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vMoL Exploit... AGAIN...
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raj72616a✭✭✭✭✭since the exploit still isnt fixed anyway, please add back levitation to the twilight momento? @ZOS_GinaBruno4 -
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✭✭OutLaw_Nynx wrote: »Stop trying to get off the map
It's a very human thing to try and break something and make it easier / cheat it. It is the job of the developers to ensure that it isn't possible. Asking people not to try and exploit, is trying to repress a very human trait and won't get you anywhere.
It is very true, Human kind has it embedded in it's very nature to try and do things the easy way, and in all fairness. It's just a video game and there is no harm done. Sometimes the way the internet works and forum beings are it seems worse to cheat on a video game than to lie to a nation, rob, cheat and steal in real life.
Some of the hate you see in zone chat is unreal over stuff like this, like the world is going to end and martial law should be enforced.
Personally Maw gear is old news, this exploit has been out for yonks now, June last year it was 1st discovered but not made mainstream until earlier this year, the majority of cheaters have well and truly had their fill and moved on...
Plus I'm sure if VMA had an exploit like this it wouldn't be an issue, I'd of loved to have just been able to farm the boss over and over and over and over for the weapons and not sit through 45mins of boring tedious crap to get a charged mace. In a way this cheating culture we are having is brought on by such a poor implementation of obtaining desirable gear to the point it becomes boring. Zos say it's to maintain "longevity" but it does the exact opposite, people get bored of running the same crap over and over just to get a weapon that has a 1/200 chance of dropping they look to the easiest option so...they can actually get to the fun stuff.
for instance, I'll own up, I rinsed Vmol over and over for the chests with a group of 12 sorcs...only 3 sharp MD Staves dropped in no less than well.... 5 chests to be farmed...12 people so 60 chests per farm...we lost count but we went in and did it over 50 times in a day and that's 3000 chests alone and only 3 of these dropped...Been there and done the content, got old and boring. Why would anyone want to suffer running it spending it 45mins a run on a good day for the same odds bar the drop from Rhakkat? No thanks. Also from a former console point of view...they didn't have the latter option for 4 months and another 2 months last year...Again this is brought on in parts by ZOS.PC Master Race
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✭✭✭✭✭So this explains why I've seen a few CP200-400 Dromathra Destroyers. Let alone with the skin. Hmmm... I wonder how much longer we have until we hear about how ZOS decided to suspend these player's accounts for 3 days, but allow them to keep their: Loot, skin, and title.
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✭Sadly this will continue to happen no matter how much ZOS patch the game and each issue.
There are a lot of people with the mentality in the game to abuse every issue they find for advantage, and ZOS hasn't done a very good job of enforcing that it's bad.
Z0$ have shown they are incompetent at making exploit free content. They hardly enforce exploiting and cheating. Add these together and yes it will encourage people to try these things.
Still doesn't change the Z0$ team are incapable of coding ESO to any decent standard. Every title and achievement has been exploited, multiple times.2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Sadly this will continue to happen no matter how much ZOS patch the game and each issue.
There are a lot of people with the mentality in the game to abuse every issue they find for advantage, and ZOS hasn't done a very good job of enforcing that it's bad.
Z0$ have shown they are incompetent at making exploit free content. They hardly enforce exploiting and cheating. Add these together and yes it will encourage people to try these things.
Still doesn't change the Z0$ team are incapable of coding ESO to any decent standard. Every title and achievement has been exploited, multiple times.
N'aaaah. Like I said. They will suspend the exploiter's accounts for 3 days, but allow them to keep the: Loot, skins, and titles. And if they do choose to ban them for good, it won't be an IP or system ban. Players will be able to go and buy a new account that is max level, and carry on. This is what a lot of players do on PS4-NA who get permanently banned. They simply buy another account off someone who quit the game, or is quitting.0 -
AlcastClass RepresentativeDRXHarbinger wrote: »DRXHarbinger wrote: »No one else found the glitch to get through the walls on HOF yet...GG glitchers. Vmol farm is old news. Far more beneficial glitches to be had right now. And no Harbinger shares with no one anymore.
I've always been great at finding ways to escape maps. Would it be worth trying to do this in Halls of Fabrication before someone else does?
The purpose of this would be to report how to escape HoF in order to prevent another disaster like what happened in vMoL. I just question if ZOS would care/respond if such an exploit was found though.
I'll be pretty angry if HoF gets exploited like MoL did.
If ppl know ways to get out of map, send the info to @ZOS_Finn viq private message
@DRXHarbinger
I have already pinged a ticket over with video. Guild mate discovered it by accident and naturally curiosity followed. It took 12 people a good 6hrs solid to navigate around it and it is unlikely it'll be found anytime soon. We have all our staves already (legitimately too rng was kind) so it's not being rinsed.
As for the vMoL thing. Surely it isn't hard to just make a kill zone all around the pathways that were intended rather than this add a wall here and there.
