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ESO+ Doesn't Feel Good to Own
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GrumpyDuckling✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭GrumpyDuckling wrote: »If that was your point, then perhaps it would have been to your benefit to mention it in your first post. Additionally, if that is indeed your point, then I don't think you're understanding the purpose of my first post.
hmmm, interesting. the sub gives bonuses, you don't feel its worth it, you ask for a feature everyone would like but only for subber's because you sub and feel you should get a specific bonus that's more useful to you then the current ones.
nope. I clearly don't understand at all, although now that you've brought it up maybe I should start asking for more bonuses then what subber's get (as I've paid more then I would have if I subbed from the day ESO was released) and I don't really "feel good" about that. the difference is I knew I was wasting my money, just because you don't "feel good" about wasting your money on subbing does not me ZOS should give you yet another bonus.
oh, and trying to make out I'm too stupid to understand your first post as some thinly veiled attempt to insult me......so mature, I'm out.
have a nice day
I'm sorry if you think I'm trying to make you out as too stupid to understand the first post, that was not my intent. Perhaps if you read my first post again, then you'll gain a better understanding of my purpose. Please also refer to your first post in the thread for conduct non-befitting maturity.0 -
Korah_Eaglecry✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭GrumpyDuckling wrote: »If that was your point, then perhaps it would have been to your benefit to mention it in your first post. Additionally, if that is indeed your point, then I don't think you're understanding the purpose of my first post.
hmmm, interesting. the sub gives bonuses, you don't feel its worth it, you ask for a feature everyone would like but only for subber's because you sub and feel you should get a specific bonus that's more useful to you then the current ones.
nope. I clearly don't understand at all, although now that you've brought it up maybe I should start asking for more bonuses then what subber's get (as I've paid more then I would have if I subbed from the day ESO was released) and I don't really "feel good" about that. the difference is I knew I was wasting my money, just because you don't "feel good" about wasting your money on subbing does not me ZOS should give you yet another bonus.
oh, and trying to make out I'm too stupid to understand your first post as some thinly veiled attempt to insult me......so mature, I'm out.
have a nice day
OMG Its almost as if a customer/consumer is actually providing feedback about what he would like to see added to a feature he pays for......SHOCKING! I know. Who comes on to a forums of a company to provide that company feedback? Arent we all just here to meaningless argue with each other? WTF is up with the OP AMIRITE?!?!?!?!Penniless Sellsword CompanyCaptain Paramount - Jorrhaq VhentKorith Eaglecry * Enrerion Aedihle * Laerinel Rhaev * Caius Berilius * Seylina Ithvala * H'Vak the GrimjawlTenarei Rhaev * Dazsh Ro Khar * Yynril Rothvani * Bathes-In-Coin * Anaelle Faerniil * Azjani Ma'LesAban Shahid Bakr * Kheshna gra-Gharbuk * Gallisten Bondurant * Etain Maquier * Atsu Kalame * Faulpia SeverinusWhat is better, to be born good, or to overcome your evil nature through great effort? - Paarthurnax2 -
TheeDopestDope wrote: »So all those who believe DLC is dead and chapters will be the only thing released in the future take a look at this article,
http://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/2017/02/01/welcome-to-2017
So yes DLC will continue to be released. Your sub will unlock it. You can even purchase it in the crown store with the 'useless' crowns you attain each month.
*drops mic*
I think you got a bit off topic and also failed to see historical fact in conflicting statements, made in the past about DLC's. People will continue to cling to every word an official makes, up until the point the customer is shafted. Even after that, there's a large portion of the community who gladly bends over and acts like Zeni can do no wrong.0 -
DeadlyRecluse✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Craft bag+double bank feel pretty great.
Granted, they are bandaid fixes to the terrible thing that is ESO inventory management, but still--if you play this game a significant amount, it's well worth it just for those.Thrice Empress, Forever Scrub1 -
Dixa✭✭✭✭Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »GrumpyDuckling wrote: »If that was your point, then perhaps it would have been to your benefit to mention it in your first post. Additionally, if that is indeed your point, then I don't think you're understanding the purpose of my first post.
hmmm, interesting. the sub gives bonuses, you don't feel its worth it, you ask for a feature everyone would like but only for subber's because you sub and feel you should get a specific bonus that's more useful to you then the current ones.
nope. I clearly don't understand at all, although now that you've brought it up maybe I should start asking for more bonuses then what subber's get (as I've paid more then I would have if I subbed from the day ESO was released) and I don't really "feel good" about that. the difference is I knew I was wasting my money, just because you don't "feel good" about wasting your money on subbing does not me ZOS should give you yet another bonus.
oh, and trying to make out I'm too stupid to understand your first post as some thinly veiled attempt to insult me......so mature, I'm out.
have a nice day
OMG Its almost as if a customer/consumer is actually providing feedback about what he would like to see added to a feature he pays for......SHOCKING! I know. Who comes on to a forums of a company to provide that company feedback? Arent we all just here to meaningless argue with each other? WTF is up with the OP AMIRITE?!?!?!?!
nothing wrong with consumer feedback, just as there is nothing wrong with that feedback being ignored given how the other sub options in the genre's market work by comparison.0 -
Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »GrumpyDuckling wrote: »If that was your point, then perhaps it would have been to your benefit to mention it in your first post. Additionally, if that is indeed your point, then I don't think you're understanding the purpose of my first post.
hmmm, interesting. the sub gives bonuses, you don't feel its worth it, you ask for a feature everyone would like but only for subber's because you sub and feel you should get a specific bonus that's more useful to you then the current ones.
