Sometimes it is playable (Less than 350 ping) most of the time it's not. I can do my PVE stuff find when i am sitting on a decent ping (250 give or take a little) but that has become increasingly rare.

EnglishTea123 wrote: »

Puhahahaha! I can't stop laughing whenever I turn on ESO. As days go by, I'm losing more and more interest in this game. Like I've said before in other discussions, this lag experience was non-existent even when there were crowds of players, so please don't try to cover it up by saying, "Oh, well, Morrowind did bring a lot of players." No. I know how full the game used to be, and this is nowhere close to being like that.

Nowadays, I just port to a keep in Cyrodiil, and, voila. 999+ ping. Bounces back to relatively normal ping. Okay, maybe it'll be better this time. Nope. Midfight, I animation cancel, and my character keeps blocking. Drained of stamina whilst not even casting any ability--simply just standing there looking stupid, doing nothing but blocking. I suppose I look better "perma-blocking", or die so trying, than when I'm casting Inner Light at around 30% health.

Other games run fine, even when I'm playing on NA servers. Sure, I do lag, but nothing compared to how I lag while playing ESO. The game, for me, right now is so brittle that if I so much as just touch it, it shatters. ZOS, I don't think this is on my(our) end... If it were, then I'd be lagging and crashing like hell while playing other games on NA server. And I say that the problem is not on my end because before Morrowind drop, I didn't crash like this. I had been lagging much worse than before then already, but at least it was somewhat "playable". Nowadays, all I can do is just port to keeps/outposts and crash. Basically, I've been paying $15 a month to crash. Truth be told, I would NOT be playing this game if it didn't have Elder Scrolls in the name. Well, I suppose it can still be fun if I can get myself to enjoy crashing and logging back in repeatedly. After all, it's all about adapting to situations, right?

Yes it is awful - constant 999+ lag spikes and I just lost connection while trying to complete my pledge a few minutes ago. Game is literally unplayable right now for me. I play other games just fine - so I doubt it's on my end either.

This is my biggest problem with this game - and always has been. It is plagued with weird lag problems. It's why I canceled my subscription and took a long break - and why it's looking like I may be doing so again if they don't clean up this lag soon. It's a real shame too because this is my favorite MMO - but the lag ruins it.

I'm in Australia and my ping is at an average of 290, can play in Cyrodiil and enjoy it. Weapon swap I find can be frustrating to wait that little extra bit which is the most annoying part or an ability fires of twice ie arrow barrage lol

Yep

I have FTTH NBN connection in Brisbane AU & I rarely see better than a 250ms ping. Since Morrowind, the average has gone up to around 350ms ping... sometimes it drops lower, more often it spikes higher. In prime time on the weekend 500ms is the average & any attempt to do even simple AC fails. Most of the time even bar swaps fail on the first button press.

Local servers will be the only thing that will solve this issue though & I really don't see that happening unless it gets sold in the crown store for like 50 million crowns LOL. In FPS games dating way back to the late 90s I would never play on a server with a 350ms ping... that's dialup bs!

I have learnt two things while being an Australian player
1. Stay out of Cryodiil (unless you are levelling Assault/Support lines) or if you are there stay in groups because lag.
2. Maelstrom Arena is... interesting.
Everything else is pretty manageable but those two pieces of content. People can be pretty understanding when you explain your situation in trial/dungeons. Just pvp is so delayed and crashes continuously on main servers that I have sort of given up going there.

I have always had issues when I come up against other players in Cyrodiil - the lag just means that by the time my character responds to any button mashing, I have been stunned and am usually pretty close to death.

I know I am not the best player and I am not blaming the slow internet for all of my deaths, but when I see a visible delay when I am not in combat, I know it cannot be helping me when I am actually in combat.

I live in Qld Australia, on NBN FTTP, and don't have much issue with the ping/latency to ESO - well, no more than usual. Ever since I started playing (since the game went B2P) I get an average of 260-280ms ping, with the occasional spike up to 300-320ms. I do get the rare 400-600ms ping and even rarer 999+ms ping spikes. This is all PvE however, as I do not go to Cyrodill apart from doing the introductory quest @ lvl 10 for the skill points.

The launch of Morrowind has not changed my ping or fps for me personally, at least not that I've noticed. Well, apart from a few days right when it launched when I did get more bad ping spikes, but has settled back down to 'normal' for me.

The PVP instance/servers for ESO are unfortunately a well known mess for everyone. Sadly because we start out with higher pings, it's even worse for us as well.

Also just a bit of technical FYI - just because your on NBN FTTH/P doesn't automatically mean you'll have a constant and/or good connection to anything. Thing is, if the route your ISP is sending your data to/from ESO servers goes through a bad hop, or a hop that gets congested a lot, then you will suffer issue's - meanwhile someone else in a different ISP that uses a different route for data that has no bad hops, or congested hops, will have no issue while playing (apart from those caused by ESO, the servers, and the ISP ZOS uses).

