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Iccotak✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Latest DLC pictures released proving my point again.
Look at the detail on this Armor set.
And these Wonderfully sculpted rocks. This is what the rest of the Vanilla game Needs
Look at the realistically proportioned and non-cartoonish architecture!3 -
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✭✭✭✭Also didn't they say that through "Creation Club" that Bethesda will be making content for Skyrim again?0 -
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Yep but this time they are making it work so they'll have to approve of every single mod before it can even be given that privilege.Also didn't they say that through "Creation Club" that Bethesda will be making content for Skyrim again?
It's still going to be a disaster when it launches though. They'll be getting so many "this guy stole X mod" and "this guy just ripped out this asset X thing and called it their own!" and last but not least "THIS IS JUST A HUD COLOR CHANGE!". And boy of Boy, I can't wait to watch that train wreck happen
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Zalicius✭✭✭That was pretty terrible not gonna lie.
Yeah, was disappointing. Especially the VR remake, VR remake, mod money-grab scheme, and snoozefest 2017.
Although, Wolfenstein II looks somewhat promising, as did the Evil Within II depending on whether they are open world games or not.
Hey, at least we have Cyberpunk 2077 to look forward to in the next decade. HAEdited by Zalicius on June 12, 2017 6:11AM0 -
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✭Disappointing. Only thing remotely interesting to me was the Fallout/Skyrim VR stuff, and they didn't really address how they were going to handle VR movement in those games (though they did show "teleporting" in the first game they showed). Movement is the really tricky part in VR games (and what can make you sick if it's not done right).0 -
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✭Disappointing. Only thing remotely interesting to me was the Fallout/Skyrim VR stuff, and they didn't really address how they were going to handle VR movement in those games (though they did show "teleporting" in the first game they showed). Movement is the really tricky part in VR games (and what can make you sick if it's not done right).
It's probably going to be awful between movement and graphical issues. Don't get me wrong I love Bethesda games but their controls are bit clunky and dated... Skyrim melee in VR would be akin to riding a roller coaster with the camera bobbing up and down with every swing.
As for graphics Boston already lags the heck out of FO4 basically no matter what you play on - I'm not sure VR is up to the standards yet... I'm sure low FPS gameplay in VR can be quite nauseating as well..
Don't have high hopes for that - there's a big push for VR going on in the industry, but I don't think VR is ready yet - and I don't think the majority of gamers are quite ready yet either."You must defeat me every time. I need defeat you only once"1 -
snakester320✭✭✭✭Honestly getting annoyed at bethesda seriously its getting to Star Wars new hope then director cut then 3D version then added special effects .. they keep spitting out the same crap Sh.tting on there customers ...
now let's spit out old games that we did years ago but this time in VR..
how many versions of skyrim and fallout 4 are we going to get before they pull there finger out of there arse and make a new game like elder scrolls 6...
Is this the norm for this company now screw more money out of obsolete decade old games and call it progress?
Skyrim was awesome game only reason ppl now throw stupid money at eso keeping them afloat!!
Fallout 4 great game as well but seriously it's over move on!Edited by snakester320 on June 12, 2017 3:34PM0 -
Goshua✭✭✭✭You could almost feel the anti climatic cloud spread world wide when TES6 wasn't a surprise announcement.0
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✭✭✭✭✭Nemesis7884 wrote: »Publius_Scipio wrote: »Nemesis7884 wrote: »jesus what was that? Pete Hines said it was gonna be the best e3 ever for bethesda...new ip's? biggest projects ever? open world games? tes vi?
sorry bethesda, this was the worst of all presentations so far and the others were bad too...the e3 this year is just in one word "meh"
I agree with the Bethesda presentation. As far as all of E3, I'd say Microsoft had a very strong show this year with the Xbox One X and the titles shown.
well strong in comparison...they had to go all out but i wasn't floored or anything... and bethesda approaching the paid mods again...i don't know how i feel about that...as a pc player not too good...maybe good for consoles i don't know
Honestly, as a modder? Pretty good.