nope. I clearly don't understand at all, although now that you've brought it up maybe I should start asking for more bonuses then what subber's get (as I've paid more then I would have if I subbed from the day ESO was released) and I don't really "feel good" about that. the difference is I knew I was wasting my money, just because you don't "feel good" about wasting your money on subbing does not me ZOS should give you yet another bonus.
oh, and trying to make out I'm too stupid to understand your first post as some thinly veiled attempt to insult me......so mature, I'm out.
have a nice day
OMG Its almost as if a customer/consumer is actually providing feedback about what he would like to see added to a feature he pays for......SHOCKING! I know. Who comes on to a forums of a company to provide that company feedback? Arent we all just here to meaningless argue with each other? WTF is up with the OP AMIRITE?!?!?!?!
nothing wrong with consumer feedback, just as there is nothing wrong with that feedback being ignored given how the other sub options in the genre's market work by comparison.
No one is throwing out expectations just because that's what Blizzard or any other company does. You feed the bears, you deal with the consequences when you've run out of pic-a-nic baskets. What was it parents used to say? "That's nice dear, but you're not Timmy and I'm not Timmy's dad".
Meh, basically it doesn't matter what another company does in comparison, that's not our issue if they can't keep up with competition and they'll see the error of their ways eventually.1 -
skyhawk002✭✭✭As a B2P and non ESO + subscriber, I am content with the gap between regular players who buy crowns and ESO+ members. If anything, I think ESO+ should be further incentivized. But so far, IMHO gj Zos0 -
GrumpyDuckling✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭notimetocare wrote: »If $15 a month feels like too much for nothing, get a better job
Excellent advice, but I think you're missing the point.0 -
Sallington✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭God bless you if you can play this game without the crafting bag.Edited by Sallington on June 12, 2017 4:12PMDaggerfall Covenant
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disintegr8✭✭✭✭✭
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Sorry, but I have not 'compared' this games subscription model to anything, so do not need a frame of reference.disintegr8 wrote: »
I never said I had done everything and only log on to craft, merely that the only ongoing benefit I feel I am getting from my sub is the craft bag. When I started subbing I had already bought Orsinium and IC DLC's, was beyond CP cap and already had a 9 trait crafter.disintegr8 wrote: »GrumpyDuckling wrote: »I'm not saying ESO+ is supposed to "feel good" to own, but for a total of $180 a year, I'd like to feel a little bit better about my $15 monthly subscription.
To me, the monthly crowns are pretty pointless (I don't care much for aesthetic crown store things), and the new chapter approach is independent of ESO+, which means I'm pretty much paying for bag space (translation: to be less annoyed while playing the game, because I'm still having to manage bag space all the time).
Would it be awful to give ESO+ subscribers unlimited bag space, like the crafting bag but with regular items? That would at least feel more worthy of a $15 monthly description.
seriously?' you get crowns, increased xp, better research times, access to all dlc's, the ability to dye costumes(which every should be able to do
), the craft bag, double bank space( which should of only been say 50 space upgrade)....ect and you still want more.
pahahahahahah, you're even greedier the ZOS
FYI:
Crowns - for those of us that don't go in for shiney objects from the crown store are pretty much useless. I consider the crowns I get for subbing as a free gift from ESO that I do not spend.
really? that 1500 gets you 10 mount upgrades and quite a few xp scrolls per month as just one example. lol. or repair crates. or whatever.Increased XP - fine while leveling but when you are way over CP cap and all maxed characters, is pretty useless.
there are very few players at that level even todaySped up research times - not necessary once you have completed research.
but helpful until you do which takes a few monthsAccess to DLC's - fine if you like them, I have barely started TG or DB as they do not interest me.
lucky for you there are more than two dlc's then.
you would prefer they also limit the number of abilities you can have on your bar, similiar to stwor's f2p model?Costume dying - same response that applies to crowns - nice if you like it. I have dyed nothing since my first character reached about level 40.If I was not a crafter I would not be subbing, as before last week the only ongoing benefit I got was the craft bag. I think ESO+ has a lot of benefits if you are starting out but needs something added to keep up with player progression.
it doesn't need anymore. name me any other mmorpg with an f2p model where their optional sub gives you MORE than this.
honestly if you are at the point where you have done everything, gotten all you want and just log into craft this is more of a case for you to move onto another mmorpg than one of sub value.
This is the only MMO that I have ever played, so asking me to compare benefits of other subs is a waste of time. You disagree with what I and other people think, as is your right, but don't read between the lines and presume to know us.
If this is your only mmorpg you have ever played then you have no frame of reference.
You may be burned out on this game. that happens to everyone in every mmorpg at one point. You should consider playing another one for a while until the itch to play ESO returns.
If you feel like you are obligated, you HAVE to log in every day then the game is no longer a game.
My original point was simply to say that not everything you get for subbing appeals to everyone, and some of the ESO+ subscription perks are no longer relevant if you are at what is commonly referred to as "End Game" content; i.e. have leveled up your characters, completed trait research and reached CP cap. Therefore some ESO+ benefits targeted for those who fall into this category would be nice.
I don't think I am out of line in voicing this opinion just because I have not played any other MMO's.
And no, I do not log on and play for 30-40 hours a week out of a sense of obligation.Australian on PS4 NA server.
Everyone's entitled to an opinion.0 -
Axoinus✭✭✭✭✭Well, technically you don't own the game at all. You are just leasing it.
So, working as intended.0
