZOS is scamming them off the back of skyrim which was a awesome game otherwise it would be dead by now!!
Ah got it now, this was not a real poll, but in fact is another I hate ESO post. Ummmmm OK, have fun out there.
Ppl like you are the ones who defend ZOS and the bs method but cry the loudest when the prices get more and more expensive and then stupidly ask WHY?
Your rant is a non sequitur phrased in a manner that is grammatically jarring and, quite frankly, it's biggest sin is that it is dull. Perhaps if you tried again you might make more sense next time. It's worth a shot.
Edited by snakester320 on June 29, 2017 7:09AM0 -
dday3six✭✭✭✭✭
✭FFXIVMLGProPlayer wrote: »MLGProPlayer wrote: »FFXIV is a traditional "stand in one spot and face roll" MMO with tab targetting and global cooldowns. It's a joke to even compare the two.
I don't know how some people stay awake playing that crap.
Stand in one place? No, there's AOEs to dodge and mechanics to be done. Seems like your bias begets misinformation and confusion.
FFXIV's GCD is 2.5s at base, which can lowered besides there being off GCD skills. However the main purpose of the GCD is to support animations which are longer and more flashy, often with multiple movements.
Preferences are one thing, but try to at least present honesty representation.
It's one of the most boring combat systems out there. ESO, GW2, BDO, etc. are "dynamic" combat systems that demand constant attention and movement. FFXIV does not fall into that category.
Would seem you're not at all familiar with FFXIV. However since it's in your opinion so boring that's to be expected. It would be rude onto ZOS to post FFXIV videos here, but look them up and you'll find many fights require a great deal of movement for mechanics. Stack and burn phases are rarely overlong.
Also if you're constantly moving in ESO PVE group content. You're doing so at a loss of efficiency. A tank dragging the boss around continually rather than standing it in ground based AOEs for example.
Opinions are one thing, but maybe try a bit harder to not let your biases warp reality.Edited by dday3six on June 29, 2017 7:11AM0 -
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✭ESOIt's like asking a guy that eats McDonalds in McDonalds whether he maybe prefers Burger King or not.
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DivinityDay✭✭✭OtherBlack Desert@AmariaNaria's chars:
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Divinity Day Sorc DPS - AD
Amaria Day DK TANK - AD WW
Talia Shade NB BOW/DW - AD WW
Amaria Naria NB 2H/DW - AD WW
Kali Day Magplar - AD VAMP
Dekaria Bombblade AD0 -
dday3six✭✭✭✭✭
✭FFXIVPeekachu99 wrote: »At one point, the main story quest in Stormblood has you (God-killer, world-changer) picking up TURDS. This is not a joke and it's taken seriously. And, yes, same grind they've had for three years. At least ESO encourages you to farm different stuff, for fun builds, PVP, whatever. There's no different in FFXIV. Same skills, same gear at top end. Click on any end game toon and everyone wears the same gear, just glamored. Absolutely no diversity aside from the surface aesthetics.
The music can be epic, though, and the sheer amount and quality of social tools shames ESO and many other online games. Visuals have their moments too. But that's it, I've shelved SB now after the turd-quest.
P.S. Obviously my stance has changed since the vote lol
I remembered this post when I got to this quest. To give some context. The player is collecting animal waste to use as fuel for fires. This is a common practice when other welling burning materials, such as wood, are not readily available.
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✭✭FFXIVIf SqEnix would ever release FFXIV on the Xbox, I'd move myself and my wife to FF in a heartbeat...
But, since they're obviously not swayed by the additional revenue they'd rake in with an Xbox release... ESO it is...
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Lord_Kreegan✭✭✭✭✭I played FFXIV for a while and found it not only boring, but also haphazardly constructed with some of the worst crafting, animation, and quests I've ever seen in any MMORPG.
You can't mail items, whether gear or materials, between your own characters. You can't "feed" your own crafting habits because those crafting skills that are associated with one another "just happen" to be obtained in other cities (starting locations) and it's not easy to get to them. There is no orderly transition of quests by character level.
It's just stupid.
Granted, the originally released game was a major abortion, but the repair job still smacks of stupidity. Instead of being re-released, they should have rebated all purchases and started over from scratch.
It's a mess.
All of that is a criticism of FFXIV, not an endorsement of ESO. ESO needs significant changes, too, but they won't happen until ZOS gets rid of Matt Firor. He's insistent on his DAoC-II model fro ESO. It doesn't work. It didn't work for DAoC in anything other than his purely egotistical mind. World Vs. World Vs. World didn't work there and it works even worse in Cyrodil.1 -
Illuzion0216✭✭FFXIV definitely handsdown for me. I played gw2 and eso and can never go back to these 2 after getting into ffxiv. Sure right now ffxiv has issues but tell me which mmo is free of issues? The 2.5gcd will look slow at first but past Heavensward everything changes.0
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There are people here (not many, I imagine) who don't want ESO to introduce any more classes. LOL. I just don't get it. They want to limit the game on purpose just because they hate change, I guess.been playing eso for 2 years almost 3 now. Master crafter, have the skin, farmed maelstrom. Nothing much to do anymore but doing daily writs and pvp. Dungeons is just useless now since I already have all the monster sets in the right trait with left over keys. Now logging in feels like a chore. And when I pvp I'm always saying to myself what's the point? I'm not having fun like I used to when I was a scrub. Giving ff 14 in some random day was the best decision ever. The game have so much to offer than what eso can do. So many more classes. So much more to do in the game. Very good dungeon finder system. While you que for a dungeon you can go do other things while waiting cause they actually tell you what number you are in the waiting list. So much more to explain but that's not the topic here. I'm still a sub for eso cause I love to support eso hoping for better future content. But for now, I'm enjoying ff 14 a lot more.
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Jeremy✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭ESOKhajiitLion wrote: »Which do you think is better? Mine is FFXIV.
Final Fantasy XIV is fun in small doses. But the game itself is shallow and repetitive.
The world of ESO is fun to explore (the world on FFXIV is not). In fact - the story line and questing generally are so boring on that game many players are simply buying items from the store that allow them skip everything
The combat is also very generic on FFXIV and essentially the same for every player. There is a lot more variation between builds on ESO - which makes the gameplay more interesting over all.
Final Fantasy 11 is even superior to XIV if you ask me.Edited by Jeremy on July 24, 2017 6:53AM0
