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BGS needs a rank lock

mr1sho
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I'm not trying to sound like a elitist but it's very frustrating to queue up to BGS to have your teammates be lvl 20s js I don't think BGS should be accessible until after rank 50
Edited by mr1sho on June 19, 2017 5:17PM
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  • leepalmer95
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    They should of released it with the 1-50 and the cp+ queues like they said.

    I agree, its not 'elitist' but it is annoying playing a deathmatch with a noob feeding the enemy team.

    Its not even the noobs fault either they're likely new players and stumbled across the battlegrounds quest in morrowind and decided to try and complete it. Honestly bg's is likely causing a lot of these new players to not even bother with pvp after they get stomped because they're queued with max level end game pvpers.

    Its stupid design and should of never been released like that, its quite the oversight by zos.
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  • KochDerDamonen
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    I think they need to toss everyone together to see if they can even get the thing to work before they start divvying up the queues :p
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  • s7732425ub17_ESO
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    Needs an MMR system with visible ranking on the scoreboards.
  • nick_dean14
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    With battle levelling and no CP, barring people based on level is pointless. Yes, new players may have less knowledge and experience, but equally, that level 20 may be the 10th toon for a player that has won emp on their 9 previous characters.

    Equally, why should a new player that has paid for morrowind be prohibited from playing the battleground PvP content they want to play until they've grinded through PvE content to reach an arbitrary level that other players deem acceptable? What is needed is a way to gate top level coordinated groups from being thrown together with random low level newbies or PUGs, so players learning to play can practice and improve against similar level players without getting curb-stomped by pro's, and the pro's get worthwhile competition. That way you know that if you're grouped with a 'lowly' level 20, you know they're basically just as good as you are.
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  • KingYogi415
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    1-49 should never play any1 CP 160+.

    Honestly i'd like to see someone blamed for making these choices for the game then fired.
  • LMar
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    This actually appears to be a bug since the Battegrounds Basics Guide on the ESO website states that

    "You can queue solo or as a member of a party, and you are able to specify a desired level range (10-49 or 10-50) with the game type randomly determined"
    Edited by LMar on June 19, 2017 6:13PM
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  • Sallington
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    They should of released it with the 1-50 and the cp+ queues like they said.

    I agree, its not 'elitist' but it is annoying playing a deathmatch with a noob feeding the enemy team.

    Its not even the noobs fault either they're likely new players and stumbled across the battlegrounds quest in morrowind and decided to try and complete it. Honestly bg's is likely causing a lot of these new players to not even bother with pvp after they get stomped because they're queued with max level end game pvpers.

    Its stupid design and should of never been released like that, its quite the oversight by zos.

    This is spot on I think. Not having ANY type of barrier between a fresh level 10 who's never PvP'd before, and a Grand Warlord is so asinine. How that went live I have no idea. That's not even considering the Grand Warlord is probably part of a premade team as well...
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  • NordJitsu
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    LMar wrote: »
    This actually appears to be a bug since the Battegrounds Basics Guide on the ESO website states that

    "You can queue solo or as a member of a party, and you are able to specify a desired level range (10-49 or 10-50) with the game type randomly determined"

    It has to be. In the top right it tells you which of these Ques you're in, but CP160+ players seem to be able to access 10-49.
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  • Ihatenightblades
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    If u are not cp160 stay out of vet dungeons and bg period. Go grind or something
  • KeiruNicrom
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    The BGs and Morrowind in general are too young to split the possible population without ruining the experience for one group or another entirely. Give it a few months of people buying the chapter and newer players getting into the game. Eventually there will (hopefully) be enough people that ZOS can split up the queues by 1-50 non cp and 50 with cp. Either that or split the game types into different queues
  • s7732425ub17_ESO
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    I have actually talked to a lot of players that have the view that battlegrounds is just not for them. This is because they are fighting against PVPers who have played thousands of hours, and they've never done PVP before at all. This is a great way to kill the already low PVP population.
  • Asardes
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    Level is not that relevant since:
    1) Low level players have a stat bonus and/or
    2) They could be in fact very experienced players running on a low level alt.
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  • DeadlyRecluse
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    Asardes wrote: »
    Level is not that relevant since:
    1) Low level players have a stat bonus and/or
    2) They could be in fact very experienced players running on a low level alt.

    Yeah, tbh I'm a lot more comfortable with a level 20 in group than someone with CP between 10 and 200.
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  • Asardes
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    Asardes wrote: »
    Level is not that relevant since:
    1) Low level players have a stat bonus and/or
    2) They could be in fact very experienced players running on a low level alt.

    Yeah, tbh I'm a lot more comfortable with a level 20 in group than someone with CP between 10 and 200.

    If you don't like randoms then you should queue with a premade group made of players that are as or more experienced than you.
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  • NordJitsu
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    Asardes wrote: »
    Level is not that relevant since:
    1) Low level players have a stat bonus and/or
    2) They could be in fact very experienced players running on a low level alt.

    Nonsense. The CP160 Gear alone is an nearly insurmountable advantage if the players are anywhere close to the same skill level. That's not to mention skill morphs and resource allocations. Battle leveling allocates your resources horribly and your core skills like Spell damage, regen, crit, etc are way out of whack.

    The only CP160 character losing to a level 20 player is a truly awful player. As long as you've achieved basic competency in the game, there's about a 0.00001% chance you're losing that fight.
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  • Drachenfier
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    mr1sho wrote: »
    I'm not trying to sound like a elitist but it's very frustrating to queue up to BGS to have your teammates be lvl 20s js I don't think BGS should be accessible until after rank 50

    No, they just need a 10-49 bracket.
  • Mitoice
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    Dammit... at least you are able.to play... I keep getting the someone declined your invitation for hours without getting to a BG... i wish i could play even if its with 3 lvl 10 players.....

    Morrowind sucks!! 40 bucks down the drain...

    They are not going to get me next chapter....
  • mr1sho
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    Mitoice wrote: »
    Dammit... at least you are able.to play... I keep getting the someone declined your invitation for hours without getting to a BG... i wish i could play even if its with 3 lvl 10 players.....

    Morrowind sucks!! 40 bucks down the drain...

    They are not going to get me next chapter....

    Idk what they did but the queue has been broken this whole week
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