GW2 HoT or ESO Morrowind

ChuckyPayne · June 2017

Callous2208 wrote: »

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I find ESO to be much closer to GW1 than GW2 was.

Sad, but very true. Same feelings here. ANet lied to us all along. Yes, things are changing, companies needs changing too. But it was very big change ~ 180°

Old good times when the gem / crown store was not yet known. We paid for the contents. 2 years and 3 rich expansions (Cantha, Elona, Eye of the North).

Anet has shown to the world and the Blizzard that they can make a good game without a monthly fee, what worked for a while.

I'm sorry they left the GW1. I think I would play it today.

Kay1 · June 2017

When GW2 HoT became available, I had a stronger urge to buy the expansion than I do compared to ESO Morrowind

HoT had like 6 times more content, is like comparing a KIA with a Lamborghini, stupid poll and this is the ESO forums so people will mostly vote ESO.

Sylosi · June 2017

To be honest as far as expansions go neither of them compare well with what I consider good expansions (e.g - Mines of Moria in LOTRO), they both lack content, though eventually when GW2 actually got round to putting all the content out HoT had significantly more, but HoT also cost more. (but then paying for an expansion and having to wait nearly 2 years for things you paid for like legendary armour is ridiculous).

On the other hand I think some credit should go to ESO in that they didn't make warden OP to sell copies, where as GW2 powercreeped the hell out of the elite specs that got added with HoT.

They also have some similarities, for PvP it seems after both expansions the combat in both games hit an all-time-low, in ESO proc sets with no CP are just skilless cancer, and in GW2 they powercreeped the hell out of elite specs crushing what build diversity there was and lowered the skill floor by adding more passives, more skills that did too much with a single button press, added more boon spam, etc.

Essentially both games look like they tried to make combat easier for new players, but seemed clueless in how to do it in a way that didn't also impact combat for veteran players and make that combat significantly less fun and skilled. It is probably telling that both games lost veteran devs before these expansions came out.

P.S - What is the point of putting a poll like this on one of the game's sites, getting an objective view from most players of MMORPGs is well, difficult to say the least.

MLGProPlayer · June 2017

When ESO Morrowind became available, I had a stronger urge to buy the expansion than i do compared to GW2 HoT

Kay1 wrote: »

HoT had like 6 times more content, is like comparing a KIA with a Lamborghini, stupid poll and this is the ESO forums so people will mostly vote ESO.

No it didn't. It didn't even launch with any raids (they added those later). If you're saying it's 6x bigger because it had 6 maps, remember that GW2 maps are tiny (around the size of Hew's Bane/Gold Coast).

Lord_Kreegan · June 2017

Neither isn't an option? Should be.

Linaleah · June 2017

When ESO Morrowind became available, I had a stronger urge to buy the expansion than i do compared to GW2 HoT

I own both, but I waited until heart of thorns went on sale before buying it. Morrowind was preorder. why? my gaming priorities. HoT didn't sound like something I would enjoy and honestly having bought it and played some of it? its not. and i kinda regret buying it.

Morrowind fits my playstyle much MUCH better.

CherryCake · June 2017

When ESO Morrowind became available, I had a stronger urge to buy the expansion than i do compared to GW2 HoT

You ask that on an eso forum?.........

Edit: Used to play gw when I was younger, it was alright at the time, but it doesnt even compare to eso as to now. Not even the chat. Eso can still get funny and be alright, but I recently went on gw2 and asked a girl about what armor she has, had to listen to her blabing on and on about how she is a lesbian and for me to stay away from her gf. Ran right out of there xD.

Dont even get me started on the quality and looks of eso compared to gw2.

Costumes could be better though, come on Zeni. Tired of looking like a grandma, I want those corsets all the ladies are wearing in Morrowind!

MurderMostFoul · June 2017

When ESO Morrowind became available, I had a stronger urge to buy the expansion than i do compared to GW2 HoT

I really liked GW2 and played the hell out of it. sPvP might be the best format for MMO PvP I have ever played (all gear unlocked, only skill matters).

But I never bought HoT. I prefer console gaming these days, and ESO is the best pvp-MMO on console given the addition of BGs in MW.

faerigirl · June 2017

Silly poll is silly.

If you had asked which I liked better or had more content for the money or which did I work on longer.....

HoT was totally different, a lot more content, harder content and was new.

Morrowind was different because of much less content, way easier but had off the chart 'feels'.

andreasranasen · June 2017

When GW2 HoT became available, I had a stronger urge to buy the expansion than I do compared to ESO Morrowind

You can't compare ESO and Guild Wars.

Arenanet is a company who are truly passionate about what they do and is all about community.

Zenimax is all about money.

vyndral13preub18_ESO · June 2017

I don't know which was 'bigger'. But I certainly played HoT longer and found more things to do.

It was also interesting that when People complained on the GW2 forum about a new class and needing a new character slot, a new character slot was included with the purchase HoT.

We got slightly different results here...

Drachenfier · June 2017

When ESO Morrowind became available, I had a stronger urge to buy the expansion than i do compared to GW2 HoT

I play both ESO and GW2, I pre-ordered Morrowind, didn't buy HoT until about 4 months after release.

