[New player] I feel like I'm playing the wrong class

Mazra · July 2017

Relatively new to the game, so I'm hoping someone here can shed some light on this.

At the moment, everywhere I go in this game (in Vvardenfell, at least), people want me to break in and steal something, assassinate someone, or skulk about in the shadows. From what I've gathered, later content also includes the Thieves Guild and Dark Brotherhood. I get the feeling that I should have rolled with a dual-wielding Nightblade to fit the "canon" of the game's story. My two-handed Orc in clanky armor, with a giant bear companion (and a bear cub, because bear power) just feels terribly out of place.

Does the content get more... versatile later on? Or does it continue the trend of "be sneaky, be stabby, take loots without permission" that the opening quests in Vvardenfell force down your throat?

Dracindo · July 2017

Honestly, in all the faction zones, I hardly feel like there are any quests that forces you to commit a crime. There are quests, just not alot.
You're not playing the wrong class, just the wrong zone.

Magdalina · July 2017

It's more that Vvardenfell is where they are trying to make content more "versatile" - more (4 year old kid level>.<) puzzles, more sneaking, better rewards etc. Like everywhere else with the exception of maybe literally 3 quests in all 16+ zones all the quests are super straightforward - go there, kill X and bring me back Y basically. Tieves' guild dlc being the obvious exception but there it makes sense.

Keep in mind that for most of Vvardenfell quests you can safely disregard the sneaky part and just kill everything in your way

Iselin · July 2017

You're getting the wrong impression because they added those sneaking trespassing quests to Vvardenfell. That was previously just a feature of Thieve's Guild or Dark Brotherhood content.

None of the other world zones have those kinds of quests.

Vvardenfell is a great zone but it's actually not particularly good for new players just starting out.

My advise to anyone who asks me is finish the tutorial and immediately use the first wayshrine you see to go to the starting city for your alliance. Follow the quest to go see the benefactor and follow the quests and starter zone that leads you to.

Come back to Vvardenfell later on when you're higher level, have enough money to pay the bounties you'll surely get with those quests and have a better feel for the game.

You won't see any of those sneak around quests anywhere until you come back.

SydneyGrey · July 2017

An Orc surrounded by bears sounds epic.

Arundo · July 2017

Or you can just *** the stealth and kill everything in sight like I do (DK Tank with a monkey not even trying to bother sneaking etc)

MCBIZZLE300 · July 2017

Mazra wrote: »

Relatively new to the game, so I'm hoping someone here can shed some light on this.

At the moment, everywhere I go in this game (in Vvardenfell, at least), people want me to break in and steal something, assassinate someone, or skulk about in the shadows. From what I've gathered, later content also includes the Thieves Guild and Dark Brotherhood. I get the feeling that I should have rolled with a dual-wielding Nightblade to fit the "canon" of the game's story. My two-handed Orc in clanky armor, with a giant bear companion (and a bear cub, because bear power) just feels terribly out of place.

Does the content get more... versatile later on? Or does it continue the trend of "be sneaky, be stabby, take loots without permission" that the opening quests in Vvardenfell force down your throat?

My best advice is to start leveling a magic sorcerer now, when you start progressing through the game you'l quickly realise no one actually does quests. I learnt this the hard way having wasted my time with a useless stamblade. High elf magicka sorcerer. Get on it!

Glamdring · July 2017

mcb123 wrote: »

Mazra wrote: »

Relatively new to the game, so I'm hoping someone here can shed some light on this.

At the moment, everywhere I go in this game (in Vvardenfell, at least), people want me to break in and steal something, assassinate someone, or skulk about in the shadows. From what I've gathered, later content also includes the Thieves Guild and Dark Brotherhood. I get the feeling that I should have rolled with a dual-wielding Nightblade to fit the "canon" of the game's story. My two-handed Orc in clanky armor, with a giant bear companion (and a bear cub, because bear power) just feels terribly out of place.