So while likely the issue is with ZOS' servers, ISP, netcode, etc... also realize that if any servers between you & ESO are having issue's... you will also have issue's, and that is nothing to do with ESO or ZOS. And this might only effect ESO as your ISP might use completely different routing for the other online games you play, and this other routing avoids the bad/congested server that is in your ESO route.

One thing you can do is to check is do a traceroute when you get these ping spikes. See where the issue is - if your getting the ping spikes at the end or right near the end, that is likely a sign that it's ZOS/ESO's fault. However if you see high numbers and/or *'s near the start or in the middle... then that is the issue. This means your ISP is routing your data through a bad/congested server hop and that's why your getting ping spikes. In this case you would have to petition your ISP to change the route to the ESO servers (and good luck with that, as that cost's a lot of money and unless they have a LOT of complaints about it, most ISP's won't do anything about it).

I'm getting around ~230ms here in NZ, don't seem to get a lot of the problems that are described above: where abouts in the states are the servers, Texas?

I normally get 180ms or so to West Coast games, so I'm thinking they're inland somewhere: used to use Battleping, might give it another go round soon to reduce lag.

Kamatsu wrote: »

I live in Qld Australia, on NBN FTTP, and don't have much issue with the ping/latency to ESO - well, no more than usual. Ever since I started playing (since the game went B2P) I get an average of 260-280ms ping, with the occasional spike up to 300-320ms. I do get the rare 400-600ms ping and even rarer 999+ms ping spikes. This is all PvE however, as I do not go to Cyrodill apart from doing the introductory quest @ lvl 10 for the skill points.

The launch of Morrowind has not changed my ping or fps for me personally, at least not that I've noticed. Well, apart from a few days right when it launched when I did get more bad ping spikes, but has settled back down to 'normal' for me.

The PVP instance/servers for ESO are unfortunately a well known mess for everyone. Sadly because we start out with higher pings, it's even worse for us as well.

Also just a bit of technical FYI - just because your on NBN FTTH/P doesn't automatically mean you'll have a constant and/or good connection to anything. Thing is, if the route your ISP is sending your data to/from ESO servers goes through a bad hop, or a hop that gets congested a lot, then you will suffer issue's - meanwhile someone else in a different ISP that uses a different route for data that has no bad hops, or congested hops, will have no issue while playing (apart from those caused by ESO, the servers, and the ISP ZOS uses).

So while likely the issue is with ZOS' servers, ISP, netcode, etc... also realize that if any servers between you & ESO are having issue's... you will also have issue's, and that is nothing to do with ESO or ZOS. And this might only effect ESO as your ISP might use completely different routing for the other online games you play, and this other routing avoids the bad/congested server that is in your ESO route.

One thing you can do is to check is do a traceroute when you get these ping spikes. See where the issue is - if your getting the ping spikes at the end or right near the end, that is likely a sign that it's ZOS/ESO's fault. However if you see high numbers and/or *'s near the start or in the middle... then that is the issue. This means your ISP is routing your data through a bad/congested server hop and that's why your getting ping spikes. In this case you would have to petition your ISP to change the route to the ESO servers (and good luck with that, as that cost's a lot of money and unless they have a LOT of complaints about it, most ISP's won't do anything about it).

I agree but this is surprising that many players from different countries in asia/oceania have the same thing happening at the same time. It looks like either there is something going on at ZOS level, or there is something going on with the connexion between EU/NA and ASIA/OCEANIA

I am usually patient on this, cause I know live far away, but those days have been real bad connexion to ESO

IvorySamoan wrote: »

I'm getting around ~230ms here in NZ, don't seem to get a lot of the problems that are described above: where abouts in the states are the servers, Texas?

I normally get 180ms or so to West Coast games, so I'm thinking they're inland somewhere: used to use Battleping, might give it another go round soon to reduce lag.

IvorySamoan wrote: »

I'm getting around ~230ms here in NZ, don't seem to get a lot of the problems that are described above: where abouts in the states are the servers, Texas?

I normally get 180ms or so to West Coast games, so I'm thinking they're inland somewhere: used to use Battleping, might give it another go round soon to reduce lag.

wait.....230ms in NZ, how come your kiwi getting a better ping than AUS??!!!
Have you been to vMA? how do you feel? just trying to find out if is only my TPG issue or just the whole OCE players got similar case.

GeorgeBlack wrote: »

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Back to topic. I have a few guildmates that play from Australia. The most hardcore ones do anything that it is possible to achieve low ping, at any cost be it money or be it systems. Even though they manage to play the game they are saying ofc having major problems in Cyrodiil. The ones that DON'T go to extreme lengths to achieve low ping simply don't bother with Cyrodiil.

What solution do they have to reduce ping ? I Would be interested

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kivaann wrote: »

I laugh when i see people complain about ~100-200 pings in other topics. While not as bad as OP, i count myself lucky with ~300 ping, frequently 500-600 and spikes of 999+. Quite fun walking into WB/dolmen fights and can't see the boss due to lag till the whole crowds done and depart. Ahh, sweet time.

Pretty much.Dont even get me started on vma.
Xbox Eu server is a *** disgrace.I'm wondering if the NA Server is any better but would only change if I could transfer my characters.