You have good faith in humanity hehe. People talk. Most likely the info is already spreading. Lets hope they do smth soon. Did you send video directly to @ZOS_Finn ?https://alcasthq.com - Alcasthq.com Builds & Guides
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✭IMO the issue on MOL can easily be perma fixed, however its up to ZOS if they want to do a band aid fix (Like disabling mounts or invisible walls) or do the right thing.
My solution would be to make the door lock mechanism (the one that prevents you from advancing to the next room without killing the boss/ads) work both ways, so that you cant skip the trial and come opening the doors from "inside". This alone would kill chest farming.
To avoid Rakkhat room cheese, just make the trigger for the dialog and wall break tied to the opening of the door, rather than entering the zone, this would avoid all exploits since ppl wouldnt be able to break the walls without going through the content.
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DjMuscleboy02✭✭✭✭✭Please don't fix this by breaking the trial again. I would rather there be this stupid exploit if it means we can't play the trial for another 4 months.Brodor - PC NA - ESO's only pure bodybuilding guild
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✭No surprise, ZOS just seems to have to much of a laid-back attitude when comes to cheating and exploiting, one reason I just play the basic pve game these days. While I wait on another game.2 -
Erraln✭✭✭✭✭Honestly, there were about 50 routes off the map when it was on PTS last year. Reported all I could find. They cut a lot of them by fixing the resurrect placement logic, some more when horses were disabled, some more when they installed more death and teleport tiles, etc... But then they gave players new mobility tools.
Once I would have said 'put a wall here and be done', but that'd just slow people down at this point.Edited by Erraln on June 19, 2017 12:55PM1 -
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✭DjMuscleboy02 wrote: »Please don't fix this by breaking the trial again. I would rather there be this stupid exploit if it means we can't play the trial for another 4 months.
This
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✭✭✭Another bug to bypass things and now it is posted on the forums for all to know about .....
All you did was let everyone on the forums know about it, not solve the issue .....
You should of done this thru tech support and not the forums .....
At this point, whatever. This is the third or fourth time you're able to exploit vMoL. It's absolutely ridiculous how the the developers of this game aren't competent enough to fix anything. And it proves my point that they just slap bandaid fixes on everything.#VMATOKENSYSTEM #WEAPONDYE #TRAITCHANGE #CROWNCRATELOVER- Alliance/Platform: Aldemerii - PS4/NA - CP 800+
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Moglijuana✭✭✭✭✭So this explains why I've seen a few CP200-400 Dromathra Destroyers. Let alone with the skin. Hmmm... I wonder how much longer we have until we hear about how ZOS decided to suspend these player's accounts for 3 days, but allow them to keep their: Loot, skin, and title.
You dont get the skin/title if you exploit VMOL. Those low CP's just got carried. l2getcarried.8 -
Ch4mpTW✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Moglijuana wrote: »So this explains why I've seen a few CP200-400 Dromathra Destroyers. Let alone with the skin. Hmmm... I wonder how much longer we have until we hear about how ZOS decided to suspend these player's accounts for 3 days, but allow them to keep their: Loot, skin, and title.
You dont get the skin/title if you exploit VMOL. Those low CP's just got carried. l2getcarried.
Lmao. I don't know if I should give you an insightful or awesome. I'll go with the insightful, as that probably will go further. Thanks for that bit for information. I suppose it's true that you learn something new everyday.
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Moglijuana✭✭✭✭✭Moglijuana wrote: »So this explains why I've seen a few CP200-400 Dromathra Destroyers. Let alone with the skin. Hmmm... I wonder how much longer we have until we hear about how ZOS decided to suspend these player's accounts for 3 days, but allow them to keep their: Loot, skin, and title.
You dont get the skin/title if you exploit VMOL. Those low CP's just got carried. l2getcarried.
Lmao. I don't know if I should give you an insightful or awesome. I'll go with the insightful, as that probably will go further. Thanks for that bit for information. I suppose it's true that you learn something new everyday.
For the record I've never exploited VMOL bc I could care less about the sh*t pve in this game. I just know ppl who have and they have not received the skin/title.0 -
LiquidPony✭✭✭✭✭
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oF4cCTXxSts
So THATS what the "Cheese" was, wow. I assumed at most the Boss would react but attacks couldn't reach you or something, didn't think the Boss just stood there and took it.
Damn, why console plebs are always exploiting? ><
Because MoL was unplayable on console for about 8 of the past 12 months?
People want the gear in there and ZOS took their sweet ass time delivering a fix.
Can't really blame them.1 -
Voxicity✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Moglijuana wrote: »Moglijuana wrote: »So this explains why I've seen a few CP200-400 Dromathra Destroyers. Let alone with the skin. Hmmm... I wonder how much longer we have until we hear about how ZOS decided to suspend these player's accounts for 3 days, but allow them to keep their: Loot, skin, and title.
