You shouldn't be able to wear more than 1 proc set, that simple but Zenimax loves to promote no skill playstyle (poisons, proc sets, reactive, ect..).

are their people complaining about procs in PVE? If not leave PVE the @*&#^ alone!!! Make this a PVE only thing.

Further, ZOS should be able to do some simple analysis and see what the proc metas are and adjust them accordingly... instead they just across the board nerf all procs tho. Why use data and attempt to balance in a specific effective way when you can just half-azzed nerf everything.

Seriously, if Bahrah's Curse get's messed with in PVE (the data will show nobody uses/cares about this set), I'll be done. Yeah no worries, but they wont see another dime from me.

I'll take a wait see, but WROBEL needs to get his act together.

That's not a solution. That means that Illambris(etc) users in PvE get screwed, you have just destroyed a ton of dmg a group does PvE. If you want to fix it in PvP, do away with being able to use them in PvP entirely. PvP shouldnt be PvProc anyway. There are other items you cant equip in PvP areas, just add whatever proc sets you want to that list...voila, problem solved.

WuffyCerulei wrote: »

The simplest solution for ZOS to deal with the issue of damage-dealing proc sets one-shotting people in any PvP situation is to make it so they cannot stack and share a cooldown. This means only one can go off at a time. Things like Selene's and Viper going off at the same time or in a very short time would be a thing of the past. Not just stam-based sets, but also magicka-based sets would have this cooldown too. Proc sets that increase spell/weapon damage, give certain buffs, etc. are fine at the moment, as they don't cause people to be one-shot.

No, the simplest solution would be to get rid of PvP. That's what's currently destroying this game.

IcyDeadPeople wrote: »

There are too many different sets in this game with some sort of proc, and quite a few are already pretty weak. Just nerf the specific sets that are overperforming (selene, viper etc).

Besides nerfing those overperforming, my solution would be to allow them to properly scale with max resource and weapon/spell dmge. Makes no sense that proc set hits the same regardeless if you spe for tanking or in no CP.

Qbiken wrote: »

May I ask how OP thought about how this would work togehter with defensive proc-sets??? Didn´t think about that did you??

Just stop with the "global/easy" fixes to proc-sets already. It´s just going to make things worse. Tweak each indivdual proc-set instead off trying to fix (aka screw them all in this case) all at the same time.

You do realize that I said damage-dealing sets. Not defensive ones. I was extrenely specific on what kind of proc sets I was talking about.

josiahva wrote: »

That's not a solution. That means that Illambris(etc) users in PvE get screwed, you have just destroyed a ton of dmg a group does PvE. If you want to fix it in PvP, do away with being able to use them in PvP entirely. PvP shouldnt be PvProc anyway. There are other items you cant equip in PvP areas, just add whatever proc sets you want to that list...voila, problem solved.

If the cooldown was put into Battle Spirit, which I should have mentioned, Pve would be perfectly fine.

O_LYKOS wrote: »

I feel the best solution is for people to just let it be.

It is what it is. If people don't like or can't accept dying in pvp environment then they shouldn't be playing.
People use whatever tools available to get the job done.

^^This. It is what it is, get good enough to deal with it or don't PvP. There will always be something OP in PvP, adapt or die.

Isn't the issue just that some sets are guaranteed procs the first hit, then a cool down, like vipers? This obviously makes it gank best in slot because the average dps is all done at gank time.

If that's the case all they have to do is just change those sets to be a % chance to proc on each hit, like so many other sets have. Adjust the numbers so the average dps is the same as before and pve is happy?

This would make some gank attempts drop you if they get lucky, but other times the proc wouldnt fire, so would do less dmg then if they just had hundings or something.