If that answers your question.

Talon_Draconis · June 2017

I haven't looked at GW2 for years I thought HOT wasn't a paid expatiation but a normal one like all the othes
That said it's 1/2 the price of morrowind.
The morrowind dlc should have been included with the sub or at least purchasable with crowns
While I feel all dlc is cash grab gw2 does not have a sub and all of their dlc up to hot was included the base price,
The only reason I don't play GW2 is I don;t like the world lore story.
The game mechanic ect are very good for mmo

I really love ESO but because of the way zmax screwed me over I am looking for the next great mmo or maybe going back single player games,

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Drachenfier · June 2017

When ESO Morrowind became available, I had a stronger urge to buy the expansion than i do compared to GW2 HoT

Talon_Draconis wrote: »

That said it's 1/2 the price of morrowind.

It is now....it was 40 bucks when it came out

Linaleah · June 2017

When ESO Morrowind became available, I had a stronger urge to buy the expansion than i do compared to GW2 HoT

Drachenfier wrote: »

Talon_Draconis wrote: »

That said it's 1/2 the price of morrowind.

It is now....it was 40 bucks when it came out

$60 actualy for baseline copy. they re-bundled it as a full game and there were no discounted upgrade options if you had an original game, unlike Morrowind (although they did make base game somewhat free. with limitations like fewer character slots, chat restrictions etc, but you could play the game as a NEW player without having to buy it, so I give them that). its $30 now becasue after almost 2 years after release, it was time to permanently reduce the price.

also, on free extra character slot. you only got one if you preordered OR if you bought deluxe or better edition.

qsnoopyjr · June 2017

When GW2 HoT became available, I had a stronger urge to buy the expansion than I do compared to ESO Morrowind

ChuckyPayne wrote: »

I left ESO when the guild left ESO, everybody tried different games (It was One year after the HoT release)

HoT to me feels much richer like ESO morrowind so much achievement so much thing to do, more then only 50 hour like here now. (Solo content+ solo achievements). But soon I had to find out that nobody was playing HoT, there everything are group content, but there are no players on HoT zones, even when there was a daily achievements. Most of the day I w8ing to see someone there, everybody plays on the new Living Story zones

So I finally left and came back to ESO. HoT there like here Craglorn 0 player. if you want to do everything (no trials just quests and zone quests, etc), you need premade groups, difficult to find anybody, not like world bosses in Wrothgar or in Morrowind.

But Imo HoT much better! Why?
- There is a Champion system too I forgot what is it name, but it is horizontal progress, no need whole game balance time after time, and the feeling you can unlock everything but here 630/3600 CP not the same feeling. I like much better horizontal progress.
- New system: Gliding. Interesting part, that was amazing, so much fun with daily mini games on HoT zones.
And 2 very awesome system that ANet did, respect, congratz.
- Chat servers, you can read all message after a character change or zone change, you don't miss any message during loading screens.
- Update, patch system. OMG this is huge, never a maintenance, and so small downloads, just download that is changed, and you can play during downloads.

But in vain the best update system that I'd ever seen, if the game is not so fun as ESO

If we ask a question for ZoS, what is mini games in ESO, they say. Open chest with lockpick, thievery, deer hunt with bow, collect plants.
If we ask the same from Anet they have a very different and much richer answer. That is missing to me here in ESO only one, just only one, but it very

In Eso there is some interesting mini game quest, but that is only quests and cant repeat, and yes no reason to repeat.
For example the racing, touch the checkpoints.

TL;DR. IMO ESO much better then GW2 but ANet did some very good system, fun content.

I agree with you on the minigames.
HoT has so much to do, like SAB for one thing, I found that extremely fun. Jumping puzzles, those speed run mini events, keg toss and the crab toss, when its holiday season in HoT, it feels like there is so much to do. Like year of the dragon too. And best of all, its easy to jump right into it, and its fun.

Meanwhile in ESO. I was around for some holiday event. To me, it felt like more quests to do, I'm already overloaded with quests, I'd like to have some fun mini events like you have in GW2, like wintersday tower defense, the jumping puzzle. snowball fight.

The nice thing about GW2, is its very easy to get back into the game. With ESO, my skills and champion points always seem to reset when I come back and rotations is a huge thing in ESO, and CP and skill set. I find that GW2 its a lot easier and faster to get set up than it is compared to ESO. Too many options in ESO and GW2 Meta Builds site I feel like is 10 times better than ESO meta build site, deltia.

GW2, its like all you need to do is a like 25 changes to get back into some build thats viable to play, and rotations isnt that difficult because its not DoT stacking DPS game like ESO, where you gotta memorize and button smash all them DoTs all day.

ESO on the other hand, its like 250 changes to back into some build thats viable to play. Time I get set up I'm pretty pooped.

qsnoopyjr · June 2017

When GW2 HoT became available, I had a stronger urge to buy the expansion than I do compared to ESO Morrowind

andreasranasen wrote: »

You can't compare ESO and Guild Wars.

