cliff racer needs to be reflected

scipionumatia · June 2017

both morphs need to be able to be reflected by dk scales, and the mag morph needs to be reflected by defensive posture from 1h+s skill tree. I don't have a warden leveled yet but I'm assuming the warden reflect ability doesn't reflect it either. if someone could put some insight on the warden reflective skill id appreciate it.

Minno · June 2017

How do you reflect a thinking/living animal?

scipionumatia · June 2017

its a projectile, should be reflected
and you smack it so hard with your scales back to its owner that PETA files a petition

DeadlyRecluse · June 2017

I think it would make more sense for it to be dodgeable than reflectable.

NBrookus · June 2017

It needs something. It's a projectile. It should be reflectable and dodgable. Since hardly anything can be reflected anymore, if it one gets one reflect would be my choice. Don't tell me dragon wings can't smack down a puny little cliff racer.

Prioritizing the pretty animation over actual gameplay was a very poor choice.

Kilandros · June 2017

DeadlyRecluse wrote: »

I think it would make more sense for it to be dodgeable than reflectable.

Why would that make more sense?

Sigtric · June 2017

Wrobel actually said on ESO live it can't be reflected basically because (and I'm paraphrasing here) "who can reflect a bird?"

Amazing how reality is accepted when it's needed and thrown out when it's not.

This skill, especially when there's more than one enemy warden, is way too good. I've taken to calling it the Noob Missile.

It should be dodgeable.

Kalebron · June 2017

scipionumatia wrote: »

both morphs need to be able to be reflected by dk scales, and the mag morph needs to be reflected by defensive posture from 1h+s skill tree. I don't have a warden leveled yet but I'm assuming the warden reflect ability doesn't reflect it either. if someone could put some insight on the warden reflective skill id appreciate it.

It won't matter because it can be cast multiple times so you will get hit with multiple ones before being able to cast it back to the person.

Hippie4927 · June 2017

Total Dark (templar skill) won't reflect it?

scipionumatia · June 2017

when you got 4 wardens spamming it

Kalebron wrote: »

scipionumatia wrote: »

both morphs need to be able to be reflected by dk scales, and the mag morph needs to be reflected by defensive posture from 1h+s skill tree. I don't have a warden leveled yet but I'm assuming the warden reflect ability doesn't reflect it either. if someone could put some insight on the warden reflective skill id appreciate it.

It won't matter because it can be cast multiple times so you will get hit with multiple ones before being able to cast it back to the person.

Not if you keep reflect up during combat. I do

scipionumatia · June 2017

Hippie4927 wrote: »

Total Dark (templar skill) won't reflect it?

I'm not sure, id like to know that as well. I don't play magplar in pvp

artal · June 2017

I was already crying about this skill. Its super annoying and silly.
You peek around corner and there is 5 cliff racers diving on you. Blocking is not really option if outnumbered, at least not for longer period.
It need something, and since its so easy spamable, huge range and good dmg it should probably be dodgable and reflectable.
But at least make it one of the two.
If being pet will rise issues with some people about being reflected than make it possible to dodge.

Waffennacht · June 2017

scipionumatia wrote: »

Hippie4927 wrote: »

Total Dark (templar skill) won't reflect it?

I'm not sure, id like to know that as well. I don't play magplar in pvp

It's hard to tell because once your opponent gets CC'd by something else they can CC break eliminating the eclipse

Xvorg · June 2017

Almost all my death recaps have at least one racer... but the "it is slow" argument, won the discusion in PTS.

Make it dodgeable but give it a stun or a knock back or even splash dmg and we are OK.

scipionumatia · June 2017

Xvorg wrote: »

Almost all my death recaps have at least one racer... but the "it is slow" argument, won the discusion in PTS.

Make it dodgeable but give it a stun or a knock back or even splash dmg and we are OK.

I agree with ya, the stam morph should have an additional effect aside from "oh it costs stam now", mag morph is fine with extra damage at range. but regardless, still should be reflected and/or dodgeable. id prefer reflect

Chilly-McFreeze · June 2017

Being reflectible wont do any good to someone who happens to not be a dk/ templar or snb user. Therefore I go with dodge.

Xvorg · June 2017

Chilly-McFreeze wrote: »

Being reflectible wont do any good to someone who happens to not be a dk/ templar or snb user. Therefore I go with dodge.

I like both

scipionumatia · June 2017

Chilly-McFreeze wrote: »

Being reflectible wont do any good to someone who happens to not be a dk/ templar or snb user. Therefore I go with dodge.

Nb have cloak, cliff racer doesn't pull out of cloak. Sorcs have shields. I suppose if your stam sorc that would suck tho

Chilly-McFreeze · June 2017

scipionumatia wrote: »

Chilly-McFreeze wrote: »

Being reflectible wont do any good to someone who happens to not be a dk/ templar or snb user. Therefore I go with dodge.

Nb have cloak, cliff racer doesn't pull out of cloak. Sorcs have shields. I suppose if your stam sorc that would suck tho

If a warden casts a cliff racer, the nb cloaks during the travel time, does it cause the cliff racer to miss or will it pull the nb out of stealth?

C0ndor · June 2017

Chilly-McFreeze wrote: »

scipionumatia wrote: »

Chilly-McFreeze wrote: »

Being reflectible wont do any good to someone who happens to not be a dk/ templar or snb user. Therefore I go with dodge.

Nb have cloak, cliff racer doesn't pull out of cloak. Sorcs have shields. I suppose if your stam sorc that would suck tho

If a warden casts a cliff racer, the nb cloaks during the travel time, does it cause the cliff racer to miss or will it pull the nb out of stealth?

Miss

br0steen · June 2017

Xvorg wrote: »

Almost all my death recaps have at least one racer... but the "it is slow" argument, won the discusion in PTS.

Make it dodgeable but give it a stun or a knock back or even splash dmg and we are OK.

There it is, the ol "I see it in my death recap alot so its op!!" Arguement, love it.

It's only op if you're outnumbered so.... Nerf xv1ing? Or better yet, bring back dynamic ult!!!

Remeber like a month ago when people were upset at trying to fight 1 player with 4 other people and heavy armor, shields, and resource managment was way too powerful? And now there's a move that is a strong hard counter to somebody fighting outnumbered, and you people are upset. This player base is so hard to please sometimes lol.

NBrookus · June 2017

There were already hard counters to fighting someone, no matter how tanky, when you outnumber them. It's called having more damage and more heals, and if all else fails, you can safely walk away.

Joy_Division · June 2017

Sigtric wrote: »

Wrobel actually said on ESO live it can't be reflected basically because (and I'm paraphrasing here) "who can reflect a bird?"

Apparently not the people who have no difficulties reflecting arrows from longbow and magical fireballs from staves.

Countcalorie · June 2017

making it dodgeable would kill magwardens in pvp.besides the class is allready utter crap why make it worse?

apostate9 · June 2017

scipionumatia wrote: »

both morphs need to be able to be reflected by dk scales, and the mag morph needs to be reflected by defensive posture from 1h+s skill tree. I don't have a warden leveled yet but I'm assuming the warden reflect ability doesn't reflect it either. if someone could put some insight on the warden reflective skill id appreciate it.

No.

TheBonesXXX · June 2017

You do realized it would kill stam Wardens right? A telegraphed shalked + dodgeable bird and there would be no stam warden.. not one other classes abilities perform at a much more optimal level.

J18696 · June 2017

Makes no sense for it tobe reflected its a summoned animal that attacks the target should be dodgeable

[Deleted User] · June 2017

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