I fully expect to get set on fire over this, but, here's the thing: As a modder, there is no way to make a living at this.I know, I know, we're, "supposed to do this because we love it." Yeah, that's great. Unfortunately I can't pay my rent with, "love of the hobby."
I know, I know, I can just, "put up a Patreon..." except, you know, I can't. Because, I'm not allowed to produce content commercially with the tools provided. Does Patreon transform the threshold of my mods into a commercial product? I don't know. I certainly don't have the money to fight Bethesda's lawyers if they come knocking. And, we're talking about a company that protects it's IPs very aggressively. So, I really don't want to find out the hard way when I get put on the street by them.
More than that, Patreon is a wonderful system. If you get lucky, and get people's attention with it. But, most people simply don't contribute. When it comes to the community, it's a wonderful way to kick the can down the road and say, "well, I won't, but I'm sure someone will give this person some cash for their work." Personal experience? No, they really won't. Not for 98% of the community.
Now, it would be dishonest of me to say that that everyone behaved in an ethical way when this was introduced. We had a paid mod that used other people's work. We had one where they inserted an ad for the paid version into the free version of the mod.
At the same time, if you want to provide the resources to modders to produce professional quality content, this is what it's going to take. And the community's collective tantrum over paid mods sent a very clear message to us. Or at least to me, and some of the other modders I've interacted with. They told us, "we love you work, we think it's absolutely vital to the games being enjoyable, but if you think you should be able to actually eat, you're just greedy." Which, seriously put me off of the Nexus's mod consuming community.
I know, Bethesda gets a cut. Hilariously, the actual cut was stupidly good for the modders. If you want to publish a book, you would not be able to get a royalty rate nearly that good, without having to market your product from scratch via self-publishing. But, no, the idea that modders, even just some modders, produce quality work worth actually paying them for... no, that was just, "greed."
Ugh.Edited by starkerealm on June 12, 2017 10:13AM1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Am i the only one who thinks the xbox one x name wasnt well thought out, its literally the xox or hugs and kisses console now
XBOX, is the full acronym actually... lolCP2,100 Master Explorer - AvA Two Star Warlord - Console Peasant - Khajiiti Aficionado - The Clan
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Zalicius✭✭✭starkerealm wrote: »Nemesis7884 wrote: »Publius_Scipio wrote: »Nemesis7884 wrote: »jesus what was that? Pete Hines said it was gonna be the best e3 ever for bethesda...new ip's? biggest projects ever? open world games? tes vi?
sorry bethesda, this was the worst of all presentations so far and the others were bad too...the e3 this year is just in one word "meh"
I agree with the Bethesda presentation. As far as all of E3, I'd say Microsoft had a very strong show this year with the Xbox One X and the titles shown.
well strong in comparison...they had to go all out but i wasn't floored or anything... and bethesda approaching the paid mods again...i don't know how i feel about that...as a pc player not too good...maybe good for consoles i don't know
Honestly, as a modder? Pretty good.
I fully expect to get set on fire over this, but, here's the thing: As a modder, there is no way to make a living at this.I know, I know, we're, "supposed to do this because we love it." Yeah, that's great. Unfortunately I can't pay my rent with, "love of the hobby."
I know, I know, I can just, "put up a Patreon..." except, you know, I can't. Because, I'm not allowed to produce content commercially with the tools provided. Does Patreon transform the threshold of my mods into a commercial product? I don't know. I certainly don't have the money to fight Bethesda's lawyers if they come knocking. And, we're talking about a company that protects it's IPs very aggressively. So, I really don't want to find out the hard way when I get put on the street by them.
More than that, Patreon is a wonderful system. If you get lucky, and get people's attention with it. But, most people simply don't contribute. When it comes to the community, it's a wonderful way to kick the can down the road and say, "well, I won't, but I'm sure someone will give this person some cash for their work." Personal experience? No, they really won't. Not for 98% of the community.
