Anyone else playing from Australia/Asia? Literally unplayable lmao

idk

Morgul667 wrote: »

GeorgeBlack wrote: »

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Back to topic. I have a few guildmates that play from Australia. The most hardcore ones do anything that it is possible to achieve low ping, at any cost be it money or be it systems. Even though they manage to play the game they are saying ofc having major problems in Cyrodiil. The ones that DON'T go to extreme lengths to achieve low ping simply don't bother with Cyrodiil.

What solution do they have to reduce ping ? I Would be interested

@Morgul667

Honestly I do not know other than some casual conversations. I do know they raid heavily, vMoL HM clears and at least one or two have vHoF HM clears so they are pretty serious players. Some do PvP. Of course many of us experience issues with PvP.

While some may subscribe to a service that routes the data path more efficiently, I know some do not. One did stop playing for a short while because the local internet had become an issue but that has been resolved.

In actual game play one explained the if weaving light attacks was hindering his play he did not do light attacks. Bascially sometimes the ping was more workable than other times. The ones I know are very solid dps. A couple of them are easily top 1%.

That little bit of non information is probably not very helpful. Granted, they are often dealing with about 300-350 ping but of course it does bump some.

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IvorySamoan

Niuby wrote: »

IvorySamoan wrote: »

I'm getting around ~230ms here in NZ, don't seem to get a lot of the problems that are described above: where abouts in the states are the servers, Texas?

I normally get 180ms or so to West Coast games, so I'm thinking they're inland somewhere: used to use Battleping, might give it another go round soon to reduce lag.

IvorySamoan wrote: »

I'm getting around ~230ms here in NZ, don't seem to get a lot of the problems that are described above: where abouts in the states are the servers, Texas?

I normally get 180ms or so to West Coast games, so I'm thinking they're inland somewhere: used to use Battleping, might give it another go round soon to reduce lag.

wait.....230ms in NZ, how come your kiwi getting a better ping than AUS??!!!
Have you been to vMA? how do you feel? just trying to find out if is only my TPG issue or just the whole OCE players got similar case.

New Zealand's routing through the Southern Cross line to West Coast (NZ/Aus only route) is clearer/less distance than Australia's by a wee bit, we've always gotten slightly less ms ping (not much though - just geographically closer and one less hub):



In terms of content, my Cyrodiil time has been ok ish, bit lag fest but very playable, but haven't done VMA yet : been taking my time with the story stuff and dabbling in PvP but to be honest I think I'll wait till I"ve got some CP in the bank to hit that up (on PC btw, NA server, obviously).

Couple mates of mine do VMA though (Auckland, NZ also) and say that it's playable AF so that's something... then again they are beast mode players with super high CP if that counts (I"m pleb L40 still with an alt at L20).

Countcalorie

I lag out if I see a group of 20+ players.I lagged out of the mournhold bank once when there was nobody there.

Exodium

Yep I feel you mate.

Made a thread about this the other day and people reported similar problems.

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/4286530#Comment_4286530

Absolute joke and the silence from ZOS is even more disgusting.

GeorgeBlack

Morgul667 wrote: »

GeorgeBlack wrote: »

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Back to topic. I have a few guildmates that play from Australia. The most hardcore ones do anything that it is possible to achieve low ping, at any cost be it money or be it systems. Even though they manage to play the game they are saying ofc having major problems in Cyrodiil. The ones that DON'T go to extreme lengths to achieve low ping simply don't bother with Cyrodiil.

What solution do they have to reduce ping ? I Would be interested

Replacing their modem that their internet company gave them for a better one. Subscribing to vpn and other server proxies.
The result for the amount of money spend would be disappointing. I feel for people far away from ESO servers
ESO resently boasted about their account numbers. They should do something about their world wide customers. Maybe go to the extreme on providing better connection for ESO+

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hamgatan

Whilst ESO does have it's lag issues.. my fellow Strayans.. you need to understand that you will never ping below 250 on the best of days because it is physically impossible.

Depending on your ISP and how stingy they are with their uphaul wholesale providers. A good ISP might be leveraging an under subscribed submarine cable, whereas certain others may hop through several routes before it's end destination.

Take me for example - I ping on average 270-280. My first few hops back to the international router are only 1ms. Nothing. The ping from here to Singapore is probably another 40ms of that.. but the real kicker is the hop from Singapore to US West Coast. I've never had that hop ping at less than 190ms. Then the ping west to East is something like 30ms.

Remember every tcp syn/ack has to go through all those hops so the ping is an aggregate of all if those. 290ish is completely normal.

999+? Perhaps stop using Optusnet..

MarzAttakz

hamgatan wrote: »

Whilst ESO does have it's lag issues.. my fellow Strayans.. you need to understand that you will never ping below 250 on the best of days because it is physically impossible.

Depending on your ISP and how stingy they are with their uphaul wholesale providers. A good ISP might be leveraging an under subscribed submarine cable, whereas certain others may hop through several routes before it's end destination.

Take me for example - I ping on average 270-280. My first few hops back to the international router are only 1ms. Nothing. The ping from here to Singapore is probably another 40ms of that.. but the real kicker is the hop from Singapore to US West Coast. I've never had that hop ping at less than 190ms. Then the ping west to East is something like 30ms.

Remember every tcp syn/ack has to go through all those hops so the ping is an aggregate of all if those. 290ish is completely normal.

999+? Perhaps stop using Optusnet..

Correct, playing from Southern Africa to EU so the distances involved are more of less the same. We accept the cold hard fact. The issue however isn't distance related ping times.

