Questions for light armor tanking warden

paul_j · July 2017

So I was planning on making a light armor warden tank that uses ice staff front bar and resto back.

1. What sets are you guys using?
I'm planning on using seducer, necro, and one piece with either health or resists like pirate or chudan.

2. Does the sturdy trait work when using ice staves. Does it reduce the cost of magicka when blocking?

3. What food or drink would you use?
i was thinking either Tri stat or bi stat mag regen.

Just bored of heavy armor and sword and board tanking so trying something off the wall. Really just wanted to start a thread where people could brainstorm or ask questions in.

paul_j · July 2017

No one tried light armor tanking?

paulsimonps · July 2017

Light armor tanking is not that often used, the bonuses are not in favor of tanking, except for the regen and cost reduction. With that said, yes sturdy works with Ice staff, your lowest possible block cost will be higher than that of a stamina user but its doable. For food I would get Tri food, normally I would recommend Max HP, Mag regen drink but your regen will be off if you block with a Ice Staff.

You will be lacking in resistance tanking like this so Pirate skeleton would not be a bad idea for Monster helmet, Magicka Furnace and Syrabanes grip might be sets you might want to look into since they give magicka back, that and warlock. I would swap out Furnace and syrabane depending on the situation, or use both at all times. Those types of things would be my suggestion, and heavy attack a lot.

Asardes · July 2017

In order to tank in LA you need to stack shields as you health will be very low. Any set that gives you magicka sustain bonuses is good. It's for sure not viable for SotH dungeons on veteran, and only marginal for IC ones but should work for the base game vet ones. One combo I would suggest is. 5 Armor of the Seducer (1 light 1 medium 1 heavy weapon & shield) 5 Sanctuary (jewelry and 2 light body pieces) and Engine Guardian or Sentinel of Rakugamz 2 light or 1 light 1 medium if you use a light piece instead of medium on Seducers. With this setting you can also heal and support at the same time. But as I said it's not effective for any content.

paul_j · July 2017

Have any of you tried light armor master?

eso_nya · July 2017

A very nice combo is:
5 Armor Master, /w Harness Magicka + 2 infernal Guardian.
Base Armorrating + Armor Master + Major & Minor Resolve/Ward + defending weapon/reinforced shield bring u to ~28k armorrating, if u put bloodspawn on top of it u will be (far) above armorcap.

For weapons i used s&b and lightningstaff.
Trifood, all attributes in Max Magicka.
For me blocking from magicka pool and stopping magicka regen seems as to much of a disadvantage to make a frosty worth it. (Additional: Taunting on a 2 sec channel vs inner rage, aoedmg vs single target dmg + a shield that most likely will get u killed for clipdmg from heavy attacks, and slow vs concussion on wall of elements.)

If u have trouble sustaining stamina, go for sentinel of rakakumablabla instead of infernal guardian.
For a secondary set, pick 3/4 Seducer and 3 Willpower (s&b + 3 armors armormaster, u only need it on one bar), optionally u can go with 5 seducer on offbar when dropping the monsterset.
Another pick would be 5 necro for stronger shields, or 5 winterporn, or 5 desert rose.

Edit: You might be better off with necro and seducer. If u can keep your shields up at all times, u can completely ignore armorrating. Shields always take the same dmg. The most dangerous thing there is, if u cant refresh them fast enough. If u e.g. take a 10k hit have only 1k of shield left, the 9k unabsorbed dmg will directly hit your health unmitigated.

Asardes · July 2017

If you do pick armor master there are a few considerations:
- you only benefit from the HP bonus if you slot harness on both bars
- even if you double slot it you still lose the resistance bonus bar swapping and it only lasts for 10s anyway
- if you perma-shield your resistance matters less
- you still need to use a sustain set, but not a crafted one. Lich or Alteration mastery are good options

paul_j · July 2017

So armor rating doesn't count towards a stronger shield?

paul_j · July 2017

Also with a strong shield would blocking even matter?

paul_j · July 2017

Does minor protection buff get the mitigation added to your shield?

Asardes · July 2017

No, since shields scale off your maximum magicka stat only. Some scale off your health too but you will need to stack loads to reach the same tooltip. Not sure if warden has one. In any case only harness will trigger armor master buff since it's an armor skill.

paulsimonps · July 2017

paul_j wrote: »

Does minor protection buff get the mitigation added to your shield?

Read this:
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/279426/damage-mitigation-explanation-updated-for-morrowind-new-calculator/p1

Will tell you what will and what will not give you extra protection over your damage shields.