Does the content get more... versatile later on? Or does it continue the trend of "be sneaky, be stabby, take loots without permission" that the opening quests in Vvardenfell force down your throat?

My best advice is to start leveling a magic sorcerer now, when you start progressing through the game you'l quickly realise no one actually does quests. I learnt this the hard way having wasted my time with a useless stamblade. High elf magicka sorcerer. Get on it!

Lvl a stamnb and u get both of two worlds u can use both melee/range and magic. i started as a sorc and after she was i think lvl 10 i started a nb and since then never turned back.

Mazra · July 2017

Thanks for the replies.

I was a bit confused by the start of the game, I'll admit. The let's plays I found on YouTube had you start off in some Daedric place with ghouls, and demons, and Jennifer Hale (

). Then I load up the game and I'm presented with Vvardenfell (henceforth referred to as The Land of Trespassing). Thought I missed something at first.

I get the feeling I'm nearing the end of the Vvardenf-- err, The Land of Trespassing chain, so I'll tough it out until I can get to the starting city for my alliance. Hopefully I'll run into Jennifer Hale there.

As for going Sorcerer, or magicka in general, I don't really see myself in that role. I'm an Orc. I wield a big hammer and ride around on a bear. I could probably play this game without picking a class, but the bear thing sold me on the Warden. I'm just in it for the story, I don't care about leveling as fast as possible.

newtinmpls · July 2017

SydneyGrey wrote: »

An Orc surrounded by bears sounds epic.

Really this needs it's own thread.

ScytheNL · July 2017

mcb123 wrote: »

Mazra wrote: »

Relatively new to the game, so I'm hoping someone here can shed some light on this.

At the moment, everywhere I go in this game (in Vvardenfell, at least), people want me to break in and steal something, assassinate someone, or skulk about in the shadows. From what I've gathered, later content also includes the Thieves Guild and Dark Brotherhood. I get the feeling that I should have rolled with a dual-wielding Nightblade to fit the "canon" of the game's story. My two-handed Orc in clanky armor, with a giant bear companion (and a bear cub, because bear power) just feels terribly out of place.

Does the content get more... versatile later on? Or does it continue the trend of "be sneaky, be stabby, take loots without permission" that the opening quests in Vvardenfell force down your throat?

My best advice is to start leveling a magic sorcerer now, when you start progressing through the game you'l quickly realise no one actually does quests. I learnt this the hard way having wasted my time with a useless stamblade. High elf magicka sorcerer. Get on it!

Wait wut? Not only do I have a Stamblade, I do quests as well

I started as DC, finished it, did Cadwell's Silver on AD, and finished THAT, now I just started doing teh Cadwell's Gold EP questline and I WILL finish that as well

Argah · July 2017

Not played morrowwind but without there is literally one quest in base game I can remember needing to sneak, well not need it was a choice in coldharbour, other than that nothing comes to mind.

klowdy1 · July 2017

Mazra wrote: »

Thanks for the replies.

I was a bit confused by the start of the game, I'll admit. The let's plays I found on YouTube had you start off in some Daedric place with ghouls, and demons, and Jennifer Hale ( ). Then I load up the game and I'm presented with Vvardenfell (henceforth referred to as The Land of Trespassing). Thought I missed something at first.

That is the new starting zone since Morrowind, but by no means do you have to stay there. I took my new sorc to his original starting zone immediately in order to save Morrowind for later. The oblivion zone is gone, but you can still port to the starting islands, just like skipping the tutorial.

One thing I've noticed, you only get to level 2 with the new starting zone, it used to be 3 (1 ability from each class tree).

netch_a_sketch · July 2017

Since you're new, just make some characters and try out all the classes : ) See which playstyle suits you better.

AKSb16_ESO2 · July 2017

klowdy1 wrote: »

The oblivion zone is gone,

No it's not.

ScytheNL · July 2017

AKSb16_ESO2 wrote: »

klowdy1 wrote: »

The oblivion zone is gone,

No it's not.

