Why a 18 cert?

Deadfinger6
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I don't get why it's rated to adult. Yes there's killing, a bit of horror but no where near Witcher or a COD game. There's not even any *** *** or *** in the dialogue.
Edited by Deadfinger6 on June 14, 2017 9:18PM

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  • Zalicius
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    Edited by Zalicius on June 14, 2017 9:28PM
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  • max_only
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  • JasonSilverSpring
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    Well, the ESRB rating on the product states:

    Blood and Gore
    Sexual Themes
    Use of Alcohol
    Violence

    Not sure if that is only used in USA or elsewhere, but I suspect the blood and gore is the main contributor. The sexual themes are definitely very tame compared to Witcher for sure.
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  • Minalan
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    Have you read a single zone chat lately?

    Yeah...
  • Danikat
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    I think it's mainly because you can kill an innocent person with absolutely no consequences - if you're careful not to be seen or you escape the guards.

    It was 16+ before the Justice System was added.
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  • Danksta
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    Does it really matter? I've been buying adult rated games since I was 13, do people ever card for video games?
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  • Deadfinger6
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    Cheers all good answers....I kind of forgot about the torture of souls and piles of bodies.
  • Danikat
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    Well, the ESRB rating on the product states:

    Blood and Gore
    Sexual Themes
    Use of Alcohol
    Violence

    Not sure if that is only used in USA or elsewhere, but I suspect the blood and gore is the main contributor. The sexual themes are definitely very tame compared to Witcher for sure.

    ESRB is North America's rating system. There are a variety of others around the world. Usually they give fairly similar ratings (with some variation - for example ESRB's M and AO ratings are merged into a single 18+ rating in Europe).
    Edited by Danikat on June 14, 2017 9:28PM
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  • Deadfinger6
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    It just annoys that a cert 18 seems to curb away from themes of sex and swearing (maybe a theme to Witcher success)
  • Megabear
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    If only 18 cert kept out players that do not meet the age criteria, physically and/or mentally.
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  • KochDerDamonen
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    Danksta wrote: »
    Does it really matter? I've been buying adult rated games since I was 13, do people ever card for video games?

    @Danksta IIRC they don't have to card for it, at least in my state I don't recall there ever being any legislation relating to ESRB ratings. Some stores might do it of their own accord, but it's just a recommendation to help parents deciding what they'd like their kids to see.
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    Because skooma.
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  • Danksta
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    Danksta wrote: »
    Does it really matter? I've been buying adult rated games since I was 13, do people ever card for video games?

    @Danksta IIRC they don't have to card for it, at least in my state I don't recall there ever being any legislation relating to ESRB ratings. Some stores might do it of their own accord, but it's just a recommendation to help parents deciding what they'd like their kids to see.

    That's right, now that you mention it I do remember something about it just being a recommendation.
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  • Danikat
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    Danksta wrote: »
    Does it really matter? I've been buying adult rated games since I was 13, do people ever card for video games?

    @Danksta IIRC they don't have to card for it, at least in my state I don't recall there ever being any legislation relating to ESRB ratings. Some stores might do it of their own accord, but it's just a recommendation to help parents deciding what they'd like their kids to see.

    In some places it's actually a legal requirement. In the UK it's treated pretty much the same as selling alcohol or cigarettes - if you suspect the customer is under age you have to ask for ID, if you know they're under age or they can't provide ID you should refuse the sale and if you're caught selling to someone who is under age you can be fined.

    Of course the system isn't fool-proof. The biggest flaw is parents whose attitude is that "it's just a game" and nothing in it can possibly have any impact on their child in any way. (Although you can probably guess who gets the blame when little Timmy can't sleep because the 18+ survival horror game mummy bought for him gave him nightmares. Or when little Timmy bought a subscription game and used mummy's credit card to register it.)
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  • Zalicius
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    It just annoys that a cert 18 seems to curb away from themes of sex and swearing (maybe a theme to Witcher success)

    Well, I'm guessing you've never been downstairs in the Ebony Flask in Ebonheart.
  • max_only
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    Well there are sex workers in this game. Even BDSM sex workers. The player can even choose to pretend to be one in order to get close to a target that needs to die. And then there is Molag Bal's spear and how he uses it on Vivec (consensual) and Lamae Bal (nonconsenual).

    It seems like Nirn isn't too concerned with scandalous sexuality when they've got worm holes into realms of torture opening up in their houses and weird bored gods meddling with every last thing. ;) Most of the time it's played for laughs (lusty argonian maid) or a quick way to establish motive (avenge wife's death, betray husband, lost fiancé, etc).
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  • Danikat
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    Interesting. I just looked up the PEGI (European) rating for the game and apparently the only thing they object to is violence.

    http://www.pegi.info/en/index/global_id/505/?searchString=Elder+Scrolls+Online&agecategories=&genre=&organisations=&platforms=&countries=&submit=Search

    "The content of this game is suitable for persons aged 18 years and over only. It contains: Multiple, motiveless killing - Violence towards defenceless people."

    They have categories for sex, drug/alcohol use, discrimination and gambling (amongst other things) but apparently all references to those are considered too mild to justify a warning.

    I guess that's another way ratings systems are different between countries. It seems like the North American one has a much longer list of objections.
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  • Tryxus
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    There's Skooma
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    Strong Language, mostly Dunmer (Fetcher, N'wah, S'wit,...)
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    Edited by Tryxus on June 14, 2017 9:58PM
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  • Deadfinger6
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    Zalicius wrote: »
    It just annoys that a cert 18 seems to curb away from themes of sex and swearing (maybe a theme to Witcher success)

    Well, I'm guessing you've never been downstairs in the Ebony Flask in Ebonheart.

    *Scurries off to the Ebony Flask
  • Danikat
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    Tryxus wrote: »
    The Isle of Lusty Bards
    ...

    You just made that one up, didn't you?
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  • Tryxus
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    Danikat wrote: »
    Tryxus wrote: »
    The Isle of Lusty Bards
    ...

    You just made that one up, didn't you?

    "Don't be presumptuous, mortal, or I'll banish you to the Isle of Lusty Bards." - Sheogorath, 2E582
    Edited by Tryxus on June 14, 2017 11:22PM
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    isle of lusty bards DLC - just announced...Maybe...sometime
  • ArchMikem
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    "She *** the Men as cruelly as Bal had ravished her." Oh hey that's from the Lorebook about the first Vampire.

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