I like the idea of weapons having a visual theme that meshes with the monster sets. Maybe with their own unique 1pc bonuses that only function if you have the 2pc bonus for their matched monster sets. For example a greatsword that deals additional lightning damage if you have the overcharge effect from Kena active.

Depends on what the effects are. Even if the matched weapons were good, they wouldn't be useful in every build. So we'd be back to vMA weapons.

Yes to monster weapons, no to 3 set bonuses.

No real reason to do this as there are plenty of dropped or even crafted 5p sets that have the 2p bonus identical to the 1p provided by those monster sets.

I think the 2H bonus to count as 2p bonuses has already been discussed as a separate topic a number of times. There are already 2 arenas that drop 1H and 2H weapons wit sufficient bonuses to make the "monster weapon" still redundant.

Probably worth remembering that, "alternatives," wouldn't make vMA weapons redundant.

"Why exactly should vMA weapons be the go-to anyway?"

In my opinion they shouldn't. But...if you introduce Monster weapons that in some cases are just as good as the weapons you get from completing the hardest content in the game and people have spent days grinding for I think there'd be a lot of backlash.

It's not impossible to run a veteran hard mode dungeon. In fact...the average player can probably do it with the correct gear and understanding of the dungeon mechanics.

The average player cannot run vMA imo. The gear people receive as a reward should scale in quality with the difficulty of the content. I'd like to see more unique enchantments but Monster weapons with unique enchantments would have to be implemented very carefully so as not to become the new immediate go to and rather expand the list of go to options.

If they're gonna be on par with vDSA and vMA weapons then the challenge required to get them should be on par too.
This is why I suggested having them just offer a 1 piece bonus because it doesn't upset any current balance. If anything it just gives players who can't complete the veteran arenas some cheap knock offs to help them compete in PVP and trials.

InFernalEntity wrote: »

"Why exactly should vMA weapons be the go-to anyway?"

In my opinion they shouldn't. But...if you introduce Monster weapons that in some cases are just as good as the weapons you get from completing the hardest content in the game and people have spent days grinding for I think there'd be a lot of backlash.

It's not impossible to run a veteran hard mode dungeon. In fact...the average player can probably do it with the correct gear and understanding of the dungeon mechanics.

The average player cannot run vMA imo. The gear people receive as a reward should scale in quality with the difficulty of the content. I'd like to see more unique enchantments but Monster weapons with unique enchantments would have to be implemented very carefully so as not to become the new immediate go to and rather expand the list of go to options.

If they're gonna be on par with vDSA and vMA weapons then the challenge required to get them should be on par too.
This is why I suggested having them just offer a 1 piece bonus because it doesn't upset any current balance. If anything it just gives players who can't complete the veteran arenas some cheap knock offs to help them compete in PVP and trials.

I disagree, vMA is hard content...but its not a whole lot harder that soloing some vet dungeons. You will noticed I said CERTAIN vet dungeons...not ANY vet dungeon. Obviously some vet dungeons are harder than others to solo(ones like vCoS are very difficult indeed to solo). I believe the average player is capable of completing vMA(at least the average max CP player) with enough time and practice. I wasnt necessarily advocating for that to be the condition to receive a weapon of that type though, just a possibility, I am sure ZoS would be able to come up with some content or conditions equivalent to vMA to get equivalent weapons.

This is because most Veteran "Hard Mode" dungeons arent hard. At least not anymore. The exception being HM vRoM, which is miserable with a pug group most times,HM vCoS slightly less so. I guess what I would really like to see is hard small-man content(2-3-4-5 people) on a par with vMA or vDSA that doesn't take 3 hours. I don't mind running a 3 hour(or longer) dungeon by any means, but its because of the time length that you can never find a group for vDSA(a lot of other people do mind long runs). This might be different if you could queue for vDSA, but you cant so I think ZoS badly needs to revisit the available(and future) hard small-man group content they have available.