You dont get the skin/title if you exploit VMOL. Those low CP's just got carried. l2getcarried.
Lmao. I don't know if I should give you an insightful or awesome. I'll go with the insightful, as that probably will go further. Thanks for that bit for information. I suppose it's true that you learn something new everyday.
For the record I've never exploited VMOL bc I could care less about the sh*t pve in this game. I just know ppl who have and they have not received the skin/title.
Technically you can exploit it and get the skin/a couple of the title achievements but it's not something you can do alone in a brand new instance. So yeah you're right, a person alone can't get the skin or title by exploiting it2 -
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✭✭✭Everyone here is acting all noble and heroic but are you telling me not one person who's commented has done it or is doing it?2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭rafaelcsmaia wrote: »IMO the issue on MOL can easily be perma fixed, however its up to ZOS if they want to do a band aid fix (Like disabling mounts or invisible walls) or do the right thing.
My solution would be to make the door lock mechanism (the one that prevents you from advancing to the next room without killing the boss/ads) work both ways, so that you cant skip the trial and come opening the doors from "inside". This alone would kill chest farming.
To avoid Rakkhat room cheese, just make the trigger for the dialog and wall break tied to the opening of the door, rather than entering the zone, this would avoid all exploits since ppl wouldnt be able to break the walls without going through the content.
Will they listen? Probably not
This.
But hey, your suggestions actually make sense... ZOS will never listen.
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Ch4mpTW✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Everyone here is acting all noble and heroic but are you telling me not one person who's commented has done it or is doing it?
@mb10 Deadass! You always are talking straight facts. Lmao. People out here "discovering" new things, and acting like upon finding it that they didn't reap the rewards lowkey a few times before turning in their findings of what was exploitable.
They were probably like, "Hmmm... I think we found ourselves something here. Aye, are you streaming? If you're streaming or recording, cut that off real quick. Let's 'experiment' a bit, and see what's really going on. Then after a little bit of dabbling here and there we'll submit a ticket of this and that being exploitable. It beats doing this crap from start to finish a few hours to get some gear."1 -
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Escaping the map is something I do for fun on like every zone in Tamriel. Maw of Lorkhaj has an awesome area to explore but I wouldn't dare do it thanks to this exploit
Whenever I try to find ways outside the bounds it always seems impossible. Invisible walls are EVERYWHERE. The Gold Coast especially, I tried so hard to see what was on the other side of Varen's Wall.
@ArchMikem The Gold Coast is the only zone (besides Cyrodii which I avoid, and the island zones lol) that I have yet to escape. There IS a way though to get past Varen's Wall. You need Werewolf+Pheonix to cross the long river - I have seen a video of someone doing it. His Youtube is "Sharmony".Edited by Vaoh on June 19, 2017 3:26PM2 -
mb10✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Everyone here is acting all noble and heroic but are you telling me not one person who's commented has done it or is doing it?
@mb10 Deadass! You always are talking straight facts. Lmao. People out here "discovering" new things, and acting like upon finding it that they didn't reap the rewards lowkey a few times before turning in their findings of what was exploitable.
They were probably like, "Hmmm... I think we found ourselves something here. Aye, are you streaming? If you're streaming or recording, cut that off real quick. Let's 'experiment' a bit, and see what's really going on. Then after a little bit of dabbling here and there we'll submit a ticket of this and that being exploitable. It beats doing this crap from start to finish a few hours to get some gear."
@Ch4mpTW LOL 100% Im glad im not the only one who knows (not thinks) whats happening.0 -
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✭The funniest part about them patching the out of map glitches is that they implemented it so poorly. Their are tons of spots within the trial that if you simply walk up to them you get ported out of MoL. Take a right at as you spawn in and go over by the tent/tree just right of the spawn point, enjoy your free wayshrine trip out of the trial. Spots like this are littered all over the trial. It sucks pretty bad when you are in combat and you or a teammate accidentally gets to close to one of these areas. These combined with the spots to guarantee you DC if you go within them make this simply not fun to run.0 -
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Escaping the map is something I do for fun on like every zone in Tamriel. Maw of Lorkhaj has an awesome area to explore but I wouldn't dare do it thanks to this exploit
Whenever I try to find ways outside the bounds it always seems impossible. Invisible walls are EVERYWHERE. The Gold Coast especially, I tried so hard to see what was on the other side of Varen's Wall.
@ArchMikem The Gold Coast is the only zone (besides Cyrodii which I avoid, and the island zones lol) that I have yet to escape. There IS a way though to get past Varen's Wall. You need Werewolf+Pheonix to cross the long river - I have seen a video of someone doing it. His Youtube is "Sharmony".
I swam all the way to Solstheim.. or more to the point where Solstheim should be...there is a tiny platform you can get on and if you go over the other side of it you fall into Oblivion
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