The real issue which myself and many players are experiencing is the increase and instability of ping since the release of Morrowind, we can handle high ping, we can't handle the instability.

Yarlenzey

hamgatan wrote: »

999+? Perhaps stop using Optusnet..

Depending on your ISP and how stingEy they are with their uphaul wholesale providers.

Doesn't Telstra use Optus? How would anyone know? How do they know when to stop at 8 slices?

reesenorman

Havent had any issues since i started playing this game a year ago and im from QLD. Some of the best players are from Australia too, only thing i can think of is your isp/line.

Morgul667

GeorgeBlack wrote: »

Replacing their modem that their internet company gave them for a better one. Subscribing to vpn and other server proxies.
The result for the amount of money spend would be disappointing. I feel for people far away from ESO servers
ESO resently boasted about their account numbers. They should do something about their world wide customers. Maybe go to the extreme on providing better connection for ESO+

Tried that and it helped reduced the ping before. But lately it is bad, whatever I try :-(

irstarkey57

Playing in Portugal. Usually have ping of 180-200 which was fine. VMoL still possible. Now with these constant (every 15 seconds) spikes to 500-999 it's virtually unplayable. Dps takes a huge hit not to mention trying to shield up. Zos, I know you have a million bugs to fix but this is a huge issue. And no maintenance today is a huge bummer. I hope you all acknowledge this soon. Thanks.

Seri

hamgatan wrote: »

Whilst ESO does have it's lag issues.. my fellow Strayans.. you need to understand that you will never ping below 250 on the best of days because it is physically impossible.

Depending on your ISP and how stingy they are with their uphaul wholesale providers. A good ISP might be leveraging an under subscribed submarine cable, whereas certain others may hop through several routes before it's end destination.

Take me for example - I ping on average 270-280. My first few hops back to the international router are only 1ms. Nothing. The ping from here to Singapore is probably another 40ms of that.. but the real kicker is the hop from Singapore to US West Coast. I've never had that hop ping at less than 190ms. Then the ping west to East is something like 30ms.

Remember every tcp syn/ack has to go through all those hops so the ping is an aggregate of all if those. 290ish is completely normal.

999+? Perhaps stop using Optusnet..

Basically this. I'm not saying that the servers are 100% fine (I'm pretty sure they're not - even with normal latency numbers occasionally skills feel 'squishy'), but I'm doubting that it's 100% their servers either.

I'm based in SA and my route to ESO jumps over to VIC, up to NSW, and then over the the USA. I don't think I've seen a ping time to the first USA hop below 200ish, and that's a pure distance thing. My problem at the moment is my ISP seems to be now skimping on CVC with the nbn. Packets being dropped or delayed in transit cause ping spikes. In a quiet spot, a dropped packet might be fine but in high-bandwidth areas (eg, Cyro) the game the game falls behind a bit and if it can't catch up, that's when you get dropped.

Up until last week I hadn't noticed much difference between pre and post Morrowind ping. Now in-game latency creeps up to 400ish during the Aussie evening, but running a ping test externally is also showing variable 40-120+ms as my first hop. During off-hours this is consistently only 7ms.

Narvuntien

Perth, 300 ping.
I mean its not good but its not completely terrible.

The game just freezing and me dying at the start of boss fights when people throw out all thier abilities really sucks... makes tanking pretty much impossible. It is also common just questing and trying to blow up trash particularly in public dungeons and world bosses. It can be a little frustating but I have a ton of soul gems.

The lag causes issues with double tapping abilities and difficult light weaving that means my DPS really stuggles overall.

All of this means I rarely do dungeons and I am scared to do trials.

Cryodil PVP is actually supprisingly good in a strange way. I stay well away from the zerg in PVP I prefer to have small scale fights if i can. A large scale zerg is just full freeze for me. But the reason it is fine all in all is that your individual death is super meaningless in the grand scheme of things. I just make sure to die where I can be rezzed safely if I can and do a lot of group leading whille dead.

Yarlenzey

Narvuntien wrote: »

Perth, 300 ping.
I mean its not good but its not completely terrible.

You live in the most remote city on earth. How is you interwebs better 'n anyone elses?

hamgatan

Yarlenzey wrote: »

hamgatan wrote: »

999+? Perhaps stop using Optusnet..

Depending on your ISP and how stingEy they are with their uphaul wholesale providers.

Doesn't Telstra use Optus? How would anyone know? How do they know when to stop at 8 slices?

spelling was correct the first time

Telstra have their own international links. The Endeavour Cable to Hawaii for example. But they have vested interests in other points of exit as well, as a part of multi-telco partnerships and what not.. i.e. the AJC link to Japan.

sparafucilsarwb17_ESO

South Africa here, used to get around 250ms but lately it's 300 to 400ms and getting frequent spikes of over 999ms. When playing other games in EU I get around 220ms.

EnglishTea123

lmfao... the game doesn't lag nearly as bad when there are *** tons of people on during American prime time--I still do lag, but at least I don't crash or have my game freeze up nearly as frequently. But when there aren't as many players during Oceanic prime time, I lag like hell. What the hell is this? If the influx of Aussie/Asian players is the cause, why the eff aren't yall doing anything about this already? That is, if that is what causes such massive lag. Morning time here, which is a bit past dinner time in America, is when I can play relatively lag free. I could use that Jackie Chan meme just about now. My network runs fine, and as I've mentioned so many times, my other games, even on US servers run much better and smoother than ESO. I, personally, can confirm that the problem is on your end ZOS lmao