Thanks for the feedback Ill look it up and may give it a try. Although sustain may be an issue

No problem slotting Wrecking blow, i used to put Dizzying swing but trying brawler at the moment for the shield.

How to manage the sustain with such build though ? d/d ?

Any other advise or gear idea? is alchemist really worth it ?

Chilly-McFreeze wrote: »

I don't think brawler will get you far. The costs are same dizzying swing while you put out 1/3 of the initial damage. Since probably spam it, you wont make good use of the bleeding. Also if you need to have your opponents tightly stacked for the AoE.
The shield it grants is to small. My tooltip states 900ish per opponent hit. That's one tick of a dot, a light attack, one second in caltrops or hurricane.
At least it is an instant cast, I myself struggle a bit with the long build up of dizzying swing. But still I don't think it could be replaced by brawler. If that is the reason you prefer brawler, you mind want to think about switching to dw.

In the kena/ alchemist build you sustain via d/d. You've got the high damage output for only a few seconds. That is when you need to go all in, so only resources you need after that are for retreating to wait until you can proc clever alchemist again. At least that is what I would do with that set-up, hit and run.

On the other hand, if you like cheese, proc sets are hella strong, especially in no-cp.

Thanks for the feedback.

What proc sets would you advise ? selene? velidreth ?

Thanks one more question do you advise wrecking blow or dizzying swing?

@Morgul667

Depends on what else you run. If you've got no other hard CC, Dizzy is the way to go. Streak is no reliable CC since it get's you out of melee range. But if you run something like Reverb Bash you can go for wrecking blow.

@Morgul667

Okay, diversity. I can't exactly tell how good these will fare in Morrowind no-cp but it's a base you can alter to your needs.

If you want a tanky set-up, run 2x Troll King, 5x Knight's Errant/ Seventh Legion/ Fasalla's and, depending how you're doing, 5pc regen set (Bone pirates etc) or a proc set (viper, red mountain).
Health regen can't be gutted like heals. Viper procs reliable every 4 seconds on every melee but not on ranged weapon dmg. Red mountain CAN proc more frequent on every weapon ability, but not on everything melee (hurricane) + it hit's harder, especially on vamps. That said farming viper is easier.

If you want unsustained burst go with said 2x Kena 5x clever alchemist, 3x agility. If you choose medium over heavy you'll reach close to 6k weapon damage with everything procced.

If you want a DW DoT build go for 2x Skoria, 5x Alchemist, 5x Bone Pirates -> dmg too low? 3x agility, 2x leki instead of BP

If you want more cancer go for 2 x troll, 5x red mountain, way of fire on a health regen build, so no vamp. Heavy would suit the theme better but if you unconditionally want medium, again, viper.

Since you can hardly raise your crit dmg, but easily mitigate it via impen, you might want to trade thief mundus for something else like regen, stam or weapon dmg.

The reason why proc sets are insanely strong in no cp is that they dont scale with your dmg and resources. You can invest them elsewhere and still have high burst potential.

If you don't like farming bone pirates, try marksman. That doesn't come in any other weapon but bows, so you're a bit stinted.

Thier is no universal build for Bgs, id quick slot 3 builds for it.

Chilly-McFreeze wrote: »

@Morgul667

Okay, diversity. I can't exactly tell how good these will fare in Morrowind no-cp but it's a base you can alter to your needs.

If you want a tanky set-up, run 2x Troll King, 5x Knight's Errant/ Seventh Legion/ Fasalla's and, depending how you're doing, 5pc regen set (Bone pirates etc) or a proc set (viper, red mountain).
Health regen can't be gutted like heals. Viper procs reliable every 4 seconds on every melee but not on ranged weapon dmg. Red mountain CAN proc more frequent on every weapon ability, but not on everything melee (hurricane) + it hit's harder, especially on vamps. That said farming viper is easier.

If you want unsustained burst go with said 2x Kena 5x clever alchemist, 3x agility. If you choose medium over heavy you'll reach close to 6k weapon damage with everything procced.

If you want a DW DoT build go for 2x Skoria, 5x Alchemist, 5x Bone Pirates -> dmg too low? 3x agility, 2x leki instead of BP

If you want more cancer go for 2 x troll, 5x red mountain, way of fire on a health regen build, so no vamp. Heavy would suit the theme better but if you unconditionally want medium, again, viper.

Since you can hardly raise your crit dmg, but easily mitigate it via impen, you might want to trade thief mundus for something else like regen, stam or weapon dmg.

The reason why proc sets are insanely strong in no cp is that they dont scale with your dmg and resources. You can invest them elsewhere and still have high burst potential.

If you don't like farming bone pirates, try marksman. That doesn't come in any other weapon but bows, so you're a bit stinted.

@Chilly-McFreeze Do you advise to go heavy all the way or stay medium ? I enjoy medium mobility but find myself to lack tankyness

Thanks I appreciate your comment @murdomac101 . But im surprised Shacklebreaker is actually better then eternal hunt ?

Appreciated guys, will check it out. But how comes Shackle is better than stamina sets ? Surprising

I think im gonna try your build :-)

Starting to tink I should give heavy a try :-)

Morgul667 wrote: »

Appreciated guys, will check it out. But how comes Shackle is better than stamina sets ? Surprising

I think im gonna try your build :-)

Starting to tink I should give heavy a try :-)

Shackle breaker is just an all around solid set, providing regen and wpn damage and a good chunk of max stats including magicka which is very helpful for d/d and streak. Good to have around 12 or 13k magicka with a stam sorc.

Calling all remaining stamsorc

what do you run lately in openworlds or BG ?

I run selene + shacklebreaker in Heavy but cant decide what second set to run ?

Ok i need help on my next no cp bg build

Had a much harder time yesterday on my stamsorc compared to my mag toon.

Anyone could share a good build for no cp bg stamsorc?

Thanks for the reply I apprecaite it. I will try again the fortified brass but I was missing resources in no cp last time I used it

I run viper today but will test unfathomable once I get it (need to farm CWC)

I run vma 2h as I dont have asylum one

Morgul667 wrote: »

Thanks for the reply I apprecaite it. I will try again the fortified brass but I was missing resources in no cp last time I used it

I run viper today but will test unfathomable once I get it (need to farm CWC)

I run vma 2h as I dont have asylum one

U.D. is really cheap in the stores nowadays. I got my full set (jewls, SnB) for under 7.5k yesterday.

I saw sixty5's build and it seems really interesting. But there kicks in my old conflict between fortified and impregnable, although I think Impreg really shines in CP environments more.

On Impreg you loose out on 6.4k resistance
On Impreg you gain 500-1500 impen (from 41% on FB up to 60% on IA), 2.5k stam, 1.1k mag (both after modifiers) and 1-3 armor traits of your choice

I think Fortified is better but it's on you to make that trade off. However, Impreg gives you resources, which you said you struggle to get. I am a cheap ass that's low on mats and have Impreg already golded, so I go with that, even if it's not BiS.