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Should sorc pets have a time limit

  • ArchMikem
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    Yes
    It would hurt the botters significantly.
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  • MudcrabSammich
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    No
    I've only been playing for about a month, so I don't really know about bots and all that everyone is talking about. I voted no because I have a secondary sorcerer character and I must say, I was pleasantly surprised to find my "pet" didn't disappear after a fight or fade out over time. I do not like, however, having to have it in both weapon skill bars to keep it up. I voted no because thinking about it, there are other skills that give constant benefits, like Magelight (i think its called) that give constant benefit. There must be others similar to this. Also, why take away something that's so much fun? I've even caught myself talking to my little scamp on occasion.
  • Bobby_V_Rockit
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    Yes
    Yes, sorc pet = proc set... think about it...
  • Dymence
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    Blanco wrote: »
    Make them last 60 seconds. That way you dont have to double bar it anymore.

    LOL. Pet builds would die over night. Nice suggestion...

    Quite the contrary.
  • Navoric_Envaldreth
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    Yes
    By definition, even when not mentioned... A duration means it only has to be on only 1 bar. Thus, yes. A 2-3 min duration would work fine and the extra slots a nice addition
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  • asa67dragoneb17_ESO
    Yes
    I will scream yes to all sorc nerf threads....soo YEEEEES!!!

    And if speaking a bit more srsly. Just make like 30s - 60s duration or even less, and remove bar restriction, so sorc could switch bar without ped dying automatically.
  • newtinmpls
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    No
    Not jus no, but $#%#&%@%^ no!
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  • Morgul667
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    No
    They take too much slot already
  • Lord_Eomer
    Lord_Eomer
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    No
    What was this for?

    Stupid poll
  • Navoric_Envaldreth
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    Yes
    Morgul667 wrote: »
    They take too much slot already

    And they will take less if its a timed skill -_-
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  • Tyrion87
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    No
    What even is this poll? Hahaha I'm not even sure whether you're serious or not.

    If not, good troll.

    If yes, then you just feed all these grumblers crying out "nerf sorcs" or trying to justify that hurting people playing sorcs in the name of "dealing with the bots" is a good and reasonable idea.

    The truth is that pets already die a lot in certain boss fights (or have to be unslotted due to many reasons), they have a cast time and have to be slotted on both bars. Implementing your idea would cause a massive exodus of petsorcs.
  • ccfeeling
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    No
    Dont even try to destroy the cored class in the game
    Never!
  • WuffyCerulei
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    No
    Having them as toggles is a trade off. Instead of summoning one that does only simple attacks for so long, like the Nightblade shades, they can have both the simple attack and special ability. However, they need to be double-slotted to make up for that.
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  • idk
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    No
    Because they take up two slots each they should not have a time limit.
  • Merlin13KAGL
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    No
    They already do. It's called a health bar.
    I'm just thinking of ways zos could stop bots
    Because you can't bot without pets? Some templars, DK's, and NB's would like a word...

    Edited by Merlin13KAGL on July 7, 2017 12:39PM
    Just because you don't like the way something is doesn't necessarily make it wrong...

    Earn it.

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  • Navoric_Envaldreth
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    Yes
    Why do people see this as nerf.. This frees up slots
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  • Betsararie
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    No
    Timeraider wrote: »
    Why do people see this as nerf.. This frees up slots

    how long do you propose it to stay out for? 1 minute? That is entirely ridiculous.

    Recasting it every minute would make the pet not worth having.

    It should take up 2 slots. It's balanced that way. The pet takes aggro, and then can either dps or heal. That is worth 2 slots if there is no time limit. The build is structured around the pet anyway.

    I have been using this build for months now, and there are downsides but overall it provides outstanding dps and is very enjoyable to play.

    Please don't take more fun out of this game, ZOS.
  • Elsonso
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    No
    ArchMikem wrote: »
    It would hurt the botters significantly.

    Not really. They would probably be the last impacted by this. The software they use can summon them every X seconds like clockwork. Humans, on the other hand, will forget, or fail to notice they are gone.
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  • Vercingetorix
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    Yes
    ...
    Edited by Vercingetorix on July 7, 2017 12:54PM
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  • Navoric_Envaldreth
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    Yes
    Blanco wrote: »
    Timeraider wrote: »
    Why do people see this as nerf.. This frees up slots

    how long do you propose it to stay out for? 1 minute? That is entirely ridiculous.

