A crazy idea?
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Just mulling around a potential pair of sets.
For the sake of argument assume a leather and a silks version of each exist.
For the sake of argument assume they are craftable not drops.
@pc bonus adds max health
3pc bonus adds max stamina
4 pc bonus adds max magica
5pc bonus - leather set: When you use any ability that costs magica, for the next 10s any more abilities that normally costs magica and scales off max magica, spelldamage or both will cost stamina (same cost) and scale off max stamina or weapon damage or both. 5 s cooldown after the 10s elapses.
5pc bonus - silk set: When you use any ability that costs stamina, for the next 10s any more abilities that normally costs stamina and scales off max stamina, wpndamage or both will cost magica(same cost) and scale off max magica or spell damage or both. 5 s cooldown after the 10s elapses.
Edited by STEVIL on July 5, 2017 4:27AM For the sake of argument assume a leather and a silks version of each exist.
For the sake of argument assume they are craftable not drops.
@pc bonus adds max health
3pc bonus adds max stamina
4 pc bonus adds max magica
5pc bonus - leather set: When you use any ability that costs magica, for the next 10s any more abilities that normally costs magica and scales off max magica, spelldamage or both will cost stamina (same cost) and scale off max stamina or weapon damage or both. 5 s cooldown after the 10s elapses.
5pc bonus - silk set: When you use any ability that costs stamina, for the next 10s any more abilities that normally costs stamina and scales off max stamina, wpndamage or both will cost magica(same cost) and scale off max magica or spell damage or both. 5 s cooldown after the 10s elapses.
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A crazy idea? 23 votes
Yeah, it is crazy, but i like it!
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5 votes
This idea has potential but...
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Actually, it is crazy and i don't like it
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theher0not✭✭✭✭✭Yeah, it is crazy, but i like it!I missclicked, I wanted to vote for "this idea has potential, but..."
I think this is a good idea, but with how the game works right now (abillities scaling of a resource) it won't be viable.
All it would do in the current state is to allow mag builds to use stamina skills or stam builds to use magicka, which I don't see being worth sloting 5 pieces for0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Yeah, it is crazy, but i like it!If game was less about damage, but I shall support you crazy cat!Edited by Tasear on July 5, 2017 1:33PM0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Yeah, it is crazy, but i like it!Stamina have such an advantage on PvP for CC breaking that i think something needs to change, maybe this
Or as i said before some Cc's like fear say should break off Magika not stamina. Bring some balance.
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✭✭✭Probably true.
I mean stamplars with full power heals and stamsorcs with full power shields likely not something one could get enough out of to offset loss of say 300 wpn dam.
Oh well.
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✭✭This idea has potential but...Seems unbalanced. Mag build + that + pelenials and you''ve got mages using stamina morphs with a 55K resource pool and 2500+ spell damage. Hello SNIPE + CFRAGS.
Not to mention it'll heavily favor magicka users, since while there are no abilities that scale with max stamina, there are abilities that scale with max magicka (shields).
It's an interesting idea (and seems familiar to the undaunted infiltraitor), but the potential cheeseEdited by Avran_Sylt on July 5, 2017 1:36PM0 -
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✭✭✭✭This idea has potential but...I think it'd have to be played around with to make the durations work, but it's one of the more clever "hybrid" set suggestions.
Silk set would interact insanely favorably with unchained CP passive+shuffle in CP environments.
Leather set would be easy to activate via buffs that have a scaling component. Stamplars could cast extended ritual, then BoL, for instance. Sorc, cast streak followed by stamina mines+curseThrice Empress, Forever Scrub0 -
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✭✭✭Avran_Sylt wrote: »Seems unbalanced. Mag build + that + pelenials and you''ve got mages using stamina morphs with a 55K resource pool and 2500+ spell damage. Hello SNIPE + CFRAGS.
Not to mention it'll heavily favor magicka users, since while there are no abilities that scale with max stamina, there are abilities that scale with max magicka (shields).
It's an interesting idea (and seems familiar to the undaunted infiltraitor), but the potential cheese
Isn't pelinals crafted so you could not really get pelinals plus this unless you did some odd no-monster build.
Also can you get near 55k resource pool with pelinals and this? Neither are like stacked on max mag sets, right?
Finally is snipe plus frags worse that frags and frags?Edited by STEVIL on July 5, 2017 1:47PMProudly skooma free while talks-when-drunk is in mandatory public housing.
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Dracindo✭✭✭✭✭Actually, it is crazy and i don't like itI don't think you want certain builds to have certain skills.
For example: Imagine a stamblade using degeneration, which normally deals x magic dmg over 12 seconds, restoring health and some more health over 6 seconds, grants major sorcery, and light/heavy attacks have 15% chance to heal them for 100% of the damage caused.
In this build, that would mean this skill would deal great physical damage, probably heals alot as well, and with a stamblades crit chance, that 15% chance to heal for a 100% of the damage inflicted would give them excellent health sustain.
... And major sorcery, which is useless in this case.
I'm not a good theorycrafter, but I'm pretty sure there are skills that would make certain builds too powerfull. Then again, you risk a set for this set, and this set looks like it wasn't meant for tanks, who regularly don't mind having health stamina and magicka increased...
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✭Actually, it is crazy and i don't like itWe already has a tons(!) of not-usable sets.
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PS4_ZeColmeia✭✭✭✭✭You can already do this with Pelinal and some sets that synergize well with it. You can slightly do it with shackle breaker/ assassins guile but imho with Dunmer only.PSN: ***___Chan (3 _s)
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✭✭✭PS4_ZeColmeia wrote: »You can already do this with Pelinal and some sets that synergize well with it. You can slightly do it with shackle breaker/ assassins guile but imho with Dunmer only.
really?
which sets/combos would have a stamsorc be able to run empowered ward and have it scaled off stamina instead of magica?
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