Coldharbour? I was there last night.

oaflet · July 2017

mcb123 wrote: »

My best advice is to start leveling a magic sorcerer now, when you start progressing through the game you'l quickly realise no one actually does quests. I learnt this the hard way having wasted my time with a useless stamblade. High elf magicka sorcerer. Get on it!

That's a bit of an extreme statement... most people I know who play, including myself, primarily do quests and are in it for the story. To each their own.

OP, as others have said, I do think you'll be happy with the quest content in general, especially if that's one of your main reasons for being here. Even as a bear-riding, clanky-armored Orc

There are quests to be found which require "Go kill x person", but the reasoning and story are there, and these are enemy NPCs, bandits, etc. Outside of Brotherhood and Thieves quests, there really is very little that feels like sneaking, and no killing that feels random.

AlnilamE · July 2017

SydneyGrey wrote: »

An Orc surrounded by bears sounds epic.

It does!

OP, there's no way you can go wrong with this. Though you may want to add a bear mount eventually.

KingYogi415 · July 2017

Every new player thinks a stamblade will be fun.

But without vigor (100k) AP or rally (level 38 2 hand) stamblades are trash compared to every other spec.

I played a stamblade to vet 3 without these healz, some people can handle hard mode.

Cheers!

Mazra · July 2017

AlnilamE wrote: »

OP, there's no way you can go wrong with this. Though you may want to add a bear mount eventually.

The bear mount is what originally caught my attention!

I swapped out my hammer for a bow, because it fits the sneaky theme more. Will switch back once I'm done sneaking everywhere.

zaria · July 2017

Dracindo wrote: »

Honestly, in all the faction zones, I hardly feel like there are any quests that forces you to commit a crime. There are quests, just not alot.
You're not playing the wrong class, just the wrong zone.

Yes Morrowind have an few quests involving entering illegal areas. Not done anywhere else outside of thief guild and dark brotherhood, or if you do some freelance stealing.
Getting an bounty is no big issue however, sneak all the time and try to avoid the guards. Look for the baskets if you hide in them even if chased the attacker will loose you and you can continue.
Don't recommend killing in illegal areas if you can avoid it as it will increase the bounty a lot.
Make sure you don't carry valuable stolen items as the city guards will take them if your caught. The bounty for being seen once is just a 130 gold or something at max level.

onemoredragon · July 2017

OP, I recommend you try out Orsinium DLC later on - I don't recall if there are many "sneaking" quests or so, but it has a good story and your orc with bear companions will totally feel like home.

drakhan2002_ESO · July 2017

Mazra wrote: »

Relatively new to the game, so I'm hoping someone here can shed some light on this.

At the moment, everywhere I go in this game (in Vvardenfell, at least), people want me to break in and steal something, assassinate someone, or skulk about in the shadows. From what I've gathered, later content also includes the Thieves Guild and Dark Brotherhood. I get the feeling that I should have rolled with a dual-wielding Nightblade to fit the "canon" of the game's story. My two-handed Orc in clanky armor, with a giant bear companion (and a bear cub, because bear power) just feels terribly out of place.

Does the content get more... versatile later on? Or does it continue the trend of "be sneaky, be stabby, take loots without permission" that the opening quests in Vvardenfell force down your throat?

Remember, all this "sneaky" stuff came in after TG and DB. If you're just starting out, remember, that most of the players out in Vvardenfell have already completed those DLCs and have the passives that go along with having done them. There are good reasons for this from a character progression standpoint, but I can read the frustrations that is written between the lines.

My recommendation(s) - go back to "old zones" and level up there. That way you will naturally progress without having to do all of the stealth missions OR do the TG/DB DLCs (if owned) OR continue on your path in Vvardenfell...because you will be far ahead when you do decide to TG/DB, you'll be used to the stealth mechanics.

Tasear · July 2017

As a healer why do I kill anything that moves?

Turtles are Op though that's only time I am sneaky.