Now, it would be dishonest of me to say that that everyone behaved in an ethical way when this was introduced. We had a paid mod that used other people's work. We had one where they inserted an ad for the paid version into the free version of the mod.
At the same time, if you want to provide the resources to modders to produce professional quality content, this is what it's going to take. And the community's collective tantrum over paid mods sent a very clear message to us. Or at least to me, and some of the other modders I've interacted with. They told us, "we love you work, we think it's absolutely vital to the games being enjoyable, but if you think you should be able to actually eat, you're just greedy." Which, seriously put me off of the Nexus's mod consuming community.
I know, Bethesda gets a cut. Hilariously, the actual cut was stupidly good for the modders. If you want to publish a book, you would not be able to get a royalty rate nearly that good, without having to market your product from scratch via self-publishing. But, no, the idea that modders, even just some modders, produce quality work worth actually paying them for... no, that was just, "greed."
Ugh.
That's great and all, but do you know why I downloaded mods? Because it added minor changes to a game that I had already put 800 hours into. So I could maybe put a few more dozen hours in because it made it a bit different, and because it was free. Will I do that with paid mods. Definitely not. They are changing something that has basically been a hobby, hell a tradition, that has been going on for 15 years into a business. Sure it may be great for people that want to make a living at it, but what about the many people that just did it as a hobby just because they loved modding. Honestly, I never thought mods were vital to the game. It was just something cool to add a bit more flavor, and although I've donated to mod sites(Nexus). I only did it because it was free. They are making it very clear that "for the love of the game" is now "for the love of the money" and that is disappointing.
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✭✭✭✭✭Here's another screenshot. Really liking those antlers.
Alandrol Sul: He's making another Numidium?!?
Vivec: Worse, buddy. They're buying it.1 -
vyndral13preub18_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭starkerealm wrote: »Nemesis7884 wrote: »Publius_Scipio wrote: »Nemesis7884 wrote: »jesus what was that? Pete Hines said it was gonna be the best e3 ever for bethesda...new ip's? biggest projects ever? open world games? tes vi?
sorry bethesda, this was the worst of all presentations so far and the others were bad too...the e3 this year is just in one word "meh"
I agree with the Bethesda presentation. As far as all of E3, I'd say Microsoft had a very strong show this year with the Xbox One X and the titles shown.
well strong in comparison...they had to go all out but i wasn't floored or anything... and bethesda approaching the paid mods again...i don't know how i feel about that...as a pc player not too good...maybe good for consoles i don't know
Honestly, as a modder? Pretty good.
I fully expect to get set on fire over this, but, here's the thing: As a modder, there is no way to make a living at this.I know, I know, we're, "supposed to do this because we love it." Yeah, that's great. Unfortunately I can't pay my rent with, "love of the hobby."
I know, I know, I can just, "put up a Patreon..." except, you know, I can't. Because, I'm not allowed to produce content commercially with the tools provided. Does Patreon transform the threshold of my mods into a commercial product? I don't know. I certainly don't have the money to fight Bethesda's lawyers if they come knocking. And, we're talking about a company that protects it's IPs very aggressively. So, I really don't want to find out the hard way when I get put on the street by them.
More than that, Patreon is a wonderful system. If you get lucky, and get people's attention with it. But, most people simply don't contribute. When it comes to the community, it's a wonderful way to kick the can down the road and say, "well, I won't, but I'm sure someone will give this person some cash for their work." Personal experience? No, they really won't. Not for 98% of the community.
Now, it would be dishonest of me to say that that everyone behaved in an ethical way when this was introduced. We had a paid mod that used other people's work. We had one where they inserted an ad for the paid version into the free version of the mod.
At the same time, if you want to provide the resources to modders to produce professional quality content, this is what it's going to take. And the community's collective tantrum over paid mods sent a very clear message to us. Or at least to me, and some of the other modders I've interacted with. They told us, "we love you work, we think it's absolutely vital to the games being enjoyable, but if you think you should be able to actually eat, you're just greedy." Which, seriously put me off of the Nexus's mod consuming community.
