Is housing dying?

Rohamad_Ali · June 2017

OmniDo wrote: »

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

Not at all . Redecorating phase 2 right now . The Night Mother spoke to this one and demanded a better alter .

Night Mother spoke to me, too.
Demanded I build an audience chamber in Daggerfall.

You honor our dread Father . Nightmother watch over you .

lasertooth · June 2017

aliyavana wrote: »

Housing isn't dead, Dev feedback on it is

This.

Morgha_Kul · June 2017

I don't think it really got off the ground.

They simply overpriced housing so egregiously, that few people are even ABLE to indulge in it to any degree. Beyond the cost of the houses, the cost of the furnishings. That kind of keeps the Roleplayers from doing anything with the houses (Roleplayers tend to have little ingame cash, so they're forced to use REAL money... and as mentioned the houses are stupidly expensive).

Of course, there isn't anything to DO in the houses, which makes the adventurers less interested in the housing.

Housing is something that a lot of people might have greatly enjoyed, that could have enriched the game in many ways. Instead, it was implemented as a cash grab with no real game value. I hate being right all the time, but I predicted this sort of thing would happen when they implemented the microtransaction model. Welcome to the new world of "gaming."

Diminish · June 2017

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

Myself, I just wanted the DPS Dummy.

This.

There is barely enough room in my 5'x5' free apartment for my target dummy, but it gets the job done lol.

Espionage- · June 2017

I only did the first 'quest' for it, and haven't touched it since.

lasertooth · June 2017

Morgha_Kul wrote: »

I don't think it really got off the ground....

I disagree.

I think housing took off and exceeded any and all projections the company predicted. I think it has overwhelmed them, which has led to development related inner office arguments...mayhap even a power struggle here and there as one department has pulled in massive amounts of money.

I think there were thousands of players like me who are at that place in life where we can spend money on a hobby. I used to do wood working, I used to be into saltwater aquariums. I used to own a horse. Spending ~$300/month on eso may seem absurd to people, but even spending that, or more, it's still the cheapest hobby I've ever had. I've spent more money on this game the past 3 months than I've spent on all my in game app purchases from all games I've ever played added up together.

And I'm not the only one. I don't even think I'm a minority.

That's likely why they haven't responded or commented to any of the hundreds of posts complaining about housing. They can't comment because they aren't allowed to. The people in charge haven't picked which direction they are taking things. They are trying to readjust their business plan.

This is all just a silly hypothetical thought though. It's what I tell myself to sleep at night. I pray for the day when they at least double the #max furnishings. Lol

NewBlacksmurf · June 2017

It was never alive in how they did it

PS4_ZeColmeia · June 2017

MissBizz wrote: »

I'm still hoarding all my mats so I can actually properly decorate my house. The grind is huge if you want to craft your own stuff, along with terrible drop rate on mats (when just playing and not specifically farming) I think deters a lot of people from even starting.

This is me. I'm PvP'ing to get my resto skills back on my hybrid (almost to 350 skill points) so I'll just keep looting and thieving when I pve until I have a majority of recipies to make stuff. Don't see the point in spending in game money when I can just get things over time for free. Especially with housing missing a lot of key features and having a low item count.

psychotrip · June 2017

GeorgeBlack wrote: »

I actually never saw the point in housing. It doesn't offer teleports and buffs like guild houses do in other mmorpgs. It doesn't do anything that properties do in other games.

What do people do with housing?

It's for people who play RPGs to immerse themselves in another world and to role-play, as well as people who like customization and collection. Not everyone is into that sort of thing, of course, but a lot of people are.

purple-magicb16_ESO · June 2017

MarrazzMist wrote: »

xerikos wrote: »

MarrazzMist wrote: »

Preview in crafting window would be great!

Isn't that possible right now (or are you in console)?

xerikos wrote: »

MarrazzMist wrote: »

Preview in crafting window would be great!

Isn't that possible right now (or are you in console)?

Is there an add-on for that? Wow I didn't know. I'm pc.

I believe when you are in the furnishing section at a crafting table you can press 't' to preview that item. You don't need an addon for this function.

Morimizo · June 2017

Love the housing, intensely dislike the very limited space; I'm constantly caught between, should I build something (like a ramp to the second floor back balcony), plant a flower garden (not able to use the actual alchemy ingredients to do so--lol), OR set the table in the dining room.

They could double the space by having the limit apply to inside/outside separately.

And want to build an oven, please. The load screen for Hunding's taunts every time.