I find vandefall quests refreshing, so maybe you would feel same about other ones in different zones. So take a boat and leave to a better life.

P.S buy some food

mb10 · July 2017

lol your character sounds epic tbh

ProfessorKittyhawk · July 2017

There is a quest in Greenshade that sort of has you breaking into places to recover stolen goods. Sort of an inversion of what you'd come to expect. Also, a couple quests in Stonefalls has you stealing booze for an upstanding individual. Though there is no risk involved in those as you trigger distractions to pull those off.

SilverWF · July 2017

Mazra wrote: »

Relatively new to the game, so I'm hoping someone here can shed some light on this.

At the moment, everywhere I go in this game (in Vvardenfell, at least), people want me to break in and steal something, assassinate someone, or skulk about in the shadows. From what I've gathered, later content also includes the Thieves Guild and Dark Brotherhood. I get the feeling that I should have rolled with a dual-wielding Nightblade to fit the "canon" of the game's story. My two-handed Orc in clanky armor, with a giant bear companion (and a bear cub, because bear power) just feels terribly out of place.

Does the content get more... versatile later on? Or does it continue the trend of "be sneaky, be stabby, take loots without permission" that the opening quests in Vvardenfell force down your throat?

You are playing Warden - yes, this is definitely wrong class.

Vercingetorix · July 2017

Every class is the wrong class in Morrowind. If you choose magicka, you must use a lightning staff and only heavy attack. If you choose stamina, you must use the Vicious Ophidian set, still be unable to sustain, and die anyway due to lack of shields.

Thank you for your purchase of Morrowind.
Sincerely,

ZoS

P.S. Please buy more Crown Crates.

andreasranasen · July 2017

Hey OP, please don't listen to the kids saying to skip quests or that "no one does questing". If you rush through the game you'll end up like a pug and you won't get to know your class, your skills or your character. The game is huge, take your time and have fun with your class.

PlagueSD · July 2017

Mazra wrote: »

Relatively new to the game, so I'm hoping someone here can shed some light on this.

At the moment, everywhere I go in this game (in Vvardenfell, at least), people want me to break in and steal something, assassinate someone, or skulk about in the shadows. From what I've gathered, later content also includes the Thieves Guild and Dark Brotherhood. I get the feeling that I should have rolled with a dual-wielding Nightblade to fit the "canon" of the game's story. My two-handed Orc in clanky armor, with a giant bear companion (and a bear cub, because bear power) just feels terribly out of place.

Does the content get more... versatile later on? Or does it continue the trend of "be sneaky, be stabby, take loots without permission" that the opening quests in Vvardenfell force down your throat?

First thing...Put the bear away if you're in an area that requires stealth (you can click the buff on the bottom of your character page to dismiss him). That thing will get you into more trouble than anything. Second, if you're a stam warden, you should be in leather armor. There's a passive skill in the medium armor tree (improved sneak) that will drastically reduce your detection radius. I had no issues sneaking around with my orc warden in Morrowind to do those quests. Wasn't as easy as my wood elf nightblade, but I do have a lot of practice with him as I've completed both Thieves Guild and Dark Brotherhood quest tracks with him.

Mazra · July 2017

Thanks for the suggestions!

I'm in mostly leather armor now, with a light piece and a heavy piece for skill-ups while leveling. I found a costume that still makes my Orc look like he's wearing clanky armor, which is awesome.

I also noticed that the detection range seems to be tied to me and not my companions, so the bear isn't an issue unless I get spotted, but being spotted usually ends with me whipping out my mace and killing everyone, anyway. Got to level 15, so now I can do sneaky things with my bow and bring the mace to the face, too. Love it!

I've also read up on the "standard" (vanilla?) game, which does indeed contain less sneaking and whatnot, so that'll be cool. Best of all, I found out that you can get to the Daedra place with Jennifer Hale once you get to your faction's starting area, so I'll definitely be do that! I want that big, beautiful lady - and her axe - in my life. God, Nord half-giants...