Arenanet is a company who are truly passionate about what they do and is all about community.

Zenimax is all about money.

Ouch!

I agree though, because in GW2 you can buy gems/crowns with gold. In ESO, gotta pay $$.
The living story in GW2, free. ESO gotta pay the $$ or subscribe.

New AvA map in GW2 free. Couple new PvP maps in GW2 free.
The story in GW2? I actually pay attention to and can recall.
The story in ESO? All I remember is manimarco did something bad and has to be stopped. Hardly recall doing anything with Lydia.
But in GW2, the dragons taking over, rtylock, kasimir, all those characters even if I dont remember name I remember what they look like and sound like because as you said, they are passionate with their work and you can tell from going through those storylines. Also with the jumping puzzle and the 8 bit Super Adventure Box.

The alliance war in ESO? Havent got a clue whats going on, too many narratives, dont even remember how each narrative ends. And how can they progress with all these different narratives? Adding completely outta nowhere content like Morrowind? GW2 it at least progresses in a story like fashion.

I made this poll because when GW2 came out I was hyped, but Morrowind. I'm just not feeling it, even though Morrowind is the best Elder Scrolls Game. The price its at too, isnt anymore convincing. $59.99. Gimme a break.

WoW Legion is $39.99
GW2 HoT, I cannot rememeber but I dont think it was some $59.99, I think it was $39.99.

Basically, I have no urge to get ESO Morrowind, the price doesnt help, there was no buildup too it, theres really no connection from the game to connect it with ESO Morrowind, (think of GW2 and connection to GW2 HoT).

To me, it just feels like outta nowhere expansion, really nothing too it but basic MMORPG expansion stuff, new zone, new monsters, new class. And they slap on $59.99 cuz like you mentioned, they all about the money, and not really that passionate about the game, otherwise they would have connected the ESO game, with the ESO:Morrowind, like how GW2 did with living story into GW2: HoT

Xylphan · June 2017

When ESO Morrowind became available, I had a stronger urge to buy the expansion than i do compared to GW2 HoT

Valkysas154 wrote: »

HOT did not have a huge following like MW did so MW hands down
That don't mean ether was good for the game tho at lest in gw2 there was char progression and every one got new skills in MW every one got nerfed

and HOT is why i quit gw2 and been playing ESO since. HOT felt like it went against every thing gw2 was
i lasted 3 months after HOT i feel like i will still be playing eso for a long time will just be more careful in buying junk dlc disguised as a expansion at full price

100% agree. HoT is what drove me away from GW2. I'm not even sure what they were thinking. I was in a large popular guild there, and in the span of a couple of months it had emptied and disbanded. It had that effect on a lot of players. The forum rage was real, especially from those loyal players who bought the expansion thinking it would build upon traditional GW2 gameplay. Instead they got something along the lines of what you'd get if you took the old version of ESO's Craglorn and it had an unholy b*stard love child with Super Mario Brothers. Yeah, tons of not-fun.

asuitandtyb14_ESO · June 2017

When GW2 HoT became available, I had a stronger urge to buy the expansion than I do compared to ESO Morrowind

qsnoopyjr wrote: »

andreasranasen wrote: »

You can't compare ESO and Guild Wars.

Arenanet is a company who are truly passionate about what they do and is all about community.

Zenimax is all about money.

Ouch!

I agree though, because in GW2 you can buy gems/crowns with gold. In ESO, gotta pay $$.
The living story in GW2, free. ESO gotta pay the $$ or subscribe.

New AvA map in GW2 free. Couple new PvP maps in GW2 free.
The story in GW2? I actually pay attention to and can recall.
The story in ESO? All I remember is manimarco did something bad and has to be stopped. Hardly recall doing anything with Lydia.
But in GW2, the dragons taking over, rtylock, kasimir, all those characters even if I dont remember name I remember what they look like and sound like because as you said, they are passionate with their work and you can tell from going through those storylines. Also with the jumping puzzle and the 8 bit Super Adventure Box.

The alliance war in ESO? Havent got a clue whats going on, too many narratives, dont even remember how each narrative ends. And how can they progress with all these different narratives? Adding completely outta nowhere content like Morrowind? GW2 it at least progresses in a story like fashion.

I made this poll because when GW2 came out I was hyped, but Morrowind. I'm just not feeling it, even though Morrowind is the best Elder Scrolls Game. The price its at too, isnt anymore convincing. $59.99. Gimme a break.

WoW Legion is $39.99
GW2 HoT, I cannot rememeber but I dont think it was some $59.99, I think it was $39.99.

Basically, I have no urge to get ESO Morrowind, the price doesnt help, there was no buildup too it, theres really no connection from the game to connect it with ESO Morrowind, (think of GW2 and connection to GW2 HoT).

To me, it just feels like outta nowhere expansion, really nothing too it but basic MMORPG expansion stuff, new zone, new monsters, new class. And they slap on $59.99 cuz like you mentioned, they all about the money, and not really that passionate about the game, otherwise they would have connected the ESO game, with the ESO:Morrowind, like how GW2 did with living story into GW2: HoT

Bro, I get you. You speak my language.