Tannus15 · June 2017

Morimizo wrote: »

Love the housing, intensely dislike the very limited space; I'm constantly caught between, should I build something (like a ramp to the second floor back balcony), plant a flower garden (not able to use the actual alchemy ingredients to do so--lol), OR set the table in the dining room.

They could double the space by having the limit apply to inside/outside separately.

And want to build an oven, please. The load screen for Hunding's taunts every time.

Yeah, I'm avoiding building structures because they use so many item slots, even to do something simple like stairs. You can decorate an entire area to a decent degree or you can build stairs to access an extra area, like hundings roof, and then have to decorate that space too.

Morgha_Kul · June 2017

lasertooth wrote: »

Morgha_Kul wrote: »

I don't think it really got off the ground....

I disagree.

I think housing took off and exceeded any and all projections the company predicted. I think it has overwhelmed them, which has led to development related inner office arguments...mayhap even a power struggle here and there as one department has pulled in massive amounts of money.

I think there were thousands of players like me who are at that place in life where we can spend money on a hobby. I used to do wood working, I used to be into saltwater aquariums. I used to own a horse. Spending ~$300/month on eso may seem absurd to people, but even spending that, or more, it's still the cheapest hobby I've ever had. I've spent more money on this game the past 3 months than I've spent on all my in game app purchases from all games I've ever played added up together.

And I'm not the only one. I don't even think I'm a minority.

That's likely why they haven't responded or commented to any of the hundreds of posts complaining about housing. They can't comment because they aren't allowed to. The people in charge haven't picked which direction they are taking things. They are trying to readjust their business plan.

This is all just a silly hypothetical thought though. It's what I tell myself to sleep at night. I pray for the day when they at least double the #max furnishings. Lol

I'm sure there are others like you, but I suspect you're the exception, not the rule. No one I know can possibly spend $300 a month on ANY kind of entertainment. That's more than I spend in a month to FEED myself. It's not a trivial amount of money.

psychotrip · June 2017

What's the point of buying houses when ZOS keeps changing the way they look on a whim?

disintegr8 · June 2017

Housing was never going to appeal to everyone, just like not everyone likes PVP, some dislike PVE - different things appeal to different people.

I bought a stack of houses only because I could. I have my crafting stations and test dummy in one and use several of them as free wayshrines when I am in the middle of nowhere. I did a bit of decorating in my main house, but not much and all of my other houses are still empty.

Storage would make a huge difference for me but that would cost ZOS. I would then no longer need the craft bag or extra bank spaces, so would be able to do without ESO+ permanently. I dare say a lot of other people would be in the same boat.

Aliyavana · June 2017

@ZOS_GinaBruno any chance we can get a eso live that discuss the future of housing?

VampiricByNature · June 2017

I've been a housing addict but I don't need to buy mats or items. I'm just slowly filling my houses in between doing other things. With the limited capacity it's very difficult to go crazy.

I would have preferred the limitation of only having 1 house at a time if they changed the capacity. Instead in have 5 houses but only 1 people can see. And it's carefully decorated with large items and no tiny things to ensure it doesn't look empty.

Akevoriath · June 2017

It was poorly implemented and they haven't done anything to fix that since its release. People are starting to lose interest in things that are just wasting their time and money.

MyKillv2.0 · June 2017

Akevoriath wrote: »

It was poorly implemented and they haven't done anything to fix that since its release. People are starting to lose interest in things that are just wasting their time and money.

This quote can be used to describe every single new feature Zo$ has implemented

MattT1988 · June 2017

Definitely not dying. But it needs a rocket up its arse though. Needs more usual features so it's not purely cosmetic.

lasertooth · June 2017

Morgha_Kul wrote: »

I'm sure there are others like you, but I suspect you're the exception, not the rule. No one I know can possibly spend $300 a month on ANY kind of entertainment. That's more than I spend in a month to FEED myself. It's not a trivial amount of money.

Ahh, I forget that I live in a very high cost of living area. I guess it puts things in better perspective.

Iccotak · June 2017

GeorgeBlack wrote: »

I actually never saw the point in housing. It doesn't offer teleports and buffs like guild houses do in other mmorpgs. It doesn't do anything that properties do in other games.

What do people do with housing?

Agreed. If it doesn't offer me space for my stuff I don't see the point

Wolfshead · June 2017

Tasear wrote: »

I ask this because seems hardly anyone on PC NA is selling materials anymore. Also seems like some people just gave up? What are your thoughts?

The problem just like in SWTOR is that housing in ESO is very useless atm beside from adding craft table housing in both SWTOR and ESO is just for show that mean so you can show off place to other palyer which is really sad and i wrote this back when ZoS announcements housing was come to ESO.

