@Valencer
This is mostly if not all opinion if there's any *** you wanna debunk please provide evidence for my better understanding. Thank you.
K first off it IS the game's problem I don't get my s*** if RNG doesn't give me Selene/Veli for 2 months, stupid glirion chest/middle chest lmao; No Debaser sword after farming that for 3 1/2 weeks straight either.. again rng.(strong builds to my liking cannot be achieved b/c of this obviously, though on my 2016 account I have used these before) I'll still be continuing after the maintenance. Just a reminder, been doing ALL of this daily. WHILE finding time to PvP.
[NonCP Response for 2 paragraphs which are off topic lol]The damage output against prepared PvPers such as tanks, shield stacks builds using a rotation with consistent/repetitive burst drain stamina easily as it usually doesn't do instant kill dmg and really even far below half health dmg unless you're lucky enuff to 1v1 obviously new/inexperienced/other squishy/unprepared. For Xv1s I believe most classes would be at a disadvantage, and usually the squishiest, so you were responding to @Glamdring about procblades being strong in Xv1 but realistically that's any class played good, 2 proc Stamsorcs for example against 1 of whatever class you name it............. and YAYYY for Cloak receiving "buff", how needed. Would you happen to know if heavy staff attack no longer takes NBs out of stealth?
Anyway assuming you're talking about ganking/killing people who aren't prepared/or using procs, *** even all 3 as the "idiot proof playstyle", which indeed it is easy as hell. Keep in mind every single class has ganked or can gank, some with procs, some without. Even if you're not talking solely about ganking or procblades, procs are still used by many other classes.
Hard Mode vs Baby Mode
I fixed your title for you.
If that´s your perceived truth it might indicate a problem of gitting gud with stamblade.
Magsorc vs StamNB should not be able to kill each other if both play defensively in open world setups.
The NB depends on the sorc to play offensive to score a kill.
The sorc depends on the NB to step into mines to do so.
For dueling an axebleed heavyarmor build should win on NB.
Really? Convince me to use my VMA battleaxe sharpened over farming for a greatsword @Derra ...Save me the trouble yo
Also magsorc x sNB is a classic fight, as a sNB main(for pvp) since release I always love a fight against one. Those mine camping/atronach sorcs that keep curse up and know when to streak can be pesky no doubt.
^ I'd love to know his build too, heard about something like that going around but i think its a dw/2h build
Had a really intense fight with one of the oldest stamblades on my server yesterday.
If you mind the burst, you won't die, not even against Selene. The same is true for the NB, though. Cloak+LoS assure you're healing to full. Sorc has to judge correctly when to stack shields and when Hardened is enough.
No burst combo is actually enough to finish the opponent on its own. Mines can be calculated, Selene can be evaded. In the end, I succeeded by pressuring and denying LoS when both our resources were depleted.
So I would say it's an equal fight, HOWEVER, the stamblade has way better escape tools should the fight turn against it or should reinforcements arrive.
Had a similar one a few days ago..
I had a really hard time landing hits due to dodge into cloak - what did hit was easily healed, yet I shielded/healed through all his burst - till he switched to the pet, where I usually managed to stun+resummon fairly quickly..
But I'm not built for long sustained fights.. not when you have to keep shields constantly up to be ready for that burst from stealth again.. and not when the pet (with weaker shields) is focussed. I'm build more for the burst - but when you can't make it hit....
He basically out-sustained me till I went oom and died.
Got one-shotted by a stamblade last night while stood around with no shields up in a keep.
But also kill plenty of NB's - especially when they get too focussed on the kill and don't dodge/cloak/los enough.
Its mostly down to player skill now. (oh and whether CP or not makes a difference too)
are you asking this question from people with a stamina based prefrence or magicka? because answers will varry.
every nightblade will say sorc is easy mode.
every sorc will say nightblades are easy mode.
everyone who says they are a sorc main but think stamblade is more skillful, is really a stsmblade trolling.
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Hard Mode vs Baby Mode
I fixed your title for you.
If that´s your perceived truth it might indicate a problem of gitting gud with stamblade.
Magsorc vs StamNB should not be able to kill each other if both play defensively in open world setups.
The NB depends on the sorc to play offensive to score a kill.
The sorc depends on the NB to step into mines to do so.
For dueling an axebleed heavyarmor build should win on NB.