I know, Bethesda gets a cut. Hilariously, the actual cut was stupidly good for the modders. If you want to publish a book, you would not be able to get a royalty rate nearly that good, without having to market your product from scratch via self-publishing. But, no, the idea that modders, even just some modders, produce quality work worth actually paying them for... no, that was just, "greed."
Ugh.
That's great and all, but do you know why I downloaded mods? Because it added minor changes to a game that I had already put 800 hours into. So I could maybe put a few more dozen hours in because it made it a bit different, and because it was free. Will I do that with paid mods. Definitely not. They are changing something that has basically been a hobby, hell a tradition, that has been going on for 15 years into a business. Sure it may be great for people that want to make a living at it, but what about the many people that just did it as a hobby just because they loved modding. Honestly, I never thought mods were vital to the game. It was just something cool to add a bit more flavor, and although I've donated to mod sites(Nexus). I only did it because it was free. They are making it very clear that "for the love of the game" is now "for the love of the money" and that is disappointing.
At least game companies would never take out something/or fail to put something into a game, knowing they could make money off of the customer later for it. Im glad things like that never happen.....0 -
RinaldoGandolphi✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Latest DLC pictures released proving my point again.
Look at the detail on this Armor set.
And these Wonderfully sculpted rocks. This is what the rest of the Vanilla game Needs
Look at the realistically proportioned and non-cartoonish architecture!
Actually, those pictures show how dated the game engine is. Nearly obsolete already from technology standards.
Here is a picture from Crysis 3 and the CryEngine from back in 2013. Its pretty bad when a game engine from 2013 looks way better. Don't give me "its an MMO " Look at Black Desert and the upcoming Ashes of Creation they all blow ESO out of the water graphically speaking by a very large margin. Put ESO down and play a modern Trriple a title release in 2016 or 2017 and you will se how dated ESO actually is.
Rinaldo Gandolphi-Breton Sorcerer Daggerfall Covenant
Juste Gandolphi Dark Elf Templar Daggerfall Covenant
Richter Gandolphi - Dark Elf Dragonknight Daggerfall Covenant
Mathias Gandolphi - Breton Nightblade Daggerfall Covenant
RinaldoGandolphi - High Elf Sorcerer Aldmeri Dominion
Officer Fire and Ice
Co-GM - MVP
Sorcerer's - The ONLY class in the game that is punished for using its class defining skill (Bolt Escape)
"Here in his shrine, that they have forgotten. Here do we toil, that we might remember. By night we reclaim, what by day was stolen. Far from ourselves, he grows ever near to us. Our eyes once were blinded, now through him do we see. Our hands once were idle, now through them does he speak. And when the world shall listen, and when the world shall see, and when the world remembers, that world will cease to be. - Miraak2 -
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✭✭✭✭You honestly think Black Desert Online looks better? Some of the world assests are laughably bad. Go look at the grapes on a vine and compare them to the ones in ESO. The character creator is good, but when loaded in game it gets reduces by a ton to minimise impact on the world and has a number of flaws in the mapping on them.1 -
Zalicius✭✭✭Aside from the characters BDO does not look better at all. Sure the characters have boobie physics and look nice, but the word isn't that great at all. there's like no dungeons.. ehhh0
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✭✭A remastered Oblivion game, I'd pay for that! If only.Your immersion is breaking my entitlement. Buff Sorc's. Darkshroud the cremator Death by furRubeus BlackFluffy knight BladesThe Fat PantherPsijic Fungal SausageFlesheater the VileCaspian Rafferty FernsbyArchfiend Warlock PiersThe Black BishopEvil Wizard Lizard (EU)Neberra Vestige Fajeon (EU)Salanis Deathstick (EU)Blood Mage Alchemist (EU)1 -
Vanthras79✭✭✭✭✭A remastered Oblivion game, I'd pay for that! If only.
