Hollowjack Motif question

CMFan1966
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Wasn't the Hollowjack Motif part of the Witches Festival last fall? And wasn't that motif available at the same time as the Grim Harlequin? If so, why are there still so many Hollowjack pages available at guild stores nearly a year after the event? And why aren't any of the other festival related motif pages available? I'm not complaining. Hollowjack and Grim Harlequin are two of my favorite motifs in the game.

Bonus question.....Why is it when I open a chest, there is always exactly 116 gold in there? That just seems like an unusual amount. Thanks!
  • altemriel
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    yes, these motif pages and style mat was availiable only during that festival, but people probably farmed so many, that it is still on sale
  • HEXENWOLF
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    Well, the 116 gold is a byproduct of the game scaling to your level. As you go up in level, the amount of gold changes and then stays the same until you level to the next threshold. As for your original question, I haven't a clue as to why this is the case. Perhaps the market was simply oversaturated during the event.
    Edited by HEXENWOLF on June 26, 2017 7:59AM
  • Fishoscandi
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    For the Hollowjack motif, same as @altemriel said: People farmed it a lot so there tons. I personally hate it. Grim Harlequin was a crown exclusive during the festival. Same as the motif(Frostcaster? idk)during the New Life festival.

    As for 116 gold... Maybe an easter egg? Perhaps someone that designed these chests has a birthday on the 16th of January so he/she put it...
    Edited by Fishoscandi on June 26, 2017 8:01AM
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  • Runs
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    There are so many because they were way too easy to get. Every boss you killed gave you a chance. The other motif from the winter event is different because that had 9 iirc different quests to go do and became a pain in the ass, personally I stopped doing it once I had my characters taken care of.
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  • Chalinal
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    Grim Harlequin was for sale during the event on the CROWN STORE ONLY. Hollowjack was available in game through farming the dailies.
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  • Robby94
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    zos learned from the first event how over populated the market got with the hollowjack motifs and made the pages more tedious to get, the daily quests limited your chance at getting a loot box from every world boss killed to 9 or so quest rewards per player a day,

    As for the 116 gold in chests, its because your not wearing prosperus gear like the rest of us :wink:
  • lonewolf26
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    You could farm the event while it was live and hold on to any motifs, and collectibles for later. They were dropping left and right, so many so I taught the full motif to each of my 12 toons. The motifs are trade-able like any other. The reason they're likely resurfacing on guild stores are that people are either clearing their bags or are hoping enough time has past and they could make a little gold off of them.

    As to your bonus question, your guess is as good as mine. It does make me wonder why the last few weeks the Luxury vendor in Cold Harbor has been selling his wares for unusual amounts of gold: 8,125, 27,084, 5,417. Quite unusual.
    Edited by lonewolf26 on June 26, 2017 8:04AM
  • Skayaq
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    Because everyone who participated in the witche's festival had hollowjack motifs flowing our their ass, and some people rather than putting them up for sale right away when the market was overflowing with them held on and put them up for sale now where there is less motifs being sold, and due to morrowind release a greater chance of new/reurning people who don't have the motif.
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  • MrsPink
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    They also come up as one of the styles you have to craft on some Master Writs. People that cam in the game after the festival, or couldnt be bothered still ned. So with the Master writs there is definetly still a marked for them.
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  • MrsPink
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    On a side note, we didnt farm for the motifs, but those stupid boxes. One of the achievements was that you had to get a 100 boxes
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  • Dubhliam
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    As many already said, those motifs dropped left and right, probably enough motifs dropped for every ESO player to be able to complete it with at least 3 characters.

    Thinking how it was a limited time motif drop, many players decided to hold onto them for future resale, when prices might come up again due to the increase of demand by new players.

    The problem is... so many people had stockpiled them that the prices barely got up at all.
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  • starkerealm
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    The Witches Festival allowed you to get a Plunder Skull (the grab bags) every 5 minutes (I think, it might have actually been every 3 minutes). In contrast the New Life Festival limited you to 9 boxes per day, per character (with a single one shot box), and the Jester's Festival limited you to 3 per day, per character (with another one shot box you could get at the beginning).

    This means there is way more Halloween stuff in circulation than for either of the other events. It's part of why the Double Bloody Mara is worth a fraction of what the Hissmir Fish Eye Rye recipe will set you back. And, part of why the Dubious Camoran Throne recipe is so expensive.

    This meant that players went through (in some cases, literally) thousands of Plunder Skulls.