MrDenimChicken wrote: »Hard Mode vs Baby Mode
I fixed your title for you.
If that´s your perceived truth it might indicate a problem of gitting gud with stamblade.
Magsorc vs StamNB should not be able to kill each other if both play defensively in open world setups.
The NB depends on the sorc to play offensive to score a kill.
The sorc depends on the NB to step into mines to do so.
For dueling an axebleed heavyarmor build should win on NB.
if a sorc times it so meteor (undodgeable except AOE on ground) + radiant destruction (undodgeable) go off at same time, and the executioner lands when those 2 go off, than a stamblade is dead with not much counterplay except to vigor right before meteor hits, block the meteor, dodge immediately, and pray to god your health is above the executioner procing
MrDenimChicken wrote: »Hard Mode vs Baby Mode
I fixed your title for you.
If that´s your perceived truth it might indicate a problem of gitting gud with stamblade.
Magsorc vs StamNB should not be able to kill each other if both play defensively in open world setups.
The NB depends on the sorc to play offensive to score a kill.
The sorc depends on the NB to step into mines to do so.
For dueling an axebleed heavyarmor build should win on NB.
if a sorc times it so meteor (undodgeable except AOE on ground) + radiant destruction (undodgeable) go off at same time, and the executioner lands when those 2 go off, than a stamblade is dead with not much counterplay except to vigor right before meteor hits, block the meteor, dodge immediately, and pray to god your health is above the executioner procing
leepalmer95 wrote: »MrDenimChicken wrote: »Hard Mode vs Baby Mode
I fixed your title for you.
If that´s your perceived truth it might indicate a problem of gitting gud with stamblade.
Magsorc vs StamNB should not be able to kill each other if both play defensively in open world setups.
The NB depends on the sorc to play offensive to score a kill.
The sorc depends on the NB to step into mines to do so.
For dueling an axebleed heavyarmor build should win on NB.
if a sorc times it so meteor (undodgeable except AOE on ground) + radiant destruction (undodgeable) go off at same time, and the executioner lands when those 2 go off, than a stamblade is dead with not much counterplay except to vigor right before meteor hits, block the meteor, dodge immediately, and pray to god your health is above the executioner procing
Are we talking about sorc?
Or a 3v1 with a sorc, magplar, and a 2h user?
Because what you've just typed has just confused me so much?
Meteor, has nothing to do with sorc...
Radiant... a magplar
Executioner? errr
You've lost me, also just block, vigor, roll then cloak the meteor.
@OdinForge Procs. Hexys is probably the best dueling stamblade (who doesn't abuse DW axe bleed) in EU. He beats every mag sorc (and everyone else) with 3k stam recov, 1.2kish mag recov and procs. Procs procs procs.
@Sarato This is about a duel is it not? And even open world 1vX, go watch Hexys stream with those exact stats I told you on procblade. He has near infinite sustain even with poisons and *** on him and he 1/2/3vX's.
Waffennacht wrote: »When I hear open world, sorc, and Stam NB, I'm thinking
"No way in hell a sorc survived the gank from horseback"
Stun a magsorc and keep him on defense for 6 seconds. Repeat and third time he will be out of stamina and you can finish him off.
Stamblade. Dont let them cloak and they are usually squishy af.
Because you don't need to git gud with magsorcs, you just follow a build and you're gud.
Stamblades are good if you know how to play and build them, but magsorcs are much easier to play with.
MrDenimChicken wrote: »Hard Mode vs Baby Mode
I fixed your title for you.
If that´s your perceived truth it might indicate a problem of gitting gud with stamblade.
Magsorc vs StamNB should not be able to kill each other if both play defensively in open world setups.
The NB depends on the sorc to play offensive to score a kill.
The sorc depends on the NB to step into mines to do so.
For dueling an axebleed heavyarmor build should win on NB.
if a sorc times it so meteor (undodgeable except AOE on ground) + radiant destruction (undodgeable) go off at same time, and the executioner lands when those 2 go off, than a stamblade is dead with not much counterplay except to vigor right before meteor hits, block the meteor, dodge immediately, and pray to god your health is above the executioner procing
thankyourat wrote: »
thankyourat wrote: »Well in battle grounds the most dominant class right now is mag sorc
What is this heavy armour, axe bleed build that keeps getting mentioned?