Speaking of...
any news of the Skyblivion Mod?
We must find Kyle..Norion Germain - Telvanni Wizard, Covenant Battle Mage, Mage's Guild Magister, Resident of Daggerfall Overlook, Lord of Tel Galen, Psijic Monk, Antiquarian, Breton Scholar, and Traveler.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Just gonna leave this article here.
https://bethesda.net/en/article/Q4uYy517UaosSsAicOiUA/eso-morrowind-new-dlc-announced?utm_medium=bitly&utm_source=SocialMedia
Horns of the Reach is a 2 new Group Dungeons DLC, just like Shadows of the Hist. Also there's a free Game Update to go with it as well.
Clockwork City is a legit story quest DLC advertising 10 hours of gameplay.CP2,100 Master Explorer - AvA Two Star Warlord - Console Peasant - Khajiiti Aficionado - The Clan
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Paulington✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭The event itself was fantastic, had a lot of fun at Besthesdaland.
However, I don't plan on buying Skyrim again for my Switch, I have a ton of mods on the PC and wouldn't be able to take that with me, not all that fun, a bit bored of seeing Skyrim milked until it's beyond dry.
At any rate, the new DLCs look fantastic, two new dungeons with possibly great monster masks and new content in the form of Clockwork City is just grand. Do I wish we saw more? Sure. But it seems ESO has plenty of cool stuff coming in the pipeline to keep us busy.0 -
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✭✭✭✭Just gonna leave this article here.
https://bethesda.net/en/article/Q4uYy517UaosSsAicOiUA/eso-morrowind-new-dlc-announced?utm_medium=bitly&utm_source=SocialMedia
Horns of the Reach is a 2 new Group Dungeons DLC, just like Shadows of the Hist. Also there's a free Game Update to go with it as well.
Clockwork City is a legit story quest DLC advertising 10 hours of gameplay.
I do like the free base game update that has almost nothing free in it.1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭vyndral13preub18_ESO wrote: »Just gonna leave this article here.
https://bethesda.net/en/article/Q4uYy517UaosSsAicOiUA/eso-morrowind-new-dlc-announced?utm_medium=bitly&utm_source=SocialMedia
Horns of the Reach is a 2 new Group Dungeons DLC, just like Shadows of the Hist. Also there's a free Game Update to go with it as well.
Clockwork City is a legit story quest DLC advertising 10 hours of gameplay.
I do like the free base game update that has almost nothing free in it.
Was thinking about that. If you are going to say that Battleground updates are not "free" because you paid for Morrowind, keep in mind that none of the updates are "free" because you (should have) paid for ESO, in the first place.XBox EU/NA:@ElsonsoJannus
PC NA/EU: @Elsonso
PSN NA/EU: @ElsonsoJannus
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✭✭✭✭lordrichter wrote: »vyndral13preub18_ESO wrote: »Just gonna leave this article here.
https://bethesda.net/en/article/Q4uYy517UaosSsAicOiUA/eso-morrowind-new-dlc-announced?utm_medium=bitly&utm_source=SocialMedia
Horns of the Reach is a 2 new Group Dungeons DLC, just like Shadows of the Hist. Also there's a free Game Update to go with it as well.
Clockwork City is a legit story quest DLC advertising 10 hours of gameplay.
I do like the free base game update that has almost nothing free in it.
Was thinking about that. If you are going to say that Battleground updates are not "free" because you paid for Morrowind, keep in mind that none of the updates are "free" because you (should have) paid for ESO, in the first place.
But also after the BG stuff. It is A list of crown stuff. Cracks me up. MAJOR FREE!
How about fairly minor and mostly paid.
Atleast the holiday event should be freeEdited by vyndral13preub18_ESO on June 13, 2017 1:58AM0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Here's another screenshot. Really liking those antlers.
My Bosmer are looking forward to helping relieve these reachmen of their antlers....#FiteForYourRite Bosmer = Stealth
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