I have ESO plus why does it still charge me for Morrowind?

Valn · June 2017

Is this a bug on the website or something? When I go in game I can't access it either, it still says I have to purchase it?

I have ESO plus so why am I not able to access the DLC?

Merlin13KAGL · June 2017

It's not listed as a DLC. It's listed as a "Chapter."

If you want access, you'll have to purchase it separately.

Sallington · June 2017

Chapters: not free with ESO+

DLC: Free with ESO+

We are at the mercy of which name ZOS chooses to describe the new content.

khele23eb17_ESO · June 2017

Because they called it a 'chapter', not a 'DLC'.

Jarikku · June 2017

Because it's not a DLC. It is an expansion and therefore not cover by plus membership nor is it purchasable with in-game gold.

drallar · June 2017

Morrowind is labelled as a new Chapter and must be purchased. ESO+ membership does not entitle you to the product. It was announced many months ago and has been all over the boards since.

Tons of threads on whether it should be a DLC and covered by an ESO+ subscription but I am not interested in having that discussion again.

Valn · June 2017

Jarikku wrote: »

Because it's not a DLC. It is an expansion and therefore not cover by plus membership nor is it purchasable with in-game gold.

Thanks, I'll just wait until it's free.

Merlin13KAGL · June 2017

Never setting foot in Morrowind, aye.

Cpt_Teemo · June 2017

Valn wrote: »

Jarikku wrote: »

Because it's not a DLC. It is an expansion and therefore not cover by plus membership nor is it purchasable with in-game gold.

Thanks, I'll just wait until it's free.

If they follow what WoW does then it'll be ESO+ next year

Jarikku · June 2017

Valn wrote: »

Jarikku wrote: »

Because it's not a DLC. It is an expansion and therefore not cover by plus membership nor is it purchasable with in-game gold.

Thanks, I'll just wait until it's free.

Could be a long wait, I don't think it will ever be free

Absolut_Turkey · June 2017

Valn wrote: »

Jarikku wrote: »

Because it's not a DLC. It is an expansion and therefore not cover by plus membership nor is it purchasable with in-game gold.

Thanks, I'll just wait until it's free.

See you in a few years then.

roglog · June 2017

Valn wrote: »

Jarikku wrote: »

Because it's not a DLC. It is an expansion and therefore not cover by plus membership nor is it purchasable with in-game gold.

Thanks, I'll just wait until it's free.

It's the way the game is sold now, might never be free. Maybe when the next chapter comes, previous chapters might be included, but then again at that point you'll have to buy the new one to get the old one.

DMuehlhausen · June 2017

Valn wrote: »

Jarikku wrote: »

Because it's not a DLC. It is an expansion and therefore not cover by plus membership nor is it purchasable with in-game gold.

Thanks, I'll just wait until it's free.

Probably not going to happen. More likely it will be bundled with next years chapter and you will get access to, New Chapter, Morrowind, and Base game.

Pallmor · June 2017

Valn wrote: »

Jarikku wrote: »

Because it's not a DLC. It is an expansion and therefore not cover by plus membership nor is it purchasable with in-game gold.

Thanks, I'll just wait until it's free.

Well, good luck with that.

Elsonso · June 2017

Well, if they do something like "Annals" and those are bundles of Chapters, it should be possible to get it with other Chapters at a discount. A few years from now?

But, to be more clear. It is not a Chapter when ZOS decides it is a Chapter. Nothing so unpredictable. We get a Chapter once per year, and ESO Plus/Crown Store DLC three times per year. Or so the plan goes. While it could be less than that, it should never be more than that.

Rhoric · June 2017

Valn wrote: »

Is this a bug on the website or something? When I go in game I can't access it either, it still says I have to purchase it?

I have ESO plus so why am I not able to access the DLC?

Cause Morrowind is an expansion and everyone has to pay for it whether you have ESO+ or not cause Morrowind is Not a DLC.

pod88kk · June 2017

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=D_XI_290cfw

sadownik · June 2017

@Rhoric stop constantly lying about it, according to both developer and publisher its "chapter" not expansion.

Sigtric · June 2017

Valn wrote: »

Jarikku wrote: »

Because it's not a DLC. It is an expansion and therefore not cover by plus membership nor is it purchasable with in-game gold.

Thanks, I'll just wait until it's free.

Don't hold your breath.

Rhoric · June 2017

sadownik wrote: »

@Rhoric stop constantly lying about it, according to both developer and publisher its "chapter" not expansion.

Wrong wrong wrong. Chapter, expansion, chapter, expansion is the same thing.

sadownik · June 2017

@Rhoric im sorry got any source to back it? Or is it just your opinion?

Rhoric · June 2017

It has been said over and over since it was announced that as a Chapter it is an expansion.

It is all over these forums that it is an expansion.

NewBlacksmurf · June 2017

Rhoric wrote: »

It has been said over and over since it was announced that as a Chapter it is an expansion.

It is all over these forums that it is an expansion.

But it's not an expansion. It literally doesn't expand anything from the existing game.