    Beyond that, the gold drops from Halloween (the two masks, anyway) were much rarer than anything else. The New Life Festival runeboxes were far more common, and easier to obtain, so their value is much lower. There's more towels than scarecrow masks, in spite of how many people were cracking Plunder Skulls.

    But, yeah, basically, there's a lot of Hollowjack pages in circulation. Less so with Skinchanger.
  • Tasear
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    The event was for 38 days. It was a sweet legendary party that will never happen in eso history.
    Edited by Tasear on June 26, 2017 9:20AM
  • Beardimus
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    As everyone has said that event was farmed to hell. People went less crazy in later ones. That's said there are loads of Skinchanger pages about too
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  • Sigma957
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    I have lotsss of hollowjack motif in my bank just waiting to be sold when the time is right.
  • Beardimus
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    Haha you might be waiting a while, recipes on the other hand.... Gold mine!
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  • Taleof2Cities
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    A couple of my alts can craft Hollowjack and their own racial style ... and that's it.
  • Bonzodog01
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    Yeah, Dubious Camoran Throne recipe is now beyond rare on the XBox EU server. A complete search of every guild store in game the other day produced zero results. It seems the recipe is no longer available at all on the XBox EU server.
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  • starkerealm
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    Bonzodog01 wrote: »
    Yeah, Dubious Camoran Throne recipe is now beyond rare on the XBox EU server. A complete search of every guild store in game the other day produced zero results. It seems the recipe is no longer available at all on the XBox EU server.

    It is entirely possible, though not particularly likely, that there are no remaining (non-consumed) copies on your server. Last I checked, there were less than 30 in circulation on PC/NA.
  • CMFan1966
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    These are all REALLY GOOD answers. I knew the Grim Harlequin was sold in the Crown Store and I hope it will be again this fall. Hollowjack is still not too expensive in the guild stores. I was really, really new at the game when the Halloween Festival was going on, so I didn't really do anything involved with it.

    Now I've just got to find one of those bath towels somewhere since I never got one of those either! LOL!

    I never thought of changing out a piece of my armor for something with the prosperous trait! That was just plain stupid on my part!
  • Donari
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    @CMFan1966 If you're on PC/NA, I likely have a spare bath towel I can fling your way. I'm not in a trading guild, so things like that pile up. I'd have to actually check the bank to be sure -- let me know if I should make the effort :)
  • CMFan1966
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    @Donari , Yes, I am indeed on PC/NA! I would be delighted to take that bath towel off your hands for whatever you think is a fair price...if I have it. I have about 140K in gold spread across my characters and the bank.

    I should have way more gold than that, but I am an admitted guild store shopaholic.
  • Donari
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    @CMFan1966 I sent ya a PM.
  • resdayn00
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    The Hollowjack motifs dropped quite often from the Plunder Skulls - these Plunder Skulls were dropped by all bosses, including delve bosses and dolmen bosses. I farmed them in Deshaan, at Lagomere Dolmen. A world boss is basically next to the dolmen and just as the dolmen was finished, the world boss would spawn. That's 2 Plunder Skulls in just a few minutes. I remember how many of us were farming there, it was a heavily populated spot.

    There were 2 main reasons for the amount of Hollowjack motifs, aside of the reason above. First, there is an achievement that requires you to get 100 plunder skulls, and this achievement is needed, just like the other ones, to get the final Witches' Festival achievement for the title. Second, many people farmed the skulls for the 2 runeboxes which were quite rare. I believe these 2 reasons were mainly responsible for the crazy amount of Hollowjack Motifs.

    When they first appeared people would buy them for even 3k gold per piece, maybe even more. Just after a few days they were basically being given away for free by players including myself. There were just too many, they wouldn't even sell for 100 gold. As time passed and new players came, they slowly started to disappear from guild stores, but there are still so many I doubt they would all sell before the next Witches' Festival.

    So yeah, although your question was already answered, here is my part.
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  • CMFan1966
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    @resdayn00, I like your answer too. I mean I was brand spanking new at this game at the time of the Witches Festival. I didn't get the single motif page because I didn't do any of the stuff required to get them. I buy the Hollowjack pages at guild stores because I like the motif. I would still have a toon that knew the Grim Harlequin style if I hadn't been so stupid uninformed as to delete the one that knew it. I thought motif knowledge was account-wide rather than being based on each character.

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  • ArchMikem
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    With the number of times players turned in the daily quest rewards during the festival with the numerous characters they have, no doubt there was a massive build up of duplicate chapters left over.
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