    Recasting it every minute would make the pet not worth having.

    It should take up 2 slots. It's balanced that way. The pet takes aggro, and then can either dps or heal. That is worth 2 slots if there is no time limit. The build is structured around the pet anyway.

    I have been using this build for months now, and there are downsides but overall it provides outstanding dps and is very enjoyable to play.

    Please don't take more fun out of this game, ZOS.

    Would say 5 mins but sure, guess pet builds in games in general just prefer the laid back combat. Matter of taste
    I myself like the being able to have 3 full skillbars to use as sorc ;)
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  • Betsararie
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    No
    Timeraider wrote: »
    Blanco wrote: »
    Timeraider wrote: »
    Why do people see this as nerf.. This frees up slots

    how long do you propose it to stay out for? 1 minute? That is entirely ridiculous.

    Recasting it every minute would make the pet not worth having.

    It should take up 2 slots. It's balanced that way. The pet takes aggro, and then can either dps or heal. That is worth 2 slots if there is no time limit. The build is structured around the pet anyway.

    I have been using this build for months now, and there are downsides but overall it provides outstanding dps and is very enjoyable to play.

    Please don't take more fun out of this game, ZOS.

    Would say 5 mins but sure, guess pet builds in games in general just prefer the laid back combat. Matter of taste
    I myself like the being able to have 3 full skillbars to use as sorc ;)

    I stopped using overload a long time ago. Tbh, I never liked it.

    Destro ulti / meteor is far better.

    As for the pet build being laid back, I'd have to respectfully disagree.

    With the rate that the pet dies, I find it stressful at times to both have to check if it's still alive, and to respawn it.
  • Rikkof
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    No
    I dont kn ow about sorc pet, but i know that OP should be instantly limited to post on forums, he is toos tupid for that XD
  • Rikkof
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    No
    Nestor wrote: »
    They already take up 4 slots.

    feeding the troll....good on u
    who on God's name made u ambassador when u cant even distinguish between a troll trying to trigger the forum and a honest post....
  • alainjbrennanb16_ESO
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    Yes
    i would say yes not really to do with pvp but more to do with trails, the pets can take tuant from ie: axes in aa or cause chain lighting
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  • Mettaricana
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    Biro123 wrote: »
    Yes please, they wouldn't be a toggle anymore, so won't need 2 slots then!

    This guy gets it rather see like a few min time limit or something
  • Biro123
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    Yes
    hmm.. I just noticed (after misreading the title) that sorc pets is an anagram of proc sets. Whaddya know!

    *Edit - just realised I'm not the only one who spotted that.
    Edited by Biro123 on July 7, 2017 1:57PM
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  • idk
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    No
    Timeraider wrote: »
    Blanco wrote: »
    Timeraider wrote: »
    Why do people see this as nerf.. This frees up slots

    how long do you propose it to stay out for? 1 minute? That is entirely ridiculous.

    Recasting it every minute would make the pet not worth having.

    It should take up 2 slots. It's balanced that way. The pet takes aggro, and then can either dps or heal. That is worth 2 slots if there is no time limit. The build is structured around the pet anyway.

    I have been using this build for months now, and there are downsides but overall it provides outstanding dps and is very enjoyable to play.

    Please don't take more fun out of this game, ZOS.

    Would say 5 mins but sure, guess pet builds in games in general just prefer the laid back combat. Matter of taste
    I myself like the being able to have 3 full skillbars to use as sorc ;)

    Even at 5 minutes double bar will still be required. Prob 20-25 seconds total summons time would be what is required to remove double bar requirement.

    It also means the pet taking agro become pointless since any agro they had during that 20 seconds would transfer to the Sorc when the pet timed out.
  • Benn G x
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    I'm all for it aslong as I don't have to double bar it
  • Asardes
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    No
    Sorcerers are unique in the sense pets are non-ultimate toggle skills and they can be controlled to some degree. We should preserve that unique aspect. Warden has the bear but that's an ultimate and needs to be double slotted as well.
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