There's a new class which requires that you create a brand new character. (And gives no extra slot)

New areas outside of the existing areas
New trial in Morrowind
New Battleground in Morrowind
New story not linked to the existing story.
...

What was expanded upon?

Rhoric · June 2017

You guys really don't understand what an expansion is. It does so expand the game. But I am done trying to educate you people on what an expansion is. I am going back to play the Morrowind Expansion that was released.

Mazbt · June 2017

Valn u being sarcastic or do you live under a rock?

BigBragg · June 2017

Doesn't expand the game? It sure expanded the room taken up on my drive.

Sigtric · June 2017

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Rhoric wrote: »

It has been said over and over since it was announced that as a Chapter it is an expansion.

It is all over these forums that it is an expansion.

But it's not an expansion. It literally doesn't expand anything from the existing game.

There's a new class which requires that you create a brand new character. (And gives no extra slot)

New areas outside of the existing areas
New trial in Morrowind
New Battleground in Morrowind
New story not linked to the existing story.
...

What was expanded upon?

It has literally expanded:
The land mass
The number of achievements available
The number of quests available
The number of collectibles available to earn in game
The number of delves
The number of public dungeons
The number of trials
The number of available classes
The number of different types of pvp available
The number of idiotic posts on the forums

Expanding the existing game only doesn't really make sense in terms of MMO expansions. They traditionally add more zones, classes, game modes, and stories.

Elsonso · June 2017

Rhoric wrote: »

You guys really don't understand what an expansion is. It does so expand the game. But I am done trying to educate you people on what an expansion is. I am going back to play the Morrowind Expansion that was released.

@Rhoric From what I remember, they don't call it an expansion because that term implies things that the Chapter does not deliver. It does not build upon the main story. It does not bump the max character level. It is not as large as a typical expansion. You are free to call it an expansion, just like there are people who call it a DLC.

Me? I call it a new version of the game because they bolted on a new introduction story in front of the existing one.

idk · June 2017

Valn wrote: »

Jarikku wrote: »

Because it's not a DLC. It is an expansion and therefore not cover by plus membership nor is it purchasable with in-game gold.

Thanks, I'll just wait until it's free.

@Valn probably be a very long wait. If your wanting to play it in the next couple years might just want to wait for a price drop/sale in a few months. Otherwise give up on playing the bulk of added content since this chapter once a year will have most of what's added.

But the 2 DLCs each you still come with ESO+.

kunquatb16_ESO · June 2017

Sigtric wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Rhoric wrote: »

It has been said over and over since it was announced that as a Chapter it is an expansion.

It is all over these forums that it is an expansion.

But it's not an expansion. It literally doesn't expand anything from the existing game.

There's a new class which requires that you create a brand new character. (And gives no extra slot)

New areas outside of the existing areas
New trial in Morrowind
New Battleground in Morrowind
New story not linked to the existing story.
...

What was expanded upon?

It has literally expanded:
The land mass
The number of achievements available
The number of quests available
The number of collectibles available to earn in game
The number of delves
The number of public dungeons
The number of trials
The number of available classes
The number of different types of pvp available
The number of idiotic posts on the forums

Expanding the existing game only doesn't really make sense in terms of MMO expansions. They traditionally add more zones, classes, game modes, and stories.

By that definition Orsinium and imperial city were also an expansions they: literally expanded:
The land mass
The number of achievements available
The number of quests available
The number of collectibles available to earn in game
The number of delves
The number of public dungeons
The number of trials
The number of different types of pvp available
The number of idiotic posts on the forums

but are included in ESO+... so are ESO+ literally just paying for 1 new class over and above what previous DLCs have added?

Sigtric · June 2017

kunquatb16_ESO wrote: »

Sigtric wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Rhoric wrote: »

It has been said over and over since it was announced that as a Chapter it is an expansion.

It is all over these forums that it is an expansion.

But it's not an expansion. It literally doesn't expand anything from the existing game.

There's a new class which requires that you create a brand new character. (And gives no extra slot)

New areas outside of the existing areas
New trial in Morrowind
New Battleground in Morrowind
New story not linked to the existing story.
...

What was expanded upon?

It has literally expanded:
The land mass
The number of achievements available
The number of quests available
The number of collectibles available to earn in game
The number of delves
The number of public dungeons
The number of trials
The number of available classes
The number of different types of pvp available
The number of idiotic posts on the forums

Expanding the existing game only doesn't really make sense in terms of MMO expansions. They traditionally add more zones, classes, game modes, and stories.

By that definition Orsinium and imperial city were also an expansions they:
It has literally expanded:
The land mass
The number of achievements available
The number of quests available
The number of collectibles available to earn in game
The number of delves
The number of public dungeons
The number of trials
The number of different types of pvp available
The number of idiotic posts on the forums

but are included in ESO+... so are ESO+ literally just paying for 1 new class over and above what previous DLCs have added?

I'm not arguing one way or another about what ZOS/players are classifying as an expansion versus a chapter versus a DLC.

I was simply pointing out that he was *literally* incorrect.