I have house but im hardly there why mostlike for dont do anything and so out of place.

Thing the should do is

If logout in your house you should so call rest XP on char
Add NPC so it feel like living place
Add Vendor so you can buy samething like you do at any Vendor in game i mean the basic potion, food, lookpick
Fix thing like if you invite someone the come there even if you are not there and also let other player logout that your house
Add more thing to ingame house Vendor so not everything need to crafting for or Crown Store
Maybe add some buffs for you own a house maybe like few % better drop rate on gold/craft repice/craft material
Add Storage space that is bound to account

This just few thing from top of head right now for honest housing in ESO have really good potential i just hope ZoS dont waste like BioWare did in SWTOR there basically everything is in there cash shop.

Akevoriath · June 2017

MyKillv2.0 wrote: »

Akevoriath wrote: »

It was poorly implemented and they haven't done anything to fix that since its release. People are starting to lose interest in things that are just wasting their time and money.

This quote can be used to describe every single new feature Zo$ has implemented

Sadly true

Akevoriath · June 2017

Wolfshead wrote: »

Tasear wrote: »

I ask this because seems hardly anyone on PC NA is selling materials anymore. Also seems like some people just gave up? What are your thoughts?

The problem just like in SWTOR is that housing in ESO is very useless atm beside from adding craft table housing in both SWTOR and ESO is just for show that mean so you can show off place to other palyer which is really sad and i wrote this back when ZoS announcements housing was come to ESO.

I have house but im hardly there why mostlike for dont do anything and so out of place.

Thing the should do is
If logout in your house you should so call rest XP on char

Add NPC so it feel like living place

Add Vendor so you can buy samething like you do at any Vendor in game i mean the basic potion, food, lookpick

Fix thing like if you invite someone the come there even if you are not there and also let other player logout that your house

Add more thing to ingame house Vendor so not everything need to crafting for or Crown Store

Maybe add some buffs for you own a house maybe like few % better drop rate on gold/craft repice/craft material

Add Storage space that is bound to account

This just few thing from top of head right now for honest housing in ESO have really good potential i just hope ZoS dont waste like BioWare did in SWTOR there basically everything is in there cash shop.

At this point I think SWTOR is actually superior when compared to ESO. Sure there are a lot of cash grab loot boxes but you can actually get most (if not all) of the items in them on the GTN (Which is a global auction house in SWTOR - easy to use and navigate, prices aren't bad at all ) SWTOR has a much better story and it has been done extremely well, subscribing is actually an attractive option in that game, they have even started selling some of the rarer items from the loot boxes on the GTN. DLC's like KOTFE and KOTET are probably among the best DLC's in game history, let alone MMO history, and you can play them all by subscribing, unlike Morrowind. The only thing that hinders SWTOR is the combat, it's the typically bad MMO-style combat. If they had made SWTOR an RPG, as opposed to an MMORPG, it would have been amazing.

TheBonesXXX · June 2017

Good riddance, more fluff and time sinks that suck the resources out of the game.

Aliyavana · June 2017

TheBonesXXX wrote: »

Good riddance, more fluff and time sinks that suck the resources out of the game.

Just because you see housing as a waste of time doesn't mean everyone else does

Morgha_Kul · June 2017

I've said this before. I would LOVE to get into housing in the game. One of my favourite things to do is become part of the world.

When I played Star Wars Galaxies, I spent easily 90% of my time driving around searching for a place to put a house, then decorating it. I had houses on several planets, and was part of the many towns. I would spend my time there crafting, or imagining I was having dinner, or entertaining guests, or selling goods, there in my own home.

The Old Republic is disappointing for the same reason THIS is. I can't have a house for each of my characters, they're FAR too expensive, and exclude a significant portion of the community, and there's nothing to DO with them. I can do some crafting at least, but there's no traffic, no chatting, nothing. It's a very sterile experience.

Housing could be a wonderful, social experience. Sure, it's not going to appeal to everyone, but neither does PvP. Different strokes for different folks.

ninjaguyman · June 2017

i got a medium sized home, got a dps dummy for me and my buddies to use, then called it a day. I'd say working as intended, im pretty sure the people who were interested in housing already got what they wanted from it, and therefore stopped farming.

HEXENWOLF · June 2017

aliyavana wrote: »

@ZOS_GinaBruno any chance we can get a eso live that discuss the future of housing?

Oh, how I would love this. I wish this idea was its own thread with